Tudor snowflake

[rolexjc]

A guy is selling me this watch
your toughts guys about this one

[rolexjc]

Back

[linesiders]

Probably OK but the pictures kinda stink.

Not sure on the caseback, would like a better profile on the case on crownguards, hard to tell how polished.

Dial & insert look good as do hands (though maybe cracking and need stabilization)

[RLX-lvr]

All original Rolex/Tudor, not fake, if thats what your asking.

Has seen a few miles, nice insert.
Lume is degrading, lume in the hands have cracked.

7021/0 ? or early 9411/0

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by RLX-lvr

All original Rolex/Tudor, not fake, if thats what your asking.

Has seen a few miles, nice insert.
Lume is degrading, lume in the hands have cracked.

7021/0 ? or early 9411/0

I think you nailed it and I don't think it is Franken because the hardest parts to get on it (Dial, Fantastic Insert, Bezel, and Hands, are original Tudor). I just would like to see better photos to be comfortable saying so.

[Dan Pierce]

Looks legit but I would have the the lume stabilized and it probably needs a service.
dP

[rolexjc]

More pics

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[SLS]

Is the lug at 7:00 damaged or is it just the photos?

[drainaps]

Looks the part. Dial and insert OK. Case seems good too. A (good) couple of shots between the lugs would help clear the case, as I have a small doubt. The crown guards are too good IMHO for a case that has seen a long service.

[rolexfan777]

Nice vintage

[harry in montreal]

Looks ok to me. I can't tell if the dial or band are original. All else looks ok. The hands need adjustment. Note when the min hand is top dead center the hour is not in the right spot

[rolexjc]

It's here
Ref 7021/0 serial 73xxxx

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Front

[linesiders]

Nice!

Roulette datewheel, FFFFFFAT insert, Blue Flake - love it!

Get that lume taken care of

[WatchFeen]

most of the pics i see of vintage pieces are always missing the pearl - is this a common thing?

[Davvan]

1968/69 isch..... Awesome insert. The pearl come off due to....... age. Plastic degenerate and become brittle after 20+ years...crack and......gone

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by WatchFeen

most of the pics i see of vintage pieces are always missing the pearl - is this a common thing?

Yes - they come out fairly easy.

I recently picked up a rough insert with a good pearl just to get the pearl.

Perfectly normal to be missing the pearl. Service inserts can be picked up fairly cheap (<200 usd) but nice old inserts with a good patina pearl are relatively expensive (> 600-800 for 60s / 70s fat fonts)

Faded blue fat font snowflake inserts are more

Same insert with replaced pearl

[WatchFeen]

Originally Posted by linesiders

Yes - they come out fairly easy.

I recently picked up a rough insert with a good pearl just to get the pearl.

Perfectly normal to be missing the pearl. Service inserts can be picked up fairly cheap (<200 usd) but nice old inserts with a good patina pearl are relatively expensive (> 600-800 for 60s / 70s fat fonts)

i would pay the extra just for the better patina. Just looks so good. Has this since been improved with the modern pearls? I sure hope i dont lose mine down the road lol ...

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by WatchFeen

i would pay the extra just for the better patina. Just looks so good. Has this since been improved with the modern pearls? I sure hope i dont lose mine down the road lol ...

Would be safer with a luminous pearl from a service insert. Or you can get a after market one from ofrei for 25. Had one for a little bit but the green tint bugged me a bit

[rolexjc]

It has a small details at 11 minute mark and a kind of fine scratch between 6-7. Also the hour hand is slightly up at the end the hands dont' crash with each other because of that
The watch was all polished to shiny :( should I repolish the lugs?

[linesiders]

Send it to someone good for a service - you need to stabilize the lume on the hands - and maybe (maybe) have them brush the case a little to get out the overpolish - did I suggest maybe ??

[rolexjc]

Originally Posted by linesiders

Send it to someone good for a service - you need to stabilize the lume on the hands - and maybe (maybe) have them brush the case a little to get out the overpolish - did I suggest maybe ??

Thank you for suggestions and comments I appreciated them

[rolexjc]

Originally Posted by linesiders

Send it to someone good for a service - you need to stabilize the lume on the hands - and maybe (maybe) have them brush the case a little to get out the overpolish - did I suggest maybe ??

I dont' know about how to stabilized the lume and if get a pearl how do I attatched to the bezel maybe a dot of glue?

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by rolexjc

I dont' know about how to stabilized the lume and if get a pearl how do I attatched to the bezel maybe a dot of glue?

Rikki or Jack @ IWW could likely stabilize lume - certainly work asking. You should not do it. I would not personally do it on anything I cared about but i would have an expert do it.

Pearl - use elmers or Hypo cement - not as permanent as superglue

[John in MA]

If your insert pearl hole isn't damaged a new one will snap right in. Place a smear of epoxy on the back side with the tip of a tooth pick to prevent it from falling out (I prefer that over Elmer's as it is more robust and just as easy to remove my using a knife on the back of the insert if needed). Shouldn't fall out but safe than sorry. I did that on mine. The 12 slot on the insert looks cracked but it actually ok. Had to replace the pearl and like linesiders picked up a fuggly black just for the pearl.

[rolexjc]

Originally Posted by John in MA

If your insert pearl hole isn't damaged a new one will snap right in. Place a smear of epoxy on the back side with the tip of a tooth pick to prevent it from falling out (I prefer that over Elmer's as it is more robust and just as easy to remove my using a knife on the back of the insert if needed). Shouldn't fall out but safe than sorry. I did that on mine. The 12 slot on the insert looks cracked but it actually ok. Had to replace the pearl and like linesiders picked up a fuggly black just for the pearl.

Thank you now I'll be checking ebay for a pearl

[rolexjc]

The watch has visible stain marks under the bezel should I clean them?