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Daycruiser · 19 May 2018, 06:58 AM

Would you buy?

sensui · 19 May 2018, 07:03 AM

No way....unless it's without a premium.

Cryten · 19 May 2018, 07:05 AM

If the dial (forget the tiffany part) is genuine, then yes.

I wouldn't pay a premium for Tiffany though. Proving it's original without any paperwork is pretty much impossible.

albaserver · 19 May 2018, 07:42 AM

If I was really good to identify (for sure and by myself) a genuine Tiffany dial, I'll buy it. But I'm not.

05carbondrz · 19 May 2018, 07:56 AM

Negative,Even with paperwork.I can’t see paying almost double for “Tiffany” on my Watch.

Kingface66 · 19 May 2018, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albaserver

If I was really good to identify (for sure and by myself) a genuine Tiffany dial, I'll buy it. But I'm not.

Without paperwork, can ANYONE identify a genuine one? (That wasn't meant to be rhetorical. I mean, is it even possible?)

onthedial · 19 May 2018, 09:51 AM

@Daycruiser
Tons of fakes out there...Do you have good pics or are you just asking "in general?"
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Fabrice M · 19 May 2018, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Negative,Even with paperwork.I can’t see paying almost double for “Tiffany” on my Watch.

so true.

cpefy3 · 19 May 2018, 12:42 PM

I wouldn’t pay a premium, but would still consider the watch based on condition. Good luck!!

albaserver · 19 May 2018, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Without paperwork, can ANYONE identify a genuine one? (That wasn't meant to be rhetorical. I mean, is it even possible?)

No idea sorry :(
I'd like to have such experience to identify a good one and I don't know if someone can do that.

Watchesnyc106 · 19 May 2018, 05:11 PM

Blue box??

I personally am a fan of Tiffany anything

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swish77 · 20 May 2018, 01:05 AM

I wouldn't buy a Tiffany dial even WITH proper papers. Way too expensive for what it is.

And I would especially avoid them without papers. Why? Even if there was no additional premium to the price, I'd be too worried that "Tiffany" was added later (faked) on a genuine dial, killing its value.

Daycruiser · 20 May 2018, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

I wouldn't buy a Tiffany dial even WITH proper papers. Way too expensive for what it is.

And I would especially avoid them without papers. Why? Even if there was no additional premium to the price, I'd be too worried that "Tiffany" was added to a genuine dial, killing its value.

I think you hit it right on the nail there. I next the deal.

I had a 5712 1R with T dial with all the original packaging and everything, didn't really do much for me, flipped it in no time and took a slight loss

Silvio_86 · 20 May 2018, 02:45 AM

no papers and all those fakes around.... it's a no for me

roh123 · 20 May 2018, 02:48 AM

Not at a premium.

Vlad · 20 May 2018, 04:09 AM

I would not agree with (some) others who state that this is not for them.... at a discount for damaged dial, I'm in!

gminnj · 20 May 2018, 03:22 PM

I’d consider it, if the dial looked right. Love Tiffany myself.

Gibraltar · 30 May 2018, 11:54 AM

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GB-man · 30 May 2018, 02:11 PM

Not a chance.

Alfasin · 31 May 2018, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

I wouldn't buy a Tiffany dial even WITH proper papers. Way too expensive for what it is.

And I would especially avoid them without papers. Why? Even if there was no additional premium to the price, I'd be too worried that "Tiffany" was added later (faked) on a genuine dial, killing its value.

Kind of like painting the white "Submariner" red on a regular old 1680? Hmm. Luckily you the buyer get to decide if you trust a watch to be genuine.

swish77 · 31 May 2018, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfasin

Kind of like painting the white "Submariner" red on a regular old 1680? Hmm. Luckily you the buyer get to decide if you trust a watch to be genuine.

Perhaps, but that example would be easier to spot as a fake. You also have the issue of the correct serial-number range for a red 1680, so it wouldn't be as simple as just painting a white 1680 dial with red.

Alfasin · 31 May 2018, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swish77

Perhaps, but that example would be easier to spot as a fake. You also have the issue of the correct serial-number range for a red 1680, so it wouldn't be as simple as just painting a white 1680 dial with red.

Sure, but my point is how to spot a fake 1680 red has been a topic on this forum for years. There have been enough fake/real examples to compare and folks can now spot them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't see a high volume of fake/real Tiffany examples to compare. My opinion doesn't really matter here. I've handled enough of these over the years, I as a buyer have confidence in my watches.

joli160 · 31 May 2018, 05:30 AM

Without the papers you probably buy a doctored or franked watch.

