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Old 14 February 2020, 05:39 AM   #1
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Family Mystery- Tiffany and Co. Daytona

Hi all,

This was my grandfathers watch which I believe is a vintage 1967. Model number is : 6238 and serial number is: 1697086.

Been in a box for years. Does anyone have any information about this watch?

Thanks!
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:06 AM   #2
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It looks like a beautiful 6241. You sure you read the ref right? With the Tiffany logo this is a six figure piece.
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:12 AM   #3
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Beautiful!
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:25 AM   #4
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If the original paperwork is also in the box, that would be a huge bonus.
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:37 AM   #5
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I do not know too much about it, but last I heard this would be worth easy 6 figures to the right buyer.
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:39 AM   #6
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Beautiful watch, more pics please
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:48 AM   #7
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Love threads like this (well when more photos and info is forthcoming)
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:49 AM   #8
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Anyway - OP IMPORTANT ADVICE - don't polish it or try to clean it up, don't take it to a Rolex service center, don't take it to a pawn shop. Wait for advice here and then figure out a plan. Little mistakes can really hurt the value of a watch.
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:52 AM   #9
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Hmmmm .... doesn't seem like much of a "Family Mystery." You seem to have all of the information you need.

What are you asking exactly? Do you just want to know how much it's worth? (This is not the place for that.)
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:57 AM   #10
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Family Mystery- Tiffany and Co. Daytona

In 1962 Rolex launched the 6238 without “Daytona” on the dial. So if this was engraved 6238 on the case, then maybe the dial has been replaced with a newer one? Maybe from a 6239...

Can’t be a 6240 since it had screw down pushers.

And that T SWISS T at 6? Somewhere it seems higher than it should be...

I’m just saying it’s a little funny....

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Old 14 February 2020, 08:14 AM   #11
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In 1962 Rolex launched the 6238 without “Daytona” on the dial. So if this was engraved 6238 on the case, then maybe the dial has been replaced with a newer one? Maybe from a 6239...

Can’t be a 6240 since it had screw down pushers.

And that T SWISS T at 6? Somewhere it seems higher than it should be...

I’m just saying it’s a little funny....

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I have never looked at Daytona's to be honest but the limited search I did, looks like you are correct to question. Maybe a 6239?

6238:
https://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/p...ronograph-6238

6240:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/un...x-daytona-6240

Maybe a 6241?
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Old 14 February 2020, 08:39 AM   #12
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If that’s legit man that’s a hell of a watch....0
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Old 14 February 2020, 10:43 AM   #13
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Why not visit your nearest RSC and ask for a service quote?
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Old 14 February 2020, 11:06 AM   #14
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Why not visit your nearest RSC and ask for a service quote?
These days that will cost you, especially for a watch of this age.
To the OP - they will want to authenticate the watch before they will commit to doing anything. The authentication will be refunded if you decide to use RSC, not that I would advise you do that with that beautiful watch! Look for a vintage specialist. Rolex will want it looking like new with all new parts! All new parts = significantly reduced value. Way less… As you are located in Southern California, there are a number of great vintage specialists. LA watch Works (Search LAWW on this forum) in Pasadena, CA or Rolliworks in Campbell, CA near San Fran. If you hit up LAWW you can drive by the RSC in Beverly Hills and contemplate getting it authenticated.
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Old 14 February 2020, 11:18 AM   #15
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Jaw dropping.
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Old 14 February 2020, 11:22 AM   #16
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These days that will cost you, especially for a watch of this age.
To the OP - they will want to authenticate the watch before they will commit to doing anything. The authentication will be refunded if you decide to use RSC, not that I would advise you do that with that beautiful watch! Look for a vintage specialist. Rolex will want it looking like new with all new parts! All new parts = significantly reduced value. Way less… As you are located in Southern California, there are a number of great vintage specialists. LA watch Works (Search LAWW on this forum) in Pasadena, CA or Rolliworks in Campbell, CA near San Fran. If you hit up LAWW you can drive by the RSC in Beverly Hills and contemplate getting it authenticated.
Not according to the Rolex service centre in Australia.
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Old 14 February 2020, 11:26 AM   #17
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Not according to the Rolex service centre in Australia.
If only I had taken it to Australia! What the hell was I thinking!
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Old 14 February 2020, 12:41 PM   #18
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I have never looked at Daytona's to be honest but the limited search I did, looks like you are correct to question. Maybe a 6239?

6238:
https://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/p...ronograph-6238

6240:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/un...x-daytona-6240

Maybe a 6241?
As Per observed first in this thread its a 6241 imho. And its amazing. OP -please send more pics.
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Old 14 February 2020, 03:39 PM   #19
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As Per observed first in this thread its a 6241 imho. And its amazing. OP -please send more pics.


I think Per is right if all the parts are original. If the OP has read the case ref. # correctly, then maybe a 6241 dial on a 6238 chassis.

I also agree more pics would be good.


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Old 15 February 2020, 03:19 AM   #20
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Not according to the Rolex service centre in Australia.
USA RSCs charge for service estimates on vintage Rolex watches, with the estimate paperwork also serving, to a certain degree, as authentication.
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Old 15 February 2020, 08:15 AM   #21
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From what I understand if you take the watch into RSC with mismatched parts they will either reject it with the XXX stamp or require a full service and replacement of parts to correct ones for that model. so if the dial is from a later model then it might get held by the service center for that reason.

some will do this, some may not. So it's a gamble.
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Old 15 February 2020, 09:53 AM   #22
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Screw down pushers somewhere around 1965.
If bought in 1967 it sat in the display case awhile.
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Old 15 February 2020, 09:54 AM   #23
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So the op just drops this here and walks away?
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Old 15 February 2020, 09:56 AM   #24
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So the op just drops this here and walks away?
It is rather vexing, odd, and confounding.
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It's a very familiar tale with a quick exit by the OP. I never realized how often this happens. This is very similar to how I started my first post…
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Old 15 February 2020, 11:41 AM   #26
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Hi guys, sorry I haven’t responded sooner. It looks like the watch was actually made between ‘63 and ‘64. ( based on the serial number) I will try to get some more pictures uploaded ASAP. Thanks for all the feedback!
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Family Mystery- Tiffany and Co. Daytona

I think you can also trust us with the first 3 digits of that serial number.

And a good photo of the model number between the lugs.


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Old 15 February 2020, 10:38 PM   #29
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Hi guys, sorry I haven’t responded sooner. It looks like the watch was actually made between ‘63 and ‘64. ( based on the serial number) I will try to get some more pictures uploaded ASAP. Thanks for all the feedback!
Serial is from 1966.

Model wise it looks like a ref 6241. If it says 6238 between the lugs it means the dial and bezel are changed. Something not completely uncommon but would be worrying as this dial is Tiffany marked. It makes no sense to get a replacenent dial with that stamp.

I really hope it says 6241 between the lugs.

Do you know the story behind it? Maybe your relatives can confirm buying it from Tiffanys?
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Serial is from 1966.

Model wise it looks like a ref 6241. If it says 6238 between the lugs it means the dial and bezel are changed. Something not completely uncommon but would be worrying as this dial is Tiffany marked. It makes no sense to get a replacenent dial with that stamp.

I really hope it says 6241 between the lugs.

Do you know the story behind it? Maybe your relatives can confirm buying it from Tiffanys?
Hi Per,

According to oysterworld’s website, the serial number falls within the 1967 production year.

It was originally purchased from Tiffany’s and it has always been owned by our family.
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