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SKYDIAMOND · 19 May 2022, 05:28 AM

Hey,

Can anyone give me some information about this watch? came from a single owner. watch is running, doesn't have box or papers. any info would be extremely helpful.

serial number dates it to 1960

SKYDIAMOND · 19 May 2022, 05:37 AM

Thanks in advance

dhknola · 19 May 2022, 05:58 AM

Repost in vintage with much better and closer pics of the dial.
I do not think the bezel or 24h hand are right.
Case is soft, but an incredible watch imho, chapter ring dials are killer.
Good luck w it.

dannyp · 20 May 2022, 02:49 AM

Only thing one can say for sure is that it’s been massively over polished over the years. Crown guards practically stick our father than crown and end of spring bar protrudes beyond lug hole.

TuRo · 20 May 2022, 03:01 AM

Can't see on photo, but should be:

'OYSTER - PERPETUAL' not 'OYSTER PERPETUAL'

On a 60/61 1675 gilt chapter.

SKYDIAMOND · 21 May 2022, 02:50 AM

yes definitely over polished. the pin isn't correct either, I think that's why its protruding.

dial says " Oyster - Perpetual "

SKYDIAMOND · 21 May 2022, 02:59 AM

Reposting this in the proper thread.

Just looking to get some information on this gmt.

Can anyone give me some information about this watch? came from a single owner. watch is running, doesn't have box or papers. any info would be extremely helpful.

serial number dates it to 1960

so far what I have is that the case has been extremely over polished.

someone says hand are service hands.

dial is Gilt

Is this considered a collectable watch? are there ways to fix the above mentioned issues? is it worth fixing?

thanks again

TimeToGo · 21 May 2022, 03:49 AM

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Better picture. Helps when this happens.

donq · 21 May 2022, 08:19 AM

Any 4 Digit Rolex sports model is collectible. Like all collectibles condition is key.

This one has some issues, but they can be corrected.

Cases can be welded up and recut to restore the proper shape, but it’s not cheap and the watch will never be original.

It’s like having a vintage sports car with the original paint vs. a repainted one. It might be worth more, but aside from the hardcore collectors, it’s not going to effect the enjoyment of owning it.

I would just wear it and enjoy it for what it is.

If you are thinking about buying it, don’t pay too dollar though…

Nick9 · 21 May 2022, 08:45 AM

That looks like a desirable US made oval link Jubilee bracelet.

Good looking watch, in my book.

Dan S · 21 May 2022, 08:54 AM

I'm not sure about the context of the questions, and I think you will receive different comments depending on whether this is an heirloom vs. a potential purchase. Like most old watches, it has issues, but the dial is appealing, and many of the issues could be addressed to the extent you chose to do so.

TuRo · 21 May 2022, 03:24 PM

All about the price. Later hands and insert are fixable for $4k - case is as most 60 year olds are. Dial 70% value of watch is great. Bracelet is fine and they are only $1k anyway. Mint one full set light use is $40-50k so anything around half that and it's a bargain!

SKYDIAMOND · 22 May 2022, 12:24 AM

wow! Paulsavidthorp, I really would have never guessed. The watch is was newly acquired. I've had people give values from 2500 - 25k. honestly if it was the latter I would consider letting it go to someone who would appreciate and understand the historic value more than myself. Its hard for me to see that value when I own an 18038, GMT II, and others that I would wear more often. But nonetheless it seems like it would make a great watch to add to my collection.

Thanks again for your opinions and sharing your knowledge of the watch.

20 May 2022, 03:01 AM	#5
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,504	Can't see on photo, but should be: 'OYSTER - PERPETUAL' not 'OYSTER PERPETUAL' On a 60/61 1675 gilt chapter. __________________ So the graduations hang on the wall, but they never really helped us at all, No they never taught us what was real, Iron and coke, chromium steel, And we're waiting here in Allentown.... ALLENTOWN - Billy Joel

21 May 2022, 08:54 AM	#11
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,904	I'm not sure about the context of the questions, and I think you will receive different comments depending on whether this is an heirloom vs. a potential purchase. Like most old watches, it has issues, but the dial is appealing, and many of the issues could be addressed to the extent you chose to do so. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

21 May 2022, 03:24 PM	#12
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,504	All about the price. Later hands and insert are fixable for $4k - case is as most 60 year olds are. Dial 70% value of watch is great. Bracelet is fine and they are only $1k anyway. Mint one full set light use is $40-50k so anything around half that and it's a bargain! __________________ So the graduations hang on the wall, but they never really helped us at all, No they never taught us what was real, Iron and coke, chromium steel, And we're waiting here in Allentown.... ALLENTOWN - Billy Joel

19 May 2022, 05:37 AM	#2
SKYDIAMOND "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: New York Posts: 5	Thanks in advance

19 May 2022, 05:58 AM	#3
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,153	Repost in vintage with much better and closer pics of the dial. I do not think the bezel or 24h hand are right. Case is soft, but an incredible watch imho, chapter ring dials are killer. Good luck w it.

20 May 2022, 02:49 AM	#4
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	Only thing one can say for sure is that it’s been massively over polished over the years. Crown guards practically stick our father than crown and end of spring bar protrudes beyond lug hole.

21 May 2022, 02:50 AM	#6
SKYDIAMOND "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: New York Posts: 5	yes definitely over polished. the pin isn't correct either, I think that's why its protruding. dial says " Oyster - Perpetual "

21 May 2022, 03:49 AM	#8
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,589	. Better picture. Helps when this happens.

21 May 2022, 08:19 AM	#9
donq "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dallas tx Watch: 16610,1675,16030 Posts: 1,135	Any 4 Digit Rolex sports model is collectible. Like all collectibles condition is key. This one has some issues, but they can be corrected. Cases can be welded up and recut to restore the proper shape, but it’s not cheap and the watch will never be original. It’s like having a vintage sports car with the original paint vs. a repainted one. It might be worth more, but aside from the hardcore collectors, it’s not going to effect the enjoyment of owning it. I would just wear it and enjoy it for what it is. If you are thinking about buying it, don’t pay too dollar though…

21 May 2022, 08:45 AM	#10
Nick9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ontario Posts: 372	That looks like a desirable US made oval link Jubilee bracelet. Good looking watch, in my book.

22 May 2022, 12:24 AM	#13
SKYDIAMOND "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: New York Posts: 5	wow! Paulsavidthorp, I really would have never guessed. The watch is was newly acquired. I've had people give values from 2500 - 25k. honestly if it was the latter I would consider letting it go to someone who would appreciate and understand the historic value more than myself. Its hard for me to see that value when I own an 18038, GMT II, and others that I would wear more often. But nonetheless it seems like it would make a great watch to add to my collection. Thanks again for your opinions and sharing your knowledge of the watch.

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