David SW BLNR Relaunch

[NYCWATCHCREW]

As many have noticed, all of the greys pulled all of their BLNR stock following Baselworld launch and disco of the old BLNR. David SW just relaunched a BLNR on his site for near 15K. Do you think these prices hold?

[Dr Watches]

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

[Juantxo]

Originally Posted by Dr Watches

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

I suspect some dealers use others for posting for them.

[NYCWATCHCREW]

Originally Posted by Dr Watches

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

In my opinion he is one of the key market makers for Rolex in the secondary market. With the level of respect he gets in running a sound business and volume of watches he moves, it is respect well earned.

[Likestheshiny]

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

1) A lot of folks find it interesting to see how the watch market responds to Rolex's decisions and practices.
2) DSW is a well-known grey dealer with a good reputation and an accessible website, and is therefore a good barometer of the industry as a whole.

Doesn't seem unreasonable. What's not to understand?

[johnny.tran1]

business as usual

[RichM]

What a difference two years make.

[THC]

find one locally is my answer... just because a grey charges the price, does not mean they are getting it

[Noah860]

Originally Posted by Dr Watches

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

I repeatedly miss the need for such attitude in a constructive post! Maybe talk to a doctor?

[Lemonvr6]

Originally Posted by Dr Watches

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

Nothing says “I don’t care” like getting mad

[Navarino]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

1) A lot of folks find it interesting to see how the watch market responds to Rolex's decisions and practices.
2) DSW is a well-known grey dealer with a good reputation and an accessible website, and is therefore a good barometer of the industry as a whole.

Doesn't seem unreasonable. What's not to understand?

Agree. Never purchased from him personally, but I was always under the impression his prices are pretty dialed in. I have never thought of his asking prices in the same vein as some of the ridiculous listings on chrono24 which cause people to react with "just because they're listed at X doesn't mean they sell for that price."

I do think we won't see the same insane premiums on the new BLNR once they roll out. Initial reception from what I have gathered here reading is that the demand being voiced to ADs is not has strong as what occurred after the BLRO announcement last year. If the new BLNR ends up being more available and selling at a lower premium it may have a slight negative impact on secondary prices for the original BLNR (e.g., would people really pay 15k for last gen's BLNR if the new current ones are only selling for something like 12k?).

This roll out will also be a bit different given the immediately preceding BLNR reference. My guess is there is a fair chance people who are willing to pay grey premiums already have a BLNR. This was not the case with the BLRO, as there was no ceramic bezel BLRO in SS prior to that model's launch last year.

[FTX I]

Some year ago when ss watches were easily attainable at ADs his prices used to be reference for discounts. Now he's reference for markup. No big deal.

[Tickerhound]

He's the best out there in my experience. Several deals with him, all flawless. The market sets the price of these pieces, like it or not.

[brandrea]

Some will buy at that price or close to it.

I think he and other trusted sellers here are a good proxy for what popular SS references are going for.

[dwjez14]

Originally Posted by robcorbe1

In my opinion he is one of the key market makers for Rolex in the secondary market. With the level of respect he gets in running a sound business and volume of watches he moves, it is respect well earned.

Agreed. Nothing but good things to say about davidsw. I just received my 3rd watch from him

[TickTockChuck]

Originally Posted by FTX I

Some year ago when ss watches were easily attainable at ADs his prices used to be reference for discounts. Now he's reference for markup. No big deal.

Indeed! Back in the day the Greys were the source for discounts to AD MSRP. Even ADs tried to sometimes reduce prices closer to Grey prices. Now it's all about big profits and greed unfortunately. At least ADs still supply at MSRP for the most part. How times have changed! Cheers!

[avidflyer]

Shocked he was that cheap

[crazycarlitos]

Originally Posted by Dr Watches

I don’t care. It’s his business what he charges. I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this guy.

No one is obsessed.... but he is one of the trusted sellers here based on his track record.

I can understand ur confusion because u have been here less than two months..

Op: we have seen this kind of price setting before.
The gray dealers are only testing the market price.
It may go down or it may go up later to reflect the latest market conditions

[jb335]

It's preowned with warranty card dated from 2017. Not a crazy jump in price to what he had before Basel. I believe he would have had this listed around 13.5k pre-Basel.....sound right?

[aleexxxxx]

Originally Posted by jb335

It's preowned with warranty card dated from 2017. Not a crazy jump in price to what he had before Basel. I believe he would have had this listed around 13.5k pre-Basel.....sound right?

Sounds about right

[SlideRacker]

Originally Posted by robcorbe1

In my opinion he is one of the key market makers for Rolex in the secondary market. With the level of respect he gets in running a sound business and volume of watches he moves, it is respect well earned.

Scary stuff when one independent dealer can dictate the entire market. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[rmlovett1]

Just business....
As a former business owner, I respect what he does, and he’s not only a good businessman, but he’s genuine. (At least in the experiences I’ve had with him) I’ve had a FTF transaction with him, as well as several online deals. He’s doing what most smart businessman should do...take what the market will give/bear, adjust accordingly

[Goin2drt]

Don’t buy them and they won’t command that stupid mark up. He is only playing the supply and demand game. People decide the price. As they say hate the game, not the player. If folks didn’t buy gray then you wouldn’t have this.

[dnpina]

I didnt want it at retail when it was offered to me 2 months ago. I won't want it at 5.5k above that either. This forum confuses me. Half of the time greys are evil for driving prices up on sought after SS Rolex. Then when you substitute "grey" with "trusted seller" it's perfectly fine. DavidSW is a fine business man and I've bought a Panerai from him. I hope he gets 15 out of that BLNR and I hope the new owner loves it.

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[HappyFish]

Many Members here in the forum suffer from cognitive dissonance - excuse themes!

Quod licet lovi, non licet bovi!

[79280_116520]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

Don’t buy them and they won’t command that stupid mark up. He is only playing the supply and demand game. People decide the price. As they say hate the game, not the player. If folks didn’t buy gray then you wouldn’t have this.

This isn't possible, especially with the recent NY Times article and droves of newbies with FOMO mentality.

[swils8610]

Free enterprise. I’m in for that. If you want it, buy it. If you don’t, then don’t. It’s a beautiful thing!


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[doboy007]

Originally Posted by jb335

It's preowned with warranty card dated from 2017. Not a crazy jump in price to what he had before Basel. I believe he would have had this listed around 13.5k pre-Basel.....sound right?

New ones were ~$14-14.5k depending on stickers before Basel so I would imagine about $2k jump or so.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by SlideRacker

Scary stuff when one independent dealer can dictate the entire market. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[exador]

All the other greys are around $15K for BNIB.

BLROs are holding steady at $17K.

Watch these prices tumble as more stock arrives this year.