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BanjoP · 6 April 2007, 11:27 PM

I have been reading how some buyers claim to get big discounts on new Rolex's. I do not believe this to be true. I would like to see some hard core evidence to such claims. If you can't or are unwilling to post, then don't even say it. My AD said that it is very highly unlikely that such discounts are to be had.

jac67 · 6 April 2007, 11:36 PM

Well BanjoP

If you pay for my ticket to the US, or if you are in Australia, please let me know.

I will be only too happy to show you my receipts from AD's.

John.

astcell · 6 April 2007, 11:37 PM

Prices are not the same worldwide.

walds11 · 6 April 2007, 11:49 PM

I sure would like to see some hardcore evidence. Some of these discounts I am seeing on SS models seem a little outlandish. I buy pre-owned, so I wouldn't really know.

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Originally Posted by BanjoP

I have been reading how some buyers claim to get big discounts on new Rolex's. I do not believe this to be true. I would like to see some hard core evidence to such claims. If you can't or are unwilling to post, then don't even say it. My AD said that it is very highly unlikely that such discounts are to be had.

astcell · 6 April 2007, 11:52 PM

My only discount was on a Panerai. My TT GMTII was cheaper because the price overseas is less, plus there is no sales tax, and it is custom to give 10% off to "your" customers in Qatar.

Rockrolex · 6 April 2007, 11:52 PM

I've only bought one Rolex new (and that was from a grey dealer). On that one I got a 15% discount from MSRP. All the others have been pre-owned and the discounts have been much steeper - best was 66% off MSRP for my YG DD. But it was 15 years old when I bought it.

Prince · 6 April 2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

...But it was 15 years old when I bought it.

Ahhh yes, but 15 years is but a blip on the Rolex radar of life expectancy. Long live your DD!!!

Welshwatchman · 7 April 2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BanjoP

I have been reading how some buyers claim to get big discounts on new Rolex's. I do not believe this to be true. I would like to see some hard core evidence to such claims. If you can't or are unwilling to post, then don't even say it. My AD said that it is very highly unlikely that such discounts are to be had.

It would appear that your AD is determined to refuse you a decent discount.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE my fellow members. There are far too many respected members with similar experiences of decent discounts (as well as the odd tosser full of bullsh!t).

Speak to other dealers, get a decent discount and then you may become a believer.

AdamB · 7 April 2007, 12:09 AM

Is there a prize for posting a receipt showing a discount lol :)

AdamB · 7 April 2007, 12:19 AM

Don't know if these are large enough for you, but 10% off a SS Daytona and 10% off a SS Submariner Date...

astcell · 7 April 2007, 12:21 AM

Heck most SS Daytonas have 10%+ added ON!

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jac67

Well BanjoP

If you pay for my ticket to the US, or if you are in Australia, please let me know.

I will be only too happy to show you my receipts from AD's.

John.

If that's what it takes for you to prove it then you should pay the expense yourself. How about a pic!

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by astcell

Prices are not the same worldwide.

In what sense dollars vs pounds vs lyra vs yen!

Welshwatchman · 7 April 2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamB

Don't know if these are large enough for you, but 10% off a SS Daytona and 10% off a SS Submariner Date...

The 10% on a 116520 is a shocker!

I know Adam is a mover and shaker on one of the other forums as a seller but STILL !!

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

It would appear that your AD is determined to refuse you a decent discount.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE my fellow members. There are far too many respected members with similar experiences of decent discounts (as well as the odd tosser full of bullsh!t).

Speak to other dealers, get a decent discount and then you may become a believer.

He is not refusing a discount, only the outlandish amounts that are sometimes posted here. For example TT GMT-NASTER II at a few hundred USD below a AD TT BLue Sub, cut me a break.

astcell · 7 April 2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BanjoP

In what sense dollars vs pounds vs lyra vs yen!

The MSRP is nott he same across the board. $2000 in the USA may be 1000 Pounds Sterling, but a $2000 Rolex in the US may fetch $1,200 in England based on many factors such as import taxes, duties, expenses, etc.

My GMT was $8317 in US dollars in Qatar and in the US it is $8925.

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

The 10% on a 116520 is a shocker!

I know Adam is a mover and shaker on one of the other forums as a seller but STILL !!

What is that receipt for a Timex, where does it say AD, and model watch?

AdamB · 7 April 2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

I know Adam is a mover and shaker on one of the other forums as a seller but STILL !!

Not sure whether to take that as a compliment or not

Seriously though, it was a year I had bought a LOT of stuff, and put every friend I knew who wanted something through the same jeweller.

But, I sold it, so now that I want another I am

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamB

Is there a prize for posting a receipt showing a discount lol :)

Yes! it's called credability!

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by astcell

The MSRP is nott he same across the board. $2000 in the USA may be 1000 Pounds Sterling, but a $2000 Rolex in the US may fetch $1,200 in England based on many factors such as import taxes, duties, expenses, etc.

My GMT was $8317 in US dollars in Qatar and in the US it is $8925.

We are not comparing US Vs Qatar here. What percentage did you actually get from your AD in your Country and town.

AdamB · 7 April 2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BanjoP

What is that receipt for a Timex, where does it say AD, and model watch?

Hi Banjo...It states Rolex, if you know of any grey dealers selling SS Daytona's at list (£4420 is UK list, £2840 SS Sub list) let me know, and as for the AD bit, removed to protect the innocent from the Rolex hit list.

D4UK · 7 April 2007, 12:33 AM

I recently bought a TT GMT II at 17% less than it would have been available in the UK. some of this is because of the export tax and some because of currency.

