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24 October 2021, 09:31 AM | #61 | |
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Certainly you can appreciate that they prioritize buying customers. They would be silly to piss off loyal customers.
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24 October 2021, 10:46 AM | #62 |
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24 October 2021, 04:28 PM | #63 |
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24 October 2021, 05:34 PM | #64 | |
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24 October 2021, 05:38 PM | #65 | |
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The Leeds branch doesn't stock Rolex anymore so I went to the Meadowhall branch wearing my black GMT id bought from them years ago and explained that I wanted the Rose gold bi-metal GMT. She said due to my previous history they would be able to add me to the list although after 4 months I've still not hear anything. Now I would consider myself a steady customer with them and the fact I still have the watches purchased from them would prove I'm not flipping. A customer that comes back every 2-3 years to buy another watch should be respected and lets be honest until recently people like me would have been considered a good customer. I'll wait and see if they get my what I asked for and how long it takes but it wasn't as if I walked in asking for a Daytona and feel they should be able to supply watches like that to customers like me without any issues |
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24 October 2021, 06:11 PM | #66 |
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I recently went into goldsmiths and asked to go on the list for an explorer 36.
Ended up having an ‘interview’ about my work, kids, hobbies etc, as ‘Rolex want to make sure of the types of people they sell to’ Won’t be using Goldsmiths again (even though I have history with them). |
24 October 2021, 06:17 PM | #67 |
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Go grey, pay the going rate, same as most of us have to if you want the watch now.
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24 October 2021, 06:21 PM | #68 | |
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Selling a hawt Rolex to a “one and done” buyer would be considered a waste of precious resources. They must reserve those references for those who have bought and will show a proclivity to buy more…and more and more. The SA told you the hard truth of the current market. “Popping in and having a chat” isn’t going to get it done (especially at GS/WOS) along with the vast majority of AD’s. You’re just wasting your time (and the SA). You may have a shot at a small independent, but Rolex is actively phasing these types of AD out, so be careful if they ask for deposits..etc. |
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24 October 2021, 06:28 PM | #69 | |
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Are you upset because Rolex has a particular demographic they prefer to sell to, or because you were asked in that particular manner? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 October 2021, 06:30 PM | #70 | |
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More generally - with a big chain it's inadvisable to brand the whole organisation because of one branch, due to the inevitable variability of staff and demographics. My local Godlsmiths are a top team of people. Always have been. They don't sell Rolex any more though. |
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24 October 2021, 08:33 PM | #71 | |
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At least you got to the stage of updating your bio ,,, That’s the “ rules of engagement “ at the moment, Quite a few people on here that haven’t even been asked for a bio just a “ flat” sorry,, no previous spends response ,, If transparency helps get the watches we want then so be it but admittedly it’s does seem rather ridiculous that all this is needed to just buy a watch,,, |
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24 October 2021, 09:36 PM | #72 |
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Tbh it was the fact they were asking at all. It was quite personal information, that really they have no right asking about in a retail context
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24 October 2021, 09:37 PM | #73 | |
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24 October 2021, 09:54 PM | #74 | |
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I work for a prestige motor dealer and we now have to carry out checks on customers to make sure that we're satisfied that they aren't going to sell their new vehicle at a premium within 12 months of purchase. If a vehicle does turn up on the market and the manufacturer is not satisfied that we have carried out our due diligence checks thoroughly then they can impose a fine of upto £20,000 per vehicle. It's a load of b******s IMO but maybe Rolex do something similar. |
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24 October 2021, 10:45 PM | #77 |
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Another aspect of this that irks me slightly is that every day in my newspaper there is a full-page Watches of Switzerland group advertisement for Rolex, often featuring a GMT Master or Daytona. The mere fact that these advertisements are constantly posted implies to the casual reader that these watches are actually available to buy. The advertising must be expensive, so I can only surmise that some marketing executive reckons its worthwhile, but why stimulate a market that is already overpopulated with buyers?
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24 October 2021, 11:05 PM | #78 | |
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Rolex is successful because of their consistency in marketing. Good sales, bad sales the message is the same. A Rolex watch deserves a full page advertisement, regardless of reference. And they do not put up more subs, Daytona or GMT ads even if that is what you perceive. It is not just ‘some marketing executive’ at work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 October 2021, 11:34 PM | #79 | |
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24 October 2021, 11:57 PM | #80 | |
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They feature Rolex because co-op marketing programs will reimburse WOS for a portion of the media buy. So, Rolex is reinforcing brand awareness and supporting their retail partners. |
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25 October 2021, 12:57 AM | #81 | |
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25 October 2021, 07:59 AM | #83 |
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25 October 2021, 09:08 AM | #84 | |
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Companies who are good at marketing don't throw stuff to see what sticks. They know cost/benefit ratios, return on investment numbers and have a scientific approach to the whole area. Rolex is a company which is good at marketing. They are one of those companies who are so good at it, there is a danger of onlookers thinking it is easy. |
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25 October 2021, 10:16 AM | #85 |
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If you go the AD route - DJ41 is the one to go for if you wanna build your purchase history, you may still have to wait for this but you probably would lose hardly anything when you sell it
If you go down the gray dealer route - I'd just monitor the prices as there are many models that are going up & up. There are some models which are overpriced as to what they may be worth in a few months time but chances are if you buy the watch you want, keep it in good condition you may make a profit if you do sell it in a few years. And obviously avoid the game that the AD is playing |
25 October 2021, 10:12 PM | #86 | |
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I'm on the list at Goldsmiths and an independent AD at the moment. Goldsmiths were pretty dismissive TBH, and I have bought a Speedy from the independent so more chance there I think, although I was fairly hard on the price with them. |
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25 October 2021, 10:22 PM | #87 | |
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25 October 2021, 10:48 PM | #88 | |
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I agree that people don't have to give their information, I said so above. Goldsmiths etc are using legitimate interests as their reason for processing the data, not consent. That requires a balancing test of the rights of the data subject against the rights of the company. They also need to make sure that their use of data is adequate, relevant and limited to only what is necessary. I'm not at all sure, if pushed, they could satisfy the above, especially if, as said above, they are asking for details of people's families. At best they are pushing the limits. Notice I never said they were directly in breach though. |
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25 October 2021, 10:52 PM | #89 |
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The daft thing is despite this selection process I would say that the recent sales of Rolex to greys has accelerated considerably here in th UK. I quickly counted 19 unworn Sept/Oct 2021 LV Subs for sale today with little effort.
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26 October 2021, 12:22 AM | #90 |
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No you didn't. Point taken.
They are being bloody cheeky and I wouldn't put up with that kind of interrogation. It kind of tracks the noise coming from the opposite direction if you think about it. How so? Well, I'll try to explain it as I see it: Post after post on here along the lines of "how do I build a relationship?" A silly question, since these things evolve naturally and are unique to each of us. But the YouTwitFacesphere want's everything now and believes everything is transactional. Is this how people now form relationships with other people? You fall in love when you get a peer approved value of something in return? Now Goldsmiths, or perhaps certain branches of Goldsmits are mining in the opposite direction. Never mind about gradually getting to know a repeat visitor, their likes and dislikes, their family, their job, their income, their significant anniversaries. Just tell me everything about you now. Infantile. The online community needs to be more like the real world. The opposite is happening. |
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