Rolex transitional models

[startrolexendrolex]

How much importance does everyone put into transitional models, compare to error dials or short production run rolex models?

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[mykii]

Interesting, but not important, references.

Interesting due to their different references and minor differences, not important because they're just not. Luckily, they don't need to be, as anything "different" in the Rolex world makes it "collectible".

I wouldn't put much value into most of them, of course there are exceptions.

[startrolexendrolex]

Originally Posted by mykii

Interesting, but not important, references.

Interesting due to their different references and minor differences, not important because they're just not. Luckily, they don't need to be, as anything "different" in the Rolex world makes it "collectible".

I wouldn't put much value into most of them, of course there are exceptions.

Using a example of a Kermit flat 4 were the value is much higher then the non flat 4 but a transitional sub wouldn't have that type of delta compare to standard?

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[padi56]

Originally Posted by startrolexendrolex

How much importance does everyone put into transitional models, compare to error dials or short production run rolex models?

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Most so called error dials are over exaggerated by the net and those with little true Rolex knowledge .Like the so called error dial or stick dial 16710 GMT in the real world all it was just a simple font change much like the hundreds of others over the past 40 years.But todays sellers have locked in to words like flat four font, rare,error,transitional plus many others to drive prices up it's that simple.The only importance for me is buying the watch I want to own and wear.Then condition of the watch and the price I am willing to pay,I do not buy because so called rare, or the internet hype over so called short production runs or so called error dials even flat four fonts.

[Yaz]

Originally Posted by padi56

Most so called error dials are over exaggerated by the net and those with little true Rolex knowledge .Like the so called error dial or stick dial 16710 GMT in the real world all it was just a simple font change much like the hundreds of others over the past 40 years.But todays sellers have locked in to words like flat four font, rare,error,transitional plus many others to drive prices up it's that simple.The only importance for me is buying the watch I want to own and wear.Then condition of the watch and the price I am willing to pay.I do not buy because so called rare, or the internet hype over so called short production runs or so called error dials even flat four fonts.

100% agree


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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by padi56

Most so called error dials are over exaggerated by the net and those with little true Rolex knowledge .Like the so called error dial or stick dial 16710 GMT in the real world all it was just a simple font change much like the hundreds of others over the past 40 years.But todays sellers have locked in to words like flat four font, rare,error,transitional plus many others to drive prices up it's that simple.The only importance for me is buying the watch I want to own and wear.Then condition of the watch and the price I am willing to pay.I do not buy because so called rare, or the internet hype over so called short production runs or so called error dials even flat four fonts.

This!!!


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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by padi56

Most so called error dials are over exaggerated by the net and those with little true Rolex knowledge .Like the so called error dial or stick dial 16710 GMT in the real world all it was just a simple font change much like the hundreds of others over the past 40 years.But todays sellers have locked in to words like flat four font, rare,error,transitional plus many others to drive prices up it's that simple.The only importance for me is buying the watch I want to own and wear.Then condition of the watch and the price I am willing to pay,I do not buy because so called rare, or the internet hype over so called short production runs or so called error dials even flat four fonts.

I agree. I pay no attention to manufactured hype

[1William]

No importance to me and I would not pay more for one.

[Bruno Datejust]

Originally Posted by padi56

Most so called error dials are over exaggerated by the net and those with little true Rolex knowledge .Like the so called error dial or stick dial 16710 GMT in the real world all it was just a simple font change much like the hundreds of others over the past 40 years.But todays sellers have locked in to words like flat four font, rare,error,transitional plus many others to drive prices up it's that simple.The only importance for me is buying the watch I want to own and wear.Then condition of the watch and the price I am willing to pay,I do not buy because so called rare, or the internet hype over so called short production runs or so called error dials even flat four fonts.

[garyk]

Interesting nuance stuff!

[brandrea]

Personally I don’t pay much attention, but there’s no denying that these subtle nuances do make a difference when it comes to what they’re worth.

If you had a choice been a regular LV or a flat 4 and they were the same price then what would it matter ... problem is, the market (whether it’s hype or not) says the flat 4 is worth thousands more ... so it is

[startrolexendrolex]

Very interesting prospectives. Thanks for chiming in guys.

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[Nikrnic]

Error/Stick dials are not rare and were commonly used as replacement/service dials by RSC. Just another hype thats out there to pump up value.

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[GlossSwiss]

So my 2001 transitional 16610 submariner solid end links/93250 bracelet/ Swiss made/lug holes/ flat 4 bezel/Flat s dial doesn't add $1k to the value??

[Rado63]

Four digits and five digits have much more transitional dials than do the current six digits. The dial can make a significant difference to the value of the piece. Also there were four digit references that were produced in extremely low numbers and hence command a high price. One of my favorites is the multiple dial changes on the Zenith Daytona. I believe eight different dial variations on that watch during it's production run.

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by padi56

Most so called error dials are over exaggerated by the net and those with little true Rolex knowledge .Like the so called error dial or stick dial 16710 GMT in the real world all it was just a simple font change much like the hundreds of others over the past 40 years.But todays sellers have locked in to words like flat four font, rare,error,transitional plus many others to drive prices up it's that simple.The only importance for me is buying the watch I want to own and wear.Then condition of the watch and the price I am willing to pay,I do not buy because so called rare, or the internet hype over so called short production runs or so called error dials even flat four fonts.

This.

[dbao]

I agree that these sorts of things aren't really a big deal, but is there more information somewhere about the flat 4 bezels? Everything I've seen is just talking about the LV ones, as opposed to the regular LN ones over the years.

The reason I ask is because the 168000 I got (yep went transitional, but thankfully found it for a non-inflated price) had a service bezel, so I went out and got a 16800 bezel that happens to have a flat 4. In some ways I don't care if it's exactly period correct for my 168000 since I just like how it looks, but I'm more curious if there is any more concrete information on them vs. "some just had a different font".

[snok]

I love this thread. Very educative