It;s also true that it depends on where you're based. In the UK it's quite common to get a discount on YG or TT models and less so on SS models. Also in the UK 7-10% is easily achieved on a Plat YM even from the lowest discounting AD's but I know that the same watch in the Gulf is harldy ever discounted...

D4UK · 7 April 2007, 12:36 AM

i must say i'm very impressed by the 10% discount on the SS Daytona.. which for most of us in the UK is either on a list closed or 4 year wait status...

hats off to you Adam..

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamB

Hi Banjo...It states Rolex, if you know of any grey dealers selling SS Daytona's at list (£4420 is UK list, £2840 SS Sub list) let me know, and as for the AD bit, removed to protect the innocent from the Rolex hit list.

You think Rolex is that stupid! they can audit an AD's books, and see what their selling them for. Your protection is a self imposed delusion.

Welshwatchman · 7 April 2007, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamB

Not sure whether to take that as a compliment or not

Adam, it was meant 95% complimentary and 5% pure jealousy.

AdamB · 7 April 2007, 12:41 AM

Banjo, I didn't say they couldn't, what I am doing is not making it any easier for them by leading them to the AD's door.

Welshwatchman · 7 April 2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BanjoP

You think Rolex is that stupid! they can audit an AD's books, and see what their selling them for. Your protection is a self imposed delusion.

Wait 'til Banjo finds out how much JJ pays for his watches at an AD.

He will have a fit or attempt to call the Rolex gestapo in to close the dealer down.

BanjoP · 7 April 2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamB

Banjo, I didn't say they couldn't, what I am doing is not making it any easier for them by leading them to the AD's door.

It would make it even easier if people left the price discounts out altogether. We are not the only one's capable of viewing this site and it's contents, I know for a fact that one dealer has a sales person checking it almost every day.

GerardoG · 7 April 2007, 12:51 AM

Well Banjo; I do not know how Rolex works, all I know is a) we do get some good prices with some dealers and b) your AD has NEVER been to a cruise @ caribbean. If you do not believe any of us; well, I am sorry. Why would we lie about this? I will not (no offense) 'prove' that pricing in places such as Asia, Hong Kong and the Caribbean are lower than the US price; and also that we deal with PEOPLE who happen to be AD's. I am sure on your line of business (as I do on mine), you do not quote the same price to Framer Bob who walks into the door to your 15 year, consistent customer.

Welshwatchman · 7 April 2007, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BanjoP

I know for a fact that one dealer has a sales person checking it almost every day.

If I were a dealer I would be trying to get in with the members. What a market potential $100,000s of sales potential.

Get them discounts going Mr dealer !!

6 April 2007, 11:27 PM	#1
BanjoP Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 80	Bogus Rolex Discount Claims I have been reading how some buyers claim to get big discounts on new Rolex's. I do not believe this to be true. I would like to see some hard core evidence to such claims. If you can't or are unwilling to post, then don't even say it. My AD said that it is very highly unlikely that such discounts are to be had.

6 April 2007, 11:52 PM	#6
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,504	I've only bought one Rolex new (and that was from a grey dealer). On that one I got a 15% discount from MSRP. All the others have been pre-owned and the discounts have been much steeper - best was 66% off MSRP for my YG DD. But it was 15 years old when I bought it. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

7 April 2007, 12:19 AM	#10
AdamB Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ... Posts: 261	Here ya go... Don't know if these are large enough for you, but 10% off a SS Daytona and 10% off a SS Submariner Date...

6 April 2007, 11:36 PM	#2
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	Well BanjoP If you pay for my ticket to the US, or if you are in Australia, please let me know. I will be only too happy to show you my receipts from AD's. John.

6 April 2007, 11:37 PM	#3
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	Prices are not the same worldwide.

7 April 2007, 12:09 AM	#9
AdamB Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ... Posts: 261	Is there a prize for posting a receipt showing a discount lol :)

7 April 2007, 12:21 AM	#11
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	Heck most SS Daytonas have 10%+ added ON!

7 April 2007, 12:33 AM	#22
D4UK Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Watch: TT SUB LV GMTII Posts: 527	I recently bought a TT GMT II at 17% less than it would have been available in the UK. some of this is because of the export tax and some because of currency. It;s also true that it depends on where you're based. In the UK it's quite common to get a discount on YG or TT models and less so on SS models. Also in the UK 7-10% is easily achieved on a Plat YM even from the lowest discounting AD's but I know that the same watch in the Gulf is harldy ever discounted...

7 April 2007, 12:36 AM	#23
D4UK Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Watch: TT SUB LV GMTII Posts: 527	i must say i'm very impressed by the 10% discount on the SS Daytona.. which for most of us in the UK is either on a list closed or 4 year wait status... hats off to you Adam..

7 April 2007, 12:41 AM	#26
AdamB Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ... Posts: 261	Banjo, I didn't say they couldn't, what I am doing is not making it any easier for them by leading them to the AD's door.

7 April 2007, 12:51 AM	#29
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Well Banjo; I do not know how Rolex works, all I know is a) we do get some good prices with some dealers and b) your AD has NEVER been to a cruise @ caribbean. If you do not believe any of us; well, I am sorry. Why would we lie about this? I will not (no offense) 'prove' that pricing in places such as Asia, Hong Kong and the Caribbean are lower than the US price; and also that we deal with PEOPLE who happen to be AD's. I am sure on your line of business (as I do on mine), you do not quote the same price to Framer Bob who walks into the door to your 15 year, consistent customer.

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