Fastfreddy · 31 May 2018, 06:03 AM

No, too many fake/doctored watch and/or papers. Not worth the premium.

Alfasin · 31 May 2018, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

Without the papers you probably buy a doctored or franked watch.

Exactly, watches without papers must be fake or doctored.

sigmadial · 28 June 2018, 05:19 PM

Hmmm depends on the condition. Can always service the watch at Rolex center

yelfel · 30 June 2018, 02:45 PM

Curious... why no premium for a Tiffany dial? Isn’t the tiny variations of text on dials a big part of what defines vintage Rolex?

Tom1675 · 30 June 2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by yelfel

Curious... why no premium for a Tiffany dial? Isn’t the tiny variations of text on dials a big part of what defines vintage Rolex?

Without original paperwork from Tiffany you can't prove its genuine. Very few are properly documented.

Mik8yu · 30 June 2018, 08:17 PM

Will the RSC be able to verify the origination ?

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soundserious · 1 July 2018, 06:39 AM

Start with this premise: All Tiffany dial Rolexes are fake.

Work your way up from there.

19 May 2018, 06:58 AM	#1
Daycruiser "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Ed Location: Hong Kong Watch: BLRO 5712 Posts: 787	1680 tiffany dial no papers - would you? Would you buy?

19 May 2018, 07:42 AM	#4
albaserver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Milan Posts: 170	If I was really good to identify (for sure and by myself) a genuine Tiffany dial, I'll buy it. But I'm not. __________________ Ro! Instagram: @albaserver

20 May 2018, 02:48 AM	#15
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Not at a premium. __________________ Instagram: @perj123

30 May 2018, 02:11 PM	#19
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	Not a chance. __________________

31 May 2018, 05:30 AM	#23
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,344	Without the papers you probably buy a doctored or franked watch. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

19 May 2018, 07:03 AM	#2
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	No way....unless it's without a premium.

19 May 2018, 07:05 AM	#3
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	If the dial (forget the tiffany part) is genuine, then yes. I wouldn't pay a premium for Tiffany though. Proving it's original without any paperwork is pretty much impossible.

19 May 2018, 07:56 AM	#5
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	Negative,Even with paperwork.I can’t see paying almost double for “Tiffany” on my Watch.

19 May 2018, 09:51 AM	#7
onthedial "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Los Angeles Watch: IG @onthedial Posts: 587	@Daycruiser Tons of fakes out there...Do you have good pics or are you just asking "in general?" _________ Instagram: @onthedial

19 May 2018, 12:42 PM	#9
cpefy3 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Collin Location: Raleigh, NC Watch: 16014, 16600 Posts: 344	I wouldn’t pay a premium, but would still consider the watch based on condition. Good luck!!

19 May 2018, 05:11 PM	#11
Watchesnyc106 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 19	Blue box?? I personally am a fan of Tiffany anything Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 May 2018, 01:05 AM	#12
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,789	I wouldn't buy a Tiffany dial even WITH proper papers. Way too expensive for what it is. And I would especially avoid them without papers. Why? Even if there was no additional premium to the price, I'd be too worried that "Tiffany" was added later (faked) on a genuine dial, killing its value.

20 May 2018, 02:45 AM	#14
Silvio_86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Milan Posts: 134	no papers and all those fakes around.... it's a no for me

20 May 2018, 04:09 AM	#16
Vlad "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 813	I would not agree with (some) others who state that this is not for them.... at a discount for damaged dial, I'm in!

20 May 2018, 03:22 PM	#17
gminnj "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 32	I’d consider it, if the dial looked right. Love Tiffany myself.

30 May 2018, 11:54 AM	#18
Gibraltar "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 43	1 ;'

31 May 2018, 06:03 AM	#24
Fastfreddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nevada Posts: 26	No, too many fake/doctored watch and/or papers. Not worth the premium.

28 June 2018, 05:19 PM	#26
sigmadial "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Malaysia Posts: 20	Hmmm depends on the condition. Can always service the watch at Rolex center

30 June 2018, 02:45 PM	#27
yelfel "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 19	Curious... why no premium for a Tiffany dial? Isn’t the tiny variations of text on dials a big part of what defines vintage Rolex?

30 June 2018, 08:17 PM	#29
Mik8yu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Hong kong Posts: 147	Will the RSC be able to verify the origination ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 July 2018, 06:39 AM	#30
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Start with this premise: All Tiffany dial Rolexes are fake. Work your way up from there. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

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