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Old 21 July 2020, 08:24 PM   #1
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Strange noise when winding brand new Sub

Hey there,

I acquired a brand new Sub Date from the AD back in May and I absolutely love it!!

However yesterday I wanted to show my bro (he isn't into watches at all) how one winds up an automatic watch when it runs out of energy. So after unscrewing the crown as usual and when I actually started to wind the watch I felt some kind of disturbing resistance and a not so pleasant grinding sound when winding at slow pace. It kinda diminish when winding up faster but I can still feel some resistance.

Winding up used to be super smooth without that "grinding/resistance" feeling.
Should I worry and send the watch to RSC ?
Other than that it keeps perfect time (-2s/week)

Thanks!
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Old 21 July 2020, 08:40 PM   #2
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Hard to tell with know feeling or hearing it, but could just be the new teeth in the gears. Most likely not much to worry about, and if it gets worse, still covered under warranty anyways.
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Old 21 July 2020, 08:53 PM   #3
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Hey there,

I acquired a brand new Sub Date from the AD back in May and I absolutely love it!!

However yesterday I wanted to show my bro (he isn't into watches at all) how one winds up an automatic watch when it runs out of energy. So after unscrewing the crown as usual and when I actually started to wind the watch I felt some kind of disturbing resistance and a not so pleasant grinding sound when winding at slow pace. It kinda diminish when winding up faster but I can still feel some resistance.

Winding up used to be super smooth without that "grinding/resistance" feeling.
Should I worry and send the watch to RSC ?
Other than that it keeps perfect time (-2s/week)

Thanks!
Its possible mainspring was already fully wound the feel resistance and noise just the mainspring slipping in the spring-barrel perfectly normal,I would doubt if you have any problem with your watch. And for any watch if its like you state -2 seconds a week, you have a watch in a million so leave well alone.
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Old 11 August 2020, 01:50 PM   #4
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i have the same problem with my sub. When manual winding at slow pace, can feel there is some rough winding and i can feel like there is two metal rubbing. I believe this is similiar to the 'grinding' that the TS described.

Since it is under warranty, i have sent the watch to local RSC. They acknowledged this problem and accepted my watch for repairing.
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Old 11 August 2020, 05:45 PM   #5
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Let your a SubDate run down to zero power reserve and wind it from there.

Should be smooth to wind.

If not then I would have it checked out.
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Old 11 August 2020, 09:21 PM   #6
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Let your a SubDate run down to zero power reserve and wind it from there.

Should be smooth to wind.

If not then I would have it checked out.

yes, i have done this several times by letting it to run down completely and perform the manual winding at slow pace. The 'grinding' is there.
thanks for the hint to try out.
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Old 11 August 2020, 09:30 PM   #7
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Let your a SubDate run down to zero power reserve and wind it from there.

Should be smooth to wind.

If not then I would have it checked out.
This ^^^

On a separate note, I notice the 32 series movements are a little “gritty” feeling when winding, as compared to 31 Series movements.

My Submariner is buttery smooth.
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Old 11 August 2020, 09:39 PM   #8
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Hey there,

I acquired a brand new Sub Date from the AD back in May and I absolutely love it!!

However yesterday I wanted to show my bro (he isn't into watches at all) how one winds up an automatic watch when it runs out of energy. So after unscrewing the crown as usual and when I actually started to wind the watch I felt some kind of disturbing resistance and a not so pleasant grinding sound when winding at slow pace. It kinda diminish when winding up faster but I can still feel some resistance.

Winding up used to be super smooth without that "grinding/resistance" feeling.
Should I worry and send the watch to RSC ?
Other than that it keeps perfect time (-2s/week)

Thanks!
When you sleep lay the watch dial side up during the night. It will go from losing 2 seconds to likely gaining a few seconds. Mine did. Most prefer a watch to gain rather than to lose. Give it a try for kicks and giggles.
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Old 12 August 2020, 12:18 AM   #9
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Hey there,

I acquired a brand new Sub Date from the AD back in May and I absolutely love it!!

However yesterday I wanted to show my bro (he isn't into watches at all) how one winds up an automatic watch when it runs out of energy. So after unscrewing the crown as usual and when I actually started to wind the watch I felt some kind of disturbing resistance and a not so pleasant grinding sound when winding at slow pace. It kinda diminish when winding up faster but I can still feel some resistance.

Winding up used to be super smooth without that "grinding/resistance" feeling.
Should I worry and send the watch to RSC ?
Other than that it keeps perfect time (-2s/week)

Thanks!

Winding my SD43 feels buttery smooth when power reserve is depleted, but once I get around the 40 full crown turns I start to feel a sort of resistance, smoothness at that point becomes less buttery I can confirm low grinding noise too.
Same happens with my Tudor GMT. Smooth at first, resistance toward the end.
Normal I guess.


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Old 12 August 2020, 12:25 AM   #10
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I have felt some of that gritty sensation when winding my 114060, however it is much more prevalent when the watch is fully wound vs when it is not. I will say that in general the winding action of my 214270 is superior to that of my 114060.
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Old 12 August 2020, 12:31 AM   #11
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That gritty feeling / noise can just be a symptom of a fully wound watch that is activating its clutch system to divert the energy you are trying to put into the mainstream as it’s already detecting its fully wound.

I can detect this in my Rolexes and tudors. My wife’s DateJust came back from service and it felt exactly like described, in fact it seemed even more obvious after service for some reason.
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Old 12 August 2020, 01:51 AM   #12
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noticed the same resistance between my 1989 datejust and 2019 SUb C.
Sub C has resistance versus smooth like on ice.
Note both use same movement.
AD told me this was normal.
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Old 12 August 2020, 02:41 AM   #13
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If it’s gritty towards fully wound that’s normal. It’s the spring slipping inside the barrel. BUT, if it’s gritty at the very beginning and you’re certain the watch was completely unwound (dead) when you started winding, that’s not normal.
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Old 12 August 2020, 04:35 AM   #14
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Mine is buttery smooth
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