Rolex Daytona is #2 in WatchTime's 7 Iconic Chronographs...

[busytimmy]

The Zenith should be first imo, followed by the Speedy. Then everything else.

[Nycturbovr6]

Not a bad list

[GTS Dean]

I think they pegged it well. The Rolex has a more accurate movement, but in legibility and provenance, the Speedmaster is matchless.



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TT OysterQuartz
SS/Black "U" Daytona
TT GMT II-C
DD OysterQuartz
Breitling Aero
Omega Speedmaster Pro

[polarinda]

No seiko panda?

[srvrf]

This is an older list but here's my take and why I feel the list isn't as far off as many think. Borrowing the definition from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary, the definition of "iconic," is "widely recognized and well-established, <an iconic brand name>, and widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence <an iconic writer><a region's iconic wines>."

So I think lists like these are skewed because WISs are the minority. "Iconic" doesn't mean "mechanically the best" or "most desired." To use the car analogy (again), I think a list of "iconic sports cars" would not be the same as "iconic sports cars for enthusiasts." I don't think a Nautilus or a Datograph are known by anyone other than watch enthusiasts.

[slcbbrown]

Originally Posted by joe100

Drop the AP and IWC and add the Breguet Type XX and you've got it covered

I don't see how the ROO belongs, at all, and as much as I like the IWC, it doesn't belong ahead of the Zenith. I think the first three are correct, but 4 should be the Breguet and 5 the EP.

[belligero]

Originally Posted by srvrf

This is an older list but here's my take and why I feel the list isn't as far off as many think.[...]

Agreed. The list could easily be cut back to three watches; the Speedmaster, the Daytona and the Navitimer, and in that order.

— The Monaco's inclusion is debatable, though the ranking seems fine.
— The IWC doesn't belong on the list at all, even at the bottom. The original Portuguese was intended as a sort of marine chronometer for the wrist, whereas I have no idea what the chronograph version is supposed to be. It's a completely meaningless watch.
— The El Primero is a well-known movement among watch nerds, but can anyone name a single Zenith-produced "El Primero" watch that could be considered iconic? The movement has been used in countless different models, most of which have been forgettable.
— The ROO chrono would be acceptable for a list of trendy watches, but it's no icon.

[westsideclock]

Originally Posted by fmc000

It's not that simple I'm afraid. Not only we're talking about a modular movement: the base is quite a standard movement and the Dubois Depraz chrono module is also a very cheap one. Really embarrassing for such an absurdly priced watch.

Thank you. That was the type of info I was looking for

[SMD]

Originally Posted by fmc000

It's not that simple I'm afraid. Not only we're talking about a modular movement: the base is quite a standard movement and the Dubois Depraz chrono module is also a very cheap one. Really embarrassing for such an absurdly priced watch.

The 3120 is a standard movement? You lost me right there.

http://www.watchtime.com/featured/concept-caliber/

http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....t-caliber-3120


http://www.p178host.com/apgallery/3120/

[SMD]

Originally Posted by belligero

— The ROO chrono would be acceptable for a list of trendy watches, but it's no icon.

The roo has been around for 20 years and they created an entirely new category of sports watch. Everyone has their own criteria for what can be considered an icon, but I would think that after two decades you cannot really call it trendy anymore.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by SMD

The 3120 is a standard movement? You lost me right there.

http://www.watchtime.com/featured/concept-caliber/

http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....t-caliber-3120


http://www.p178host.com/apgallery/3120/

That's quite easy, actually.

The 3120 is the successor of the 2121, previously used in the RO family. The 2121 was of course derived from the JLC 920, probably the best full-rotor ultra-thin movement ever made. One number says it all: the 3120 is 4.25 mm thick and the JLC is 2.45 mm.

Please remember that we're talking luxury watches. And in this category, the 3120 is standard, his predecessor was excellence.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by belligero

— The El Primero is a well-known movement among watch nerds, but can anyone name a single Zenith-produced "El Primero" watch that could be considered iconic? The movement has been used in countless different models, most of which have been forgettable.

Yes, the A386.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by fmc000

That's quite easy, actually.

The 3120 is the successor of the 2121, previously used in the RO family. The 2121 was of course derived from the JLC 920, probably the best full-rotor ultra-thin movement ever made. One number says it all: the 3120 is 4.25 mm thick and the JLC is 2.45 mm.

Please remember that we're talking luxury watches. And in this category, the 3120 is standard, his predecessor was excellence.

Got it. I think there is more to a movement than how thick it is, but we can disagree on that. If the 3120 is standard not sure what that means for the 3135 though.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by SMD

Got it. I think there is more to a movement than how thick it is, but we can disagree on that. If the 3120 is standard not sure what that means for the 3135 though.

Well, we are going way off topic. I will only say that these two movements are meant to be used in two very different categories of watches and usually the APs cost three to four time the Rolexes; therefore I'm not sure that your comparison makes any sense.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by SMD

The roo has been around for 20 years and they created an entirely new category of sports watch. Everyone has their own criteria for what can be considered an icon, but I would think that after two decades you cannot really call it trendy anymore.

Agree, while the ROO is not everyone's cup of tea, it has quickly become the modern iconic definition of a high quality, muscular and substantive sports watch that has spawned more than a few imitators.

[El Primero]

As an owner of most watches in the list plus others that are not included (namely Datograph...), I would slightly amend the list this way (including only automatic, manufacture, column wheel, integrated chronographs):

6. Patek 5980
5. Tag Heuer Carrera
4. Breitling Navitimer
3. Omega Speedmaster
2. Rolex Daytona
1. Zenith El Primero (37mm A384, 37mm A385, 38mm A386, 42mm 36000vph, 38mm Original 1969, 40mm New Vintage 1969, 42mm Striking 10th, 45mm Lightweight...)

[Vanquish1551]

I'm not sure if this a historical overview list or one focused on modern interpretations. The Universal Geneve Tri-Compax is one of the most iconic chronographs of the pre-quartz era.

[anothernewphone]

Icons, top down:
Speedmaster
Daytona
El Primero

Carrera
Navitimer
Nothing else

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by syahriltaher

Guys,


Rolex Daytona named as #2 Iconic Chronographs according to WatchTime...second to Omega Speedmaster...http://www.watchtime.com/blog/fratel...graph-watches/

Do you agree?


Here's the complete list in ascending order:

7. AP ROO
6. Zenith El Primero
5. IWC Portuguese Chrono
4. Tag Heuer Carrera
3. Breitling Navitimer
2. Rolex Daytona
1. Omega Speedmaster


Regards,

For chronos the list makes sense to me. I only need one chrono in my collection and that is an Omega in my case (although I chose a Mark II as being more interesting to me).