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6XYBE63ST · 10 April 2022, 08:39 AM

what would you say is the price difference between a panerai w/o box and papers and with box and papers?

tedo · 10 April 2022, 02:35 PM

1500

6XYBE63ST · 10 April 2022, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tedo

1500

, anybody else?

1William · 10 April 2022, 11:40 PM

Depends on the model, the desirability and the seller. A 127 or a 217 that is not complete will still bring a significant amount but with the box and papers it is worth much more than $1500 difference. Sorry I can not be more specific.

Dan2010 · 11 April 2022, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 6XYBE63ST

, anybody else?

Typically in the $500 range.

njlam · 12 April 2022, 12:52 PM

I agree with $1500 for watches that cost over $6-$7K

mobster600 · 13 April 2022, 01:55 AM

Box and papers help with authenticity and legitimacy of the seller. I’d be wary of a seller with little to no feedback selling a watch w/o documentation. I honestly wouldn’t buy it myself. I’d rather pay the extra price for the peace of mind. Which is why $500-$1500 come off the price. The actual value of a paper is $0, it’s the peace of mind

roger.bolton · 13 April 2022, 07:18 AM

It is not just price, box/papers will be easier to sell.

Andy0331 · 13 April 2022, 09:59 AM

Personally, I wouldn't touch a PAM w/o box & papers, at least not the classic models. They used to be one of the most commonly faked watches out there during the hype years.

If you personally knew the seller & was positive it was legitimate, sure. But even then, if you ever expected to resell it, you'd take a bath.

Polar Bear · 19 April 2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by roger.bolton

It is not just price, box/papers will be easier to sell.

^This
The difference in price means little if you cant find a buyer
I wont touch a Panerai without Papers

mikelprz · 26 April 2022, 02:24 AM

In regards to myself. I prefer box and papers. Without, you really have to know what you are buying, who is the seller, and possibly history of the watch.

I remember many years ago, watch owners would toss the box and papers. These days, not so much. Just the box and papers can be found for crazy prices online Lol.

Panerai models differ from each other.
I only own one Panerai, and i purchased from BNIB from AD. So definitely not an expert.

So in general, figure if you wanted to buy the box and papers later, what they would cost you. Know what you are willing to spend/afford for the watch. Every model is different and do some research. Negotiate and see what is possible.
I think, its a give and take thing. Seller might be trying to make a profit or recover some of what he paid for it initially, for servicing, etc. You are trying to buy it at a good price.
If both parties are happy with what they are getting, based on proper information, then it's a great deal.

10 April 2022, 08:39 AM	#1
6XYBE63ST Banned Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: kommyfornia Posts: 202	price difference? what would you say is the price difference between a panerai w/o box and papers and with box and papers?

10 April 2022, 02:35 PM	#2
tedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: CA Posts: 467	1500 __________________ Both past and present … Santos de Cartier • Hublot BB • Panerai Luminor • Patek Calatrava • AP Royal Oak • Omega • Hermès • Breitling • Rolex • IWC Schaffhausen • TAG Heuer • Doxa

10 April 2022, 11:40 PM	#4
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,749	Depends on the model, the desirability and the seller. A 127 or a 217 that is not complete will still bring a significant amount but with the box and papers it is worth much more than $1500 difference. Sorry I can not be more specific. Last edited by 1William; 10 April 2022 at 11:40 PM.. Reason: spelling

12 April 2022, 12:52 PM	#6
njlam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 523	I agree with $1500 for watches that cost over $6-$7K __________________ Rolex Day-Date 118208 YG/Datejust 116139 WG/GMT2 116710 BLNR SS Patek Philippe Calatrava 5096 RG - Omega Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire SS Cartier Tank Louis 1140 YG - Panerai GMT 233 SS - Zenith Chrono 01.0240.410 SS JLC Reverso Duo Q2714910 SS - Grand Seiko SGBA407 - Baltic Aquascaphe SS TAG Heuer Formula One - Swatch MoonSwatch Mission to the Moon/Mercury/Jupiter/Neptune

13 April 2022, 01:55 AM	#7
mobster600 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: Yes Posts: 1,477	Box and papers help with authenticity and legitimacy of the seller. I’d be wary of a seller with little to no feedback selling a watch w/o documentation. I honestly wouldn’t buy it myself. I’d rather pay the extra price for the peace of mind. Which is why $500-$1500 come off the price. The actual value of a paper is $0, it’s the peace of mind

13 April 2022, 07:18 AM	#8
roger.bolton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: USA Posts: 135	It is not just price, box/papers will be easier to sell.

13 April 2022, 09:59 AM	#9
Andy0331 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: FL Posts: 417	Personally, I wouldn't touch a PAM w/o box & papers, at least not the classic models. They used to be one of the most commonly faked watches out there during the hype years. If you personally knew the seller & was positive it was legitimate, sure. But even then, if you ever expected to resell it, you'd take a bath.

26 April 2022, 02:24 AM	#11
mikelprz Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Batman Posts: 452	In regards to myself. I prefer box and papers. Without, you really have to know what you are buying, who is the seller, and possibly history of the watch. I remember many years ago, watch owners would toss the box and papers. These days, not so much. Just the box and papers can be found for crazy prices online Lol. Panerai models differ from each other. I only own one Panerai, and i purchased from BNIB from AD. So definitely not an expert. So in general, figure if you wanted to buy the box and papers later, what they would cost you. Know what you are willing to spend/afford for the watch. Every model is different and do some research. Negotiate and see what is possible. I think, its a give and take thing. Seller might be trying to make a profit or recover some of what he paid for it initially, for servicing, etc. You are trying to buy it at a good price. If both parties are happy with what they are getting, based on proper information, then it's a great deal.

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