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23 October 2021, 09:15 PM | #31 |
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Getting onto the wish list doesn't mean you will get the watch eventually, guess this is the most frustrating thing at the moment.
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23 October 2021, 09:21 PM | #32 |
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23 October 2021, 10:04 PM | #34 |
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All depends on the person you are dealing with at Goldsmiths in my experience. I crossed paths with a few muppets before the manager stepped in and he was fantastic. Got me my BLNR within 2 months after being told by his SA’s that it was a 5 year wait. Sadly he left so thank god I’m not in the market for a new Rolex, the thought of begging them for one gives me anxiety lol
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There are hundreds, if not thousands, of variations of this thread on watch forums all over the world and there are similar responses to all these threads. Some positive and some negative, but all similar outcomes.
Go grey it’s cheaper in the long run. I’m not playing the game. You’ve got to play the game. I got lucky and got one with no previous history. Rolex need to double their production to satisfy their customers demands. Rolex will never double their production to satisfy their customers demands as they will destroy the market. I bought ‘this’ and ‘this’ and I eventually got one. I can’t afford to buy ‘this’ and ‘this’ to get one. Give up fella as AD’s sell them out the back door to greys so you’re wasting your time. My AD is genuine and only sells to genuine long standing clients and would never sell to the greys. My AD told me he only get 1 Daytona every 12th full moon when the full moons on a Wednesday. My AD gets 8 Daytona’s a week! Buy Tudor/Omega/Breitling. I don’t want Tudor/Omega/Breitling. Give them a back hander. I’ve been waiting 8 years for the call, my AD said I’m next. I didn’t answer the phone and when I called back the AD had sold it to the next customer. I spent hours smoozing my SA, now they’ve left the AD and I’m back to square one. Rolex are destroying their brand. It’s my 70th wedding anniversary and I want his and hers Daytona’s. It’s my graduation present to myself. I’ve a birthday this year. Etc etc and there’s loads more I’ve missed off. Reality is do some leg work and go round and try to get your name down. Accept it may or may not happen. Also accept that for every 1 SS professional Rolex right now there are 20 or 30, or 100 people wanting it. So why would they sell to you, an unknown person to them? Accept that you may need to buy other things to become known to them. If you can’t afford it or don’t want to, then that’s fine, but just be aware the other 19,29 or 99 might just do that. After all AD’s tend to sell other things apart from Rolex watches and they are a business. Most of all, don’t let it be an obsession as life really is too short. |
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Best advice OP is avoid the chains for now. They do have massive buying power but they have huge lists and they change the rules. Find yourself a nice independent that you actually like when you walk In. Even better if that independent have a few other stores with other brands. The explorer should come your way within 12-18 months although you picked a time to get into it when there is heightened demand for the explorer with its new release. |
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Please see my original reply to you on page 1.
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Find a good smaller scale independent chain, who are as good as their word and stick with them. I spend with one AD where I feel if I am on a waiting list they will actually produce the goods within a reasonable timescale. With Watches of Switzerland Group being on a waiting list guarantees nothing, and unfortunately is something they use to get rid of people they have no intention of selling too. It would be better if they were honest upfront and not waste people's time. And with WOS Group I would not even trust them to get me the watch I want even if I did spend on other stuff I don't want. No good for a long term relationship, unless you're a flipper. Can't be trusted, too many sales assistants and too many customers to get a personal service. But maybe when the pandemic is over and things to return to normal they will be a better choice, -because they are hard to avoid. Hugely, profitable at the moment, unsurprisingly. It is the future of the independent ADs I'm more worried about. Thought of having to use WOS Group and no other choices is not good. |
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But prestons on that list too, they ain’t selling anyone anything to anyone on a list
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24 October 2021, 02:15 AM | #41 | |
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They have got me the watches my wife and I wanted without any issue, they have got watches in for me to try and have never complained when I turned the watch down. I will only buy my Rolex from this store because they give such good service. There are always two sides to a story.
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24 October 2021, 02:47 AM | #42 | |
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24 October 2021, 03:25 AM | #43 | |
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Certainly, the leaked WOS group sales matrix, which I think is genuine, states you will not be sold a Rolex without purchase history first. And that was what I was told by a sales assistant who seemed to be trying to do me a favour rather than waste my time. Manager also confirmed that, at least in this time of shortages. When the world returns to normal I suppose you will be able to just walk in off the street and buy what you want. But just to add. Read the online reviews for WOS Group shops. Non Rolex purchases even. They are appalling. Especially for shops that deal with luxury brands. And way way worse than those for independent Jewellers. Surprising, really. You would think high end brands would want high end customer service. Can't be doing the brands reputations any good. |
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I've said this in another thread, but after 53 years wearing my 1675 GMT Master I wanted to 'retire' it and buy another, current, Pepsi GMT to see out the rest of my days. But then I encountered Goldsmiths - the only AD in my part of the country. To cut a long story short I decided not to play their game and I quit Rolex and bought an Omega Speedmaster (Master Chronometer) from Beaverbrook's Omega Boutique, to become my new daily watch. I won't buy anything from Goldsmith's again. I'm delighted with the Speedy and am quite happy to just bring out my vintage GMT on special occasions.
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Rolex really should be sending ADs that are also Omega, Panerai and TAG dealers a demand letter for commission on all the sales The sales they’ve helped generate for those brands.
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Go to a different AD.
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There are always two sides to a story - there is also someone who has had crap service from Bluewater Mappin & Webb. As an example, ask the manager there for a GMT. Ask him how long it’ll take him to get one for you, despite your couple of previous purchases from him. |
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I went into my local Goldsmiths in Bristol on Friday where I’ve been on the waiting list for a Sub ND for 3.5 months. I’ve got no purchase history but popped in for a chat. Got a really helpful assistant who I believe was dead straight with me. She told me the sub is on a list which due to the used price being so high, they’re not selling these models to people who have no purchase history because they have no idea if the watch is being bought to flip.
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The store has looked after me very well, I picked up my Submariner 124060 within 3 weeks of the launch, how did I managed that as I'm no VIP just Joe Average with a love of watches. If I wanted a GMT I would be able to get one, how long would it take, a while, it is a popular watch, but I know that it will be a wait so no surprises there. The biggest compliment I can give the store is their honesty, I can get any watch I want it will just take time, so do I want the Daytona well I can have one, but I'll have to wait, a good few years. I'm a realist, I don't expect to get a popular watch by picking it out of the display, I understand that demand is massively outstripping supply and that I'll have to wait, the more popular the watch the longer the wait and the store has been upfront on telling me that, this is why I like the store, no bull sh!t. Others may have a different view, that's fine as what works for me doesn't necessarily work for others.
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