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Old 11 August 2019, 03:24 AM   #1
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5711 or 10 of these

I only got one but for the price of a grey market 5711 you could get 10 of the Cartier Santos. IMG_9794.jpgIMG_9795.jpg



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Old 11 August 2019, 03:36 AM   #2
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Or the unique and interesting Bulgari Octo Finissimo




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Old 11 August 2019, 03:45 AM   #3
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Not my cup of tea......

I rather have one 5711 then ten of these Cartier Santos.....

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Old 30 August 2019, 02:11 AM   #4
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Not my cup of tea......

I rather have one 5711 then ten of these Cartier Santos.....

Completely agree
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Old 11 August 2019, 04:54 AM   #5
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this watch is fantastic and worthy of acceptance in place of a 5711...

however personally on seriously disappointing level the watch only has a WR of 30m, basically negating its potential as a daily wear for me.


on another note, Cartier service is nonexistent here in nyc.
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Old 12 August 2019, 08:36 AM   #6
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this watch is fantastic and worthy of acceptance in place of a 5711...

however personally on seriously disappointing level the watch only has a WR of 30m, basically negating its potential as a daily wear for me.


on another note, Cartier service is nonexistent here in nyc.
Is your office located at 31m below the ocean? Why couldn’t a watch with a 30m WR be suitable for daily wear?
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Old 12 August 2019, 09:45 AM   #7
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Is your office located at 31m below the ocean? Why couldn’t a watch with a 30m WR be suitable for daily wear?


It’s not literal. 30m is generally not suitable for submersion in water. No idea who devised the scale for WR but it’s horse shit.
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Old 12 August 2019, 11:34 AM   #8
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It’s not literal. 30m is generally not suitable for submersion in water. No idea who devised the scale for WR but it’s horse shit.
Whaaaaat?? How can it be certified to 30m but not able to go in a kitchen sink?

If it’s not a literal scale, companies are opening themselves up to lots of warranty claims.
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Old 11 August 2019, 03:50 AM   #9
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I like that one also.
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Old 11 August 2019, 03:53 AM   #10
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Old 11 August 2019, 03:58 AM   #11
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How about both, that’s the TRF correct answer.
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Old 11 August 2019, 04:01 AM   #12
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How about both, that’s the TRF correct answer.


Haha! Or even all three would be appropriate and preferred.


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Old 11 August 2019, 04:02 AM   #13
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Old 11 August 2019, 04:39 AM   #14
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One 5711...I think I’m #4,532.5 on the waitlist


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Old 11 August 2019, 02:46 PM   #15
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Nice! You will get yours before mine. I am in the mid 80,000’s


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Old 11 August 2019, 04:50 AM   #16
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I only got one but for the price of a grey market 5711 you could get 10 of the Cartier Santos. Attachment 1062572Attachment 1062573



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Did u get the one with the quick strap change? Those are cool
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Old 11 August 2019, 04:56 AM   #17
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Yes. Quick strap change. It came with a blue calfskin strap and it’s very easy to switch between the two and also to remove links to size the bracelet.
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Old 12 August 2019, 12:03 AM   #18
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Yes. Quick strap change. It came with a blue calfskin strap and it’s very easy to switch between the two and also to remove links to size the bracelet.
I almost bought this lol. My AD told me not to lol

I really like it. I might well buy it regardless. Looks great. Also love it with the blue strap
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Old 12 August 2019, 01:04 AM   #19
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I almost bought this lol. My AD told me not to lol

I really like it. I might well buy it regardless. Looks great. Also love it with the blue strap


Did he tell you why?


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Old 12 August 2019, 01:07 AM   #20
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He wasn’t a fan of cartier... cartier is predominantly a women’s brand 70/30 roughly....I think he equated the brand to your typical non rolex/patek brands.
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He wasn’t a fan of cartier... cartier is predominantly a women’s brand 70/30 roughly....I think he equated the brand to your typical non rolex/patek brands.
Sounds like your typical watch salesperson who doesn't know shit.

The santos was literally the first wristwatch. That has to mean something
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Old 12 August 2019, 01:50 AM   #22
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He wasn’t a fan of cartier... cartier is predominantly a women’s brand 70/30 roughly....I think he equated the brand to your typical non rolex/patek brands.
I don't view Cartier as a top-tier horological brand. But that's not the point. Cartier is about first and foremost about design and aesthetics, not movements or horology. And on that score, the new Santos is a solid choice.

I bought the Tank Francaise in large size when it came out 20 years ago. That was one of my all-time favorite watches - good looking, comfortable, versatile. But by today's standards, it's way too small for men. Haven't worn it in years.

The new Santos is a great looking watch, a truly excellent re-design of an iconic design, and at the price it's a reasonable value. It's a major standout and exception in the current Cartier lineup.

The new Santos is not a competitor to the Patek 5711 in any way - even at list price it's nearly a 5x price difference, and at market price it's more like 10x. They're not in the same league, not even close.

And that's OK.

You don't buy the Santos because it's a fine timepiece. You buy it because it's a decent timepiece (i.e. not a shitter by any means) that more importantly has an extremely well executed design and lots of aesthetic appeal.

I'll likely get the new Santos with Blue Dial one day soon. I'll buy it not as a collector piece, but as a "wear the hell out of it and enjoy it" piece. It will fit just fine alongside my two Pateks.
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He wasn’t a fan of cartier... cartier is predominantly a women’s brand 70/30 roughly....I think he equated the brand to your typical non rolex/patek brands.
JFK and Andy Warhol would disagree with your AD.
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Old 11 August 2019, 05:19 AM   #24
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Old 11 August 2019, 05:39 AM   #25
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Martin, if only this watch had some pedigree or heritage like the 5711!!!

Oh wait a minute.
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Old 11 August 2019, 05:47 AM   #26
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The chronograph GMT from Bulgrai is sweet!

https://www.prestigetime.com/Bulgari...hoCHBEQAvD_BwE
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I had a nice TT Santos Chrono, but I'd take the 5711 over the 10.
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Old 11 August 2019, 09:15 AM   #28
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I only got one but for the price of a grey market 5711 you could get 10 of the Cartier Santos.
Congratulations on your Santos Blue, I really like that one. It's undeniably a great looking watch, especially with the new blue dial Cartier released this year. I've been seriously considering it for a while now, probably just a matter of time before I cave and pull the trigger.
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Old 11 August 2019, 09:20 AM   #29
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Thanks. It was really an impulse purchase, saw it in the window at the mall, read about it later that night, headed for the boutique the next day and it’s been on my wrist since then. Even the Cartier box is good looking.
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Old 11 August 2019, 12:10 PM   #30
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I wouldn’t need more than one but I really like that watch. Congratulations and don’t be mad if I follow your lead


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