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brucethemanlee · 17 April 2019, 08:29 AM

Wanted to hear everyone's thought:

Will the NEW movement (26-330SC) in the 5711 transition its way down to the 5167 (and replace 324SC)?

I know that before this switch for the 5711, the 5711 and 5167 shared the same movement (324SC). Therefore, it would make logical sense (maybe?) that the 5167 will also get the 26-330SC.

However, it that were to happen wouldn't Patek have release their new 5168G-010 (green) with the new movement already in it? I see on Patek's website it has the 324SC movement for the new green Aquanaut. Perhaps all the "time-only" Aquanauts will keep it's 324SC movement

I don't know Patek well enough as to know how long things take to filter down. Or maybe they won't in order to differentiate the 5711 and 5167

s.m.b. · 17 April 2019, 09:14 AM

I am thinking they will eventually share the same movement.

jrs146 · 17 April 2019, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by s.m.b.

I am thinking they will eventually share the same movement.

I would agree. Eventually it will make its way down to the 5167.

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RHIII · 17 April 2019, 11:46 AM

No doubt Eventually.

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GreenLantern · 17 April 2019, 03:38 PM

What's the fundamental difference between the movements?

Flex368 · 17 April 2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

What's the fundamental difference between the movements?

Hacking.

GreenLantern · 17 April 2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex368

Hacking.

Ah, got it. Thank you for that. :)

jay_kay · 20 April 2019, 12:06 AM

Yeah I am certain that the new movement will eventually end up,in next years 5167's.

Calatrava r · 20 April 2019, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

What's the fundamental difference between the movements?

Also new movement has a new clutching system to allow for better manual winding. The older movement stays connected to the rotor so manual winding is not advised beyond 8 to 10 times just to get the movement running and over winding manually could damage the movement. The clutch separates so no more damage from manually winding.

AK797 · 20 April 2019, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Also new movement has a new clutching system to allow for better manual winding. The older movement stays connected to the rotor so manual winding is not advised beyond 8 to 10 times just to get the movement running and over winding manually could damage the movement. The clutch separates so no more damage from manually winding.

Ahmed. · 14 January 2020, 08:00 AM

I think the new movment it’s come to 5167 with 20% price same story for 5711

B01fan · 14 January 2020, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmed.

I think the new movment it’s come to 5167 with 20% price same story for 5711

That would probably deter flippers if the 5167 costs $26-27k with tax.

Russell996 · 14 January 2020, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahmed.

I think the new movment it’s come to 5167 with 20% price same story for 5711

There was no price change specific to when they introduced the new movement to the 5711

nevergiveup · 14 January 2020, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Also new movement has a new clutching system to allow for better manual winding. The older movement stays connected to the rotor so manual winding is not advised beyond 8 to 10 times just to get the movement running and over winding manually could damage the movement. The clutch separates so no more damage from manually winding.

Thank you for sharing that. I never knew why my manual said to wind it only 10 times yo get the movement moving on my 330cs !

Russell996 · 14 January 2020, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nevergiveup

Thank you for sharing that. I never knew why my manual said to wind it only 10 times yo get the movement moving on my 330cs !

To be fair, Patek still say exactly the same for the new movement - 10 winds to get the movement going.

Rushne · 14 January 2020, 10:16 PM

What? So you should not fully wind the watch using the crown? I just assumed that they would have a clutch as to not damage the movement when using the crown to wind.

Calatrava r · 15 January 2020, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rushne

What? So you should not fully wind the watch using the crown? I just assumed that they would have a clutch as to not damage the movement when using the crown to wind.

Not according to Patek and most other brands for that matter. Rolex recommends 20 winds only to get the watch going. Watches which have dual winding capacity, as some Grand Seikos have, usually tout that feature prominently in their instructions.

17 April 2019, 08:29 AM	#1
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,505	Will NEW movement in 5711 make it to 5167? Wanted to hear everyone's thought: Will the NEW movement (26-330SC) in the 5711 transition its way down to the 5167 (and replace 324SC)? I know that before this switch for the 5711, the 5711 and 5167 shared the same movement (324SC). Therefore, it would make logical sense (maybe?) that the 5167 will also get the 26-330SC. However, it that were to happen wouldn't Patek have release their new 5168G-010 (green) with the new movement already in it? I see on Patek's website it has the 324SC movement for the new green Aquanaut. Perhaps all the "time-only" Aquanauts will keep it's 324SC movement I don't know Patek well enough as to know how long things take to filter down. Or maybe they won't in order to differentiate the 5711 and 5167

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RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	No doubt Eventually. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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