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Old 18 September 2017, 01:51 AM   #1
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Gorgeous piece. Correct me if I'm wrong but the size looks similar to the 233 with the dome sapphire. If so, it's like 17mm in height. How does it wear? Any issues slipping it under a shirt cuff?


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Old 17 September 2017, 01:01 AM   #2
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I have only collected Rolex until one day recently I traded and received a PAM 111. My only regret is why I never got one sooner. That said, when I had to choose the other day between a new 233 with a marginal discount of 4% and a new DJ41 rhodium diamond dial on a jubilee for 15% off, I went with Rolex. But for sure if the right PAM comes up for the right price I would be all over it.




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Old 17 September 2017, 01:05 AM   #3
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How many Rolex collectors own a Panerai?

I have a pam005.. still wear mine in rotation.

Bought it not because of group cult calling but because of the design that makes it a must have on a collection in my opinion.

Also rolex and Panerai has a historically rich background.
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Old 17 September 2017, 01:21 AM   #4
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Yes, own and love both.

I bought one because I loved the design and feel, not because of fads. Maybe that's why I still wear mine six years after buying it.
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Old 17 September 2017, 01:21 AM   #5
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Yes, own and love both.

I bought one because I loved the design and feel, not because of fads. Maybe that's why I still wear mine six years after buying it.
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Old 17 September 2017, 01:46 AM   #6
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I originally bought a 40mm PAM 48 in the early 2000s as my first non-beater watch. Since then I've flipped a large number of 44mm PAMs, but still wear my original one in rotation with my Pepsi GMT several times a week.

The 40mm ones may not be popular on some forums, but in real life its nice to have a cool watch that fits perfectly. I agree with the notion that PAM is the ultimate strap watch, while Rolex is my favorite bracelet watch.
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Old 19 November 2017, 02:49 PM   #7
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I originally bought a 40mm PAM 48 in the early 2000s as my first non-beater watch. Since then I've flipped a large number of 44mm PAMs, but still wear my original one in rotation with my Pepsi GMT several times a week.

The 40mm ones may not be popular on some forums, but in real life its nice to have a cool watch that fits perfectly. I agree with the notion that PAM is the ultimate strap watch, while Rolex is my favorite bracelet watch.
I agree. I purchased a PAM310 (40mm) in 2010. I've since purchased a bunch or Rolex's but the 310 still gets wrist time on rotation. I like that it's substantially different from a Rolex and looks good on rubber or leather. I like the Rolex's on their bracelets.
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Old 17 September 2017, 02:16 AM   #8
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I also had a 40mm Pam, a chrono (PAM 74) with the zenith movement. Really great watch, but I sold it to fund another watch. Wish I still had it.

I'd love a 177 or possibly 111, but every time I try one on, my teenage daughter tells me it looks outrageously big on me (5'5" with 6.5" wrists). I generally listen to her fashion advice, so haven't bit the bullet yet. She also tells me I shouldn't wear cargo pants... damn kids.
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Old 18 September 2017, 12:46 AM   #9
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I also had a 40mm Pam, a chrono (PAM 74) with the zenith movement. Really great watch, but I sold it to fund another watch. Wish I still had it.

I'd love a 177 or possibly 111, but every time I try one on, my teenage daughter tells me it looks outrageously big on me (5'5" with 6.5" wrists). I generally listen to her fashion advice, so haven't bit the bullet yet. She also tells me I shouldn't wear cargo pants... damn kids.


Kids tell it like they see it. The only thing that's really holding me back from pulling the trigger is my puny wrist too but I'm 6 feet tall so maybe I might be able to wing it?


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Old 18 September 2017, 03:33 AM   #10
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Kids tell it like they see it. The only thing that's really holding me back from pulling the trigger is my puny wrist too but I'm 6 feet tall so maybe I might be able to wing it?


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I think if you are tall, you should be able to get away with it.
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Old 17 September 2017, 04:13 AM   #11
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i'm a panerai collector that own a rolex lol
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Old 17 September 2017, 04:20 AM   #12
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i'm a panerai collector that own a rolex lol
That sounds right.

