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Old 24 July 2019, 12:15 AM   #4861
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I think itís gonna be a long wait if you donít start some sort of purchase history, and if you only want an 11-03, itís gonna be cheaper just to buy it grey.
Agreed. To start with an 11-03 is next to impossible, an 11-03 in NPTP is impossible, no matter the wait. You will need a significant purchase history and a history of not flipping sought after pieces.
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Old 24 July 2019, 01:21 AM   #4862
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Agreed. To start with an 11-03 is next to impossible, an 11-03 in NPTP is impossible, no matter the wait. You will need a significant purchase history and a history of not flipping sought after pieces.
The prices of NTPT pieces has blown my mind as of recent. Black NTPT is selling for more than gold!
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Old 26 July 2019, 12:39 PM   #4863
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Have any of you ordered a 67-02 from a US Boutique and gone through the whole process of full deposit and not getting to pick which color you get ? Any info on the process and whether this is plain dumb would be helpful. Thanks
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Old 26 July 2019, 11:13 PM   #4864
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The prices of NTPT pieces has blown my mind as of recent. Black NTPT is selling for more than gold!
MSRP on NTPT is higher than gold. It should sell for more.
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Old 27 July 2019, 01:48 AM   #4865
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Have any of you ordered a 67-02 from a US Boutique and gone through the whole process of full deposit and not getting to pick which color you get ? Any info on the process and whether this is plain dumb would be helpful. Thanks
That is the process. I was talking to my boutique about it yesterday. Surprisingly they were explaining that most clients haven't had an issue with it. Two clients have received their first choice and the third had not. They were saying that most are just happy to get one.

I certainly have an issue with it. There is a specific 67-02 that I want and I am not willing to pay for it and have a random one show up- especially when I already bought one grey. It's an extremely frustrating process, especially when you have a huge purchase history. I will keep you posted as to what happens and if I am able to actually order the one I want.

If I am not able to, I am just going to go grey. It's not worth the risk and the wait to "possibly" get what you want.
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Old 27 July 2019, 01:48 AM   #4866
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MSRP on NTPT is higher than gold. It should sell for more.

fair point- I never thought of it that way.
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Old 27 July 2019, 10:46 AM   #4867
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That is the process. I was talking to my boutique about it yesterday. Surprisingly they were explaining that most clients haven't had an issue with it. Two clients have received their first choice and the third had not. They were saying that most are just happy to get one.

I certainly have an issue with it. There is a specific 67-02 that I want and I am not willing to pay for it and have a random one show up- especially when I already bought one grey. It's an extremely frustrating process, especially when you have a huge purchase history. I will keep you posted as to what happens and if I am able to actually order the one I want.

If I am not able to, I am just going to go grey. It's not worth the risk and the wait to "possibly" get what you want.
I’m just jealous of your 11-03 lol :). If I get in spot for the 67-02. You can have my spot too. Double ur chances :)

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Old 27 July 2019, 11:07 AM   #4868
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Old 27 July 2019, 01:43 PM   #4869
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That is the process. I was talking to my boutique about it yesterday. Surprisingly they were explaining that most clients haven't had an issue with it. Two clients have received their first choice and the third had not. They were saying that most are just happy to get one.

I certainly have an issue with it. There is a specific 67-02 that I want and I am not willing to pay for it and have a random one show up- especially when I already bought one grey. It's an extremely frustrating process, especially when you have a huge purchase history. I will keep you posted as to what happens and if I am able to actually order the one I want.

If I am not able to, I am just going to go grey. It's not worth the risk and the wait to "possibly" get what you want.

Thanks... I find it pretty bananas. Iím still on the fence. Which 67-02 do you fancy, I think the Ogier is my easy first choice - but I sadly do secretly like the pink/red one. The upcoming 67 chrono kinda gives me pause about ordering one of these at full bore and going through this whole random process.

Curious - where are grey prices on these in reality ?
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Old 27 July 2019, 02:30 PM   #4870
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That is the process. I was talking to my boutique about it yesterday. Surprisingly they were explaining that most clients haven't had an issue with it. Two clients have received their first choice and the third had not. They were saying that most are just happy to get one.

I certainly have an issue with it. There is a specific 67-02 that I want and I am not willing to pay for it and have a random one show up- especially when I already bought one grey. It's an extremely frustrating process, especially when you have a huge purchase history. I will keep you posted as to what happens and if I am able to actually order the one I want.

If I am not able to, I am just going to go grey. It's not worth the risk and the wait to "possibly" get what you want.
Wouldnít the smart move be to get the 67-02 at retail, and if itís not the color you want flip it to a grey for the one you do?
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Old 27 July 2019, 07:16 PM   #4871
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Here is another shot of probably unique Le Clerc 67-02...
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Old 27 July 2019, 08:08 PM   #4872
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Wouldnít the smart move be to get the 67-02 at retail, and if itís not the color you want flip it to a grey for the one you do?
That assumes all variants are equally as desirable and thus command the same grey price. The grey dealer would also have to be nice and let you swap without paying his p&l (difference on trade in value and purchase price).
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Old 27 July 2019, 11:43 PM   #4873
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That assumes all variants are equally as desirable and thus command the same grey price. The grey dealer would also have to be nice and let you swap without paying his p&l (difference on trade in value and purchase price).
Agreed. I doubt it would be a straight swap but it seems like even the ugliest version is asking well above retail. Though, Iím curious are green 67-02s really selling to greys over retail?
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Old 28 July 2019, 01:10 AM   #4874
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Seeing that some go for 5k over retail and others 70k, swapping it just wont work. I have the Ogier already.
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Iím just jealous of your 11-03 lol :). If I get in spot for the 67-02. You can have my spot too. Double ur chances :)

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Old 28 July 2019, 02:58 AM   #4876
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So have I. Iím going to wait...

