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gmtmister · 11 August 2020, 07:59 PM

Hello,

I just received a beautiful swiss only 14270 from 99 that I love. Everything checks out but it does have some sort of abnormality on the 12 o’clock lume that didn’t appear in the photos.
Looks like a little dimple.
I am wondering if I’m being too picky given the age of the watch and I should just enjoy it, or if it’s in fact a big deal.

I would love to hear your opinions on this thank you!

gmtmister · 11 August 2020, 10:47 PM

More pics.

kbutler1 · 11 August 2020, 10:57 PM

Is it indented? Tough to tell in the photos

gmtmister · 11 August 2020, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kbutler1

Is it indented? Tough to tell in the photos

Yes that’s what it looks like.

padi56 · 11 August 2020, 11:34 PM

The lume is just and paint nothing more and when applied sometimes it shrinks as it dries but as long as it glows not a problem.What is a problem especially with new owners and loupes and high magnification now they can and will be the owners worst enemy.

gmtmister · 11 August 2020, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

The lume is just and paint nothing more and when applied sometimes it shrinks as it dries but as long as it glows not a problem.What is a problem especially with new owners and loupes and high magnification now they can and will be the owners worst enemy.

I get your point, but I aint magnifying nothing...

That's just visible to the naked eye

Thankyou for your opinion anyway...I appreciate it :)

GlossSwiss · 11 August 2020, 11:48 PM

might be relumed do to moisture damage

gmtmister · 11 August 2020, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GlossSwiss

might be relumed do to moisture damage

it doesn't look like it.

the lume looks original. it's just this particular marker that has the issue.

GlossSwiss · 12 August 2020, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ale

it doesn't look like it.

the lume looks original. it's just this particular marker that has the issue.

Majority of them look indented to me especially the 7 and 8 in the pic

gmtmister · 12 August 2020, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GlossSwiss

Majority of them look indented to me especially the 7 and 8 in the pic

that's true actually. Thank you for pointing that out.

BartM · 12 August 2020, 01:47 AM

Looks like most of them are indented actually. Never seen this before.

Rado63 · 12 August 2020, 03:42 AM

It looks different to me. I don't know if you can find a "SWISS" only dial to replace. You would have to search. Service dial would probably read "Swiss Made. "

Onikage · 12 August 2020, 03:49 AM

Why bother? It works! Lume material itself is patchy, blobby inconsistent stuff - No two indices are the same. As long as they keep it all inside the surrounds I'm happy. That's a damn nice Explorer by the way.

gmtmister · 12 August 2020, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Why bother? It works! Lume material itself is patchy, blobby inconsistent stuff - No two indices are the same. As long as they keep it all inside the surrounds I'm happy. That's a damn nice Explorer by the way.

Thank you, in theory I completely agree with you but I can’t deny that’s all I see now when I look and it’s driving me a bit crazy. It’s irrational , I’m conscious of that.

Onikage · 12 August 2020, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BartM

Looks like most of them are indented actually.

Likestheshiny · 12 August 2020, 04:02 AM

I see it, but it wouldn't bother me.

I personally would never bother getting it addressed on its own, but at service time I might ask how much extra it costs to get a replacement dial. There's also a chance that during service the RSC might replace it for free if it decides that the old dial should have held up better.

(And I also wouldn't care if I got a service dial that wasn't exactly the same. This isn't a rare watch that needs to be kept original. As long as the lume matches the hands, I'd be fine with a service dial.)

S.Explorer · 12 August 2020, 04:50 AM

I would try to keep the original dial (if the service dial differs). As with most things out of production, it will become rare / harder to find over time.

joli160 · 12 August 2020, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ale

Thank you, in theory I completely agree with you but I can’t deny that’s all I see now when I look and it’s driving me a bit crazy. It’s irrational , I’m conscious of that.

Than return it and find another

jimcameron · 12 August 2020, 05:06 AM

Some watch enthusiasts shouldn't buy anything but new.

gmtmister · 12 August 2020, 07:53 AM

Going back, thank you!

Oldfellow · 12 August 2020, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ale

Going back, thank you!

Probably a good call, hope you find one you are happy with.

11 August 2020, 11:34 PM	#5
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12 August 2020, 03:42 AM	#12
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	It looks different to me. I don't know if you can find a "SWISS" only dial to replace. You would have to search. Service dial would probably read "Swiss Made. " __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

12 August 2020, 03:49 AM	#13
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	Why bother? It works! Lume material itself is patchy, blobby inconsistent stuff - No two indices are the same. As long as they keep it all inside the surrounds I'm happy. That's a damn nice Explorer by the way. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

11 August 2020, 10:57 PM	#3
kbutler1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Colorado Watch: This one Posts: 633	Is it indented? Tough to tell in the photos

11 August 2020, 11:48 PM	#7
GlossSwiss Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 46	might be relumed do to moisture damage

12 August 2020, 01:47 AM	#11
BartM "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: The Netherlands Watch: 116613LB Posts: 34	Looks like most of them are indented actually. Never seen this before.

12 August 2020, 04:02 AM	#16
Likestheshiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: _ Posts: 1,877	I see it, but it wouldn't bother me. I personally would never bother getting it addressed on its own, but at service time I might ask how much extra it costs to get a replacement dial. There's also a chance that during service the RSC might replace it for free if it decides that the old dial should have held up better. (And I also wouldn't care if I got a service dial that wasn't exactly the same. This isn't a rare watch that needs to be kept original. As long as the lume matches the hands, I'd be fine with a service dial.)

12 August 2020, 04:50 AM	#17
S.Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: United Kingdom Watch: Rollie Posts: 679	I would try to keep the original dial (if the service dial differs). As with most things out of production, it will become rare / harder to find over time.

12 August 2020, 05:06 AM	#19
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,516	Some watch enthusiasts shouldn't buy anything but new.

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gmtmister "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Citizen of Earth Posts: 365	Going back, thank you!

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