I own more Panerai than Rolex. I always find it funny when people say they got out of Panerai because of the big watch trend fading. Has it? Brands like Rolex continue to release more big pieces.
Also, for me a watch is style not fashion, so I don't lend "trends" dictate what I like
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Old 18 September 2017, 04:10 AM   #13
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That sounds right.

I own more Panerai than Rolex. I always find it funny when people say they got out of Panerai because of the big watch trend fading. Has it? Brands like Rolex continue to release more big pieces.
Also, for me a watch is style not fashion, so I don't lend "trends" dictate what I like
Yes - history is not fashion either. Traditionally Pans have always been 47mm right from way back when they were first issued to the Italian Navy


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Old 18 September 2017, 06:33 AM   #14
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Yes - history is not fashion either. Traditionally Pans have always been 47mm right from way back when they were first issued to the Italian Navy


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I think Panerai are one of the few brands that have a right to be large - as you say, it's part of the DNA of the brand. The affectation would be if they made them small. Distinguish this from brands that are just making large watches to be fashionable.
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Old 20 September 2017, 11:02 AM   #15
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To be honest, I bought a 111 a couple years ago and it has nearly replaced my sub. I am not normally attracted to large watches, but this just seems perfect; now my sub feels too small
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Old 20 September 2017, 11:25 AM   #16
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PAMs hold no interest for me. I have a bunch of Rolexes and a number of other brands but would not own a Panerai. While I like big watches, PAMs seem to wear too big for me. I'm also not crazy about the faces.
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I added my very first Panerai just a month or so ago. I was captivated by the beauty of the sunburst sandwich dial. I've worn it the past week for holidays in Italy.... I LOVE this piece and could care less if folks think 47mm is too big. Panerai are meant to be bold.

I also like the simplicity of the dial and that they are so easy to read.

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Yep, and I wear it once every couple weeks, usually on a Saturday where me and my wife are going out and she wants to easily be able to see the time on my wrist. It's a 61D (which glows like nothing I've ever seen, ever), and it's fine, but I'd be ok if someone stopped me on the street and offered me a fair deal in cash for it. I wear Rolex most of the time.
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Old 17 September 2017, 07:00 AM   #21
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I wouldn't call myself a collector but I hope to add a panerai soon
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Old 17 September 2017, 08:45 AM   #22
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359, 689 and 737. When I'm in Singapore and not travelling on a job, my watches get worn on a weekly rotation. My Sub LVc and PAM 359 are the naughty ones and have a habit of sneaking an extra week or two on the wrist.

I really couldn't care less what anyone thinks about the 'big watch' thing. They're awesome pieces with incredible wrist presence and I can't think of a better place to start than a 233. If you're thinking of returning to the brand, JFDI. You'll wonder why you've been away so long
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Old 17 September 2017, 10:47 AM   #23
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Old 17 September 2017, 10:58 AM   #24
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How many Rolex collectors own a Panerai?

I've been collecting Rolex for 10 years and have been bitten by the Panerai bug. I have 6 Rolex's in my collection, 3 Tudors, an Omega and 2 Pams. At present my two Pams (a 111 and a 372) get about 40% of my wrist time. They just have a unique and appealing aesthetic - rugged and stylish at the same time. But sometimes the size can become tiring. I know then it's time to wear my 36mm Datejust !








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Old 17 September 2017, 02:43 PM   #26
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Panerai are taking over my collection, down to just two Rolex... may get rid of the BLNR soon, I like big watches... and "I buy what I like"...I only have one person to please, and that's ME...
so what other people think doesn't worry me, let 'em buy whatever they like...good luck to them...
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Old 18 September 2017, 12:52 AM   #27
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Here are a few wrist shots of the Panerais from before.
PAM 177

PAM 372
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PAM 380

You guys still think I can pull off a PAM 233?


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I started my watch obsession with Panerai, still enjoy them.
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Rolex Sub, Pan 673 & 2 Omegas...(only 1 in photo)
Looking to trade/sell the Omegas to fund more Rolex & poss 1 more Pan..

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Rolex Sub, Pan 673 & 2 Omegas...(only 1 in photo)
Looking to trade/sell the Omegas to fund more Rolex & poss 1 more Pan..


Really nice trio! I like the 300 on that strap better than on the OEM bracelet.
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