Bought a 029 yesterday. Hopefully pick up a 030 and a 67-02...and whatever else they let me pick up. Figure Iíll get to enjoy each one of these as we migrate into the brand
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Agreed. To start with an 11-03 is next to impossible, an 11-03 in NPTP is impossible, no matter the wait. You will need a significant purchase history and a history of not flipping sought after pieces.
Thanks for all the advice guys.

I wasn't too keen on buying less popular models to work my way up to more desirable models.

So I skipped the process, I went to see my preferred grey dealer and walked out with this:




Love it! Lots of wrist presence...and more people seem to recognise RMs compared to APs (go figure!)

Thanks again.
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Old 28 July 2019, 03:03 AM   #4877
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Old 28 July 2019, 04:02 AM   #4878
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Old 28 July 2019, 04:14 AM   #4879
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

I wasn't too keen on buying less popular models to work my way up to more desirable models.

So I skipped the process, I went to see my preferred grey dealer and walked out with this:




Love it! Lots of wrist presence...and more people seem to recognise RMs compared to APs (go figure!)

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Well done! Congrats n wear in good health
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Old 28 July 2019, 04:36 AM   #4880
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

I wasn't too keen on buying less popular models to work my way up to more desirable models.

So I skipped the process, I went to see my preferred grey dealer and walked out with this:




Love it! Lots of wrist presence...and more people seem to recognise RMs compared to APs (go figure!)

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Congrats man :) Looks wonderful
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Old 28 July 2019, 04:37 AM   #4881
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Later tonight buddy, havenít even picked it up yet. Lol
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Old 28 July 2019, 08:08 AM   #4882
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Incoming lol. They don’t have a small strap so the kid couldn’t walk out with it. She really was hoping to wear it. Separately, as we left RM to go pick up my sandals from Hermes, the Hermes sales person surprised her with a Kelly that she kept for months...


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Old 28 July 2019, 08:21 AM   #4883
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Agreed. To start with an 11-03 is next to impossible, an 11-03 in NPTP is impossible, no matter the wait. You will need a significant purchase history and a history of not flipping sought after pieces.
If that's true, then how come I keep seeing practically new, if not entirely new, 11-03 Carbon or Red pieces pop up in the grey market?

If that's true, the supply should've long dried out.

Same horsecrap I keep seeing with Rolex sports models or Patek sports models. Keep hearing they only go to VIPs who don't flip, yet I keep seeing them pop up. It's been nonstop in the grey market for years now.
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Old 28 July 2019, 08:22 AM   #4884
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That is the process. I was talking to my boutique about it yesterday. Surprisingly they were explaining that most clients haven't had an issue with it. Two clients have received their first choice and the third had not. They were saying that most are just happy to get one.

I certainly have an issue with it. There is a specific 67-02 that I want and I am not willing to pay for it and have a random one show up- especially when I already bought one grey. It's an extremely frustrating process, especially when you have a huge purchase history. I will keep you posted as to what happens and if I am able to actually order the one I want.

If I am not able to, I am just going to go grey. It's not worth the risk and the wait to "possibly" get what you want.
Did they explain why it's not possible to order a specific color like you can with other models?
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If that's true, then how come I keep seeing practically new, if not entirely new, 11-03 Carbon or Red pieces pop up in the grey market?



If that's true, the supply should've long dried out.



Same horsecrap I keep seeing with Rolex sports models or Patek sports models. Keep hearing they only go to VIPs who don't flip, yet I keep seeing them pop up. It's been nonstop in the grey market for years now.


The reason you keep seeing them is that they are being sold/packaged to mega collectors who are buying tourbs.

Seeing that they cannot discount these pieces anymore, they are throwing in the pieces that are worth a lot more, but the uber uber wealthy wonít wear in their collection of 5 tourbs. These are incentives to get some of the spend back on the million dollar watches

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Old 28 July 2019, 08:27 AM   #4886
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The reason you keep seeing them is that they are being sold/packaged to mega collectors who are buying tourbs.

Seeing that they cannot discount these pieces anymore, they are throwing in the pieces that are worth a lot more, but the uber uber wealthy wonít wear in their collection of 5 tourbs. These are incentives to get some of the spend back on the million dollar watches

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Yes, indeed. But this is in direct conflict with the statements that they go to non-flippers. :) And that flippers get banned.
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Old 28 July 2019, 08:28 AM   #4887
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Also, it is idiotic to want to get $20k back when you are spending a million a pop on a Tourb. I know some of those folks, they don't care to make a quick $20k profit when they earn $20k in a few minutes (or less) based on their business ventures.
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There are two different levels of RM collectors and that is where the dichotomy exists.

The pieces I want, are a joke to those who can afford the tourbs- I’m just not there financially.

These aren’t 20k gains- they are 75k+ gains, and this is exactly how it is sold to these people! Ask them!




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Old 28 July 2019, 08:30 AM   #4889
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Wow! When I read the RM forum these days I canít help wonder how many chairs will be left when the music stops.


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Old 28 July 2019, 08:31 AM   #4890
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There are two different levels of RM collectors and that is where the dichotomy exists.

The pieces I want, are a joke to those who can afford the tourbs- Iím just not there financially




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Yeah. Likewise. :)

Hopefully, one day we both will be.
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