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Simon29 · 25 April 2019, 10:14 PM

Hi all!

I was hoping with some help as to your thoughts on whether this Submariner date is authentic or not? Seller is interstate but prefers pick-up in person (which is a good sign I guess), so if I did proceed I would either make the trip there or have a good friend who lives there make the transaction for me.

He says it was given as a gift in 2016.

Thank you for any help and please let me know if I should be requesting any additional specific pictures / info!

Simon29 · 26 April 2019, 08:20 AM

So after doing some research after posting this, the fact that I thought something was off seems to be true. I see that the serial number is one that is commonly used in replicas and doesn’t match with the story in terms of model / purchase date. Plus some other things look a bit off.

I’m staying away! If it’s too good to be true it almost always is I guess!

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pandrew6l · 26 April 2019, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon29

So after doing some research after posting this, the fact that I thought something was off seems to be true. I see that the serial number is one that is commonly used in replicas and doesn’t match with the story in terms of model / purchase date. Plus some other things look a bit off.

I’m staying away! If it’s too good to be true it almost always is I guess!

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Agreed 100 %

Tools · 26 April 2019, 12:04 PM

You have made a wise decision.

77T · 26 April 2019, 12:45 PM

It’s entirely possible the seller was gifted the fake Sub - but glad you won’t be the 2nd victim.

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Simon29 · 26 April 2019, 01:22 PM

Thanks all :)

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kirikenz · 26 April 2019, 02:13 PM

Yeah, there are a few other tells with this one. Glad the serial confirmed it.

offrdmania · 26 April 2019, 02:30 PM

The clasp code confirms it too

thesharkfactor · 26 April 2019, 08:45 PM

Just one glance at the closed crown guards and stumpy hour hand tells me this is FAKE.

007timer · 29 April 2019, 12:10 PM

Fake.

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Cl_77 · 30 April 2019, 08:59 AM

Fake

socalwatchcollector · 30 April 2019, 10:26 PM

Junker, run away!

GLADIATOR · 1 May 2019, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon29

So after doing some research after posting this, the fact that I thought something was off seems to be true. I see that the serial number is one that is commonly used in replicas and doesn’t match with the story in terms of model / purchase date. Plus some other things look a bit off.

I’m staying away! If it’s too good to be true it almost always is I guess!

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yep. Known fake serial number used in multiple sports models
Well researched
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mikester · 1 May 2019, 08:38 AM

Fake.. Good catch! They won't have two warranties.

SlideRacker · 1 May 2019, 10:37 AM

Yeah. This one is easy to spot.

Gtecko · 1 May 2019, 10:13 PM

Well done, the claps as well is give away, I found the cyclops to be off too but man oh man, the fakes are popping up more and more, good for you !
and you know what, he probably knew it was fake and selling it ftf only makes the buyer feel more confident ...

Cl_77 · 18 May 2019, 11:21 AM

Fake

Onikage · 18 May 2019, 12:12 PM

Box interior is also appalling. What a POS (both watch and seller)

blada4life · 18 May 2019, 12:16 PM

The rehaut doesn’t seem to line up properly with hour markers and the card looks off to me. Almost too light and font. Also since when is there a paper guarantee for this model year. They started making the cards to replace them. I can see why in person, cash exchange and no further contact info. Be careful

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blada4life · 18 May 2019, 04:23 PM

Also this watch has a perfect crown. Right side up. We know that almost never happens lol

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watchnut100 · 18 May 2019, 06:35 PM

And the warranty card has a white sticker over it where model and serial number are, probably hiding another serial number underneath

blada4life · 19 May 2019, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by watchnut100

And the warranty card has a white sticker over it where model and serial number are, probably hiding another serial number underneath

Just noticed it when I zoomed in. Wow. Pure garbage.

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hbombkid · 19 May 2019, 12:38 PM

Ask to meet at a police station see what they do since this is obviously fake.

26 April 2019, 12:04 PM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,033	You have made a wise decision. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

26 April 2019, 12:45 PM	#5
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,673	It’s entirely possible the seller was gifted the fake Sub - but glad you won’t be the 2nd victim. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

26 April 2019, 02:30 PM	#8
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,832	The clasp code confirms it too __________________ TRF Member 11738

18 May 2019, 12:12 PM	#18
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	Box interior is also appalling. What a POS (both watch and seller) __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

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26 April 2019, 08:20 AM	#2
Simon29 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 18	So after doing some research after posting this, the fact that I thought something was off seems to be true. I see that the serial number is one that is commonly used in replicas and doesn’t match with the story in terms of model / purchase date. Plus some other things look a bit off. I’m staying away! If it’s too good to be true it almost always is I guess! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 April 2019, 01:22 PM	#6
Simon29 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 18	Thanks all :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 April 2019, 02:13 PM	#7
kirikenz "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Boston Watch: DJ 16234 Posts: 65	Yeah, there are a few other tells with this one. Glad the serial confirmed it.

26 April 2019, 08:45 PM	#9
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,485	Just one glance at the closed crown guards and stumpy hour hand tells me this is FAKE.

29 April 2019, 12:10 PM	#10
007timer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: US Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,383	Fake. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 April 2019, 08:59 AM	#11
Cl_77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 18	Fake

30 April 2019, 10:26 PM	#12
socalwatchcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: John Location: newport beach Watch: Pateks Plural Posts: 1,621	Junker, run away!

1 May 2019, 08:38 AM	#14
mikester "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,331	Fake.. Good catch! They won't have two warranties.

1 May 2019, 10:37 AM	#15
SlideRacker "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Orange County, CA Watch: 116500LN Black Posts: 559	Yeah. This one is easy to spot.

1 May 2019, 10:13 PM	#16
Gtecko "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Halifax Posts: 518	Well done, the claps as well is give away, I found the cyclops to be off too but man oh man, the fakes are popping up more and more, good for you ! and you know what, he probably knew it was fake and selling it ftf only makes the buyer feel more confident ...

18 May 2019, 11:21 AM	#17
Cl_77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 18	Fake

18 May 2019, 12:16 PM	#19
blada4life "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,036	The rehaut doesn’t seem to line up properly with hour markers and the card looks off to me. Almost too light and font. Also since when is there a paper guarantee for this model year. They started making the cards to replace them. I can see why in person, cash exchange and no further contact info. Be careful Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 May 2019, 04:23 PM	#20
blada4life "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,036	Also this watch has a perfect crown. Right side up. We know that almost never happens lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 May 2019, 06:35 PM	#21
watchnut100 SCUMBAG Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: uk Posts: 341	And the warranty card has a white sticker over it where model and serial number are, probably hiding another serial number underneath

19 May 2019, 12:38 PM	#23
hbombkid "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: VA Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 1,082	Ask to meet at a police station see what they do since this is obviously fake.

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