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spinn74 · 28 March 2018, 11:48 PM

Can anyone explain what is happening with Rolex? The AD’s can’t get any SS sports models. It’s impossible to get a Daytona and will be the same for the SS BLRO unless you spend insane money at an AD. I won’t be able to get either watch. I’m about to write off the brand as I feel they are really screwing their customers. The BLRO is front and center on their website but you won’t be able to get one... disgrace!

beshannon · 28 March 2018, 11:54 PM

Hurting?

Such is the world of high end luxury jewelry. No one is forcing you to want it.

spinn74 · 28 March 2018, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Hurting?

Such is the world of high end luxury jewelry. No one is forcing you to want it.

Yes hurting. I can afford it and want it but you can’t get it. The production is almost at a stand still since last September

Old Expat Beast · 28 March 2018, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Hurting?

Such is the world of high end luxury jewelry. No one is forcing you to want it.

Rolex is doing its best to make us want it, but not supplying it. I think that's the point being made.

Muzz · 28 March 2018, 11:58 PM

Without Hype there would not be in the demand that there is. Personally this is they way it should be.

spinn74 · 29 March 2018, 12:01 AM

Yes but you have to be able to get them. Rolex is making it too hard. Daytona’s should not be going for $20k on the grey market

Ballzzz · 29 March 2018, 12:02 AM

Hurting = limiting production so when you actually find the watch you want you buy it faster then your wife's engagement ring! As much as I hate the current state of availability it is pure genius on many levels.

spinn74 · 29 March 2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Hurting = limiting production so when you actually find the watch you want you buy it faster then your wife's engagement ring! As much as I hate the current state of availability it is pure genius on many levels.

We would still want the watch if it was more available. Even if we knew it would take a year. But now impossible. If people turn away from Rolex is that genius?

ferrissteve11 · 29 March 2018, 12:04 AM

Its simply scarcity based economics. It works for luxury goods plain and simple.

HL65 · 29 March 2018, 12:05 AM

Here we go again....Waah

I want my watches and if I can’t have them I am leaving.

thomaswentworth · 29 March 2018, 12:05 AM

OP - Look up the definition of "hyperbole"

smohr33 · 29 March 2018, 12:06 AM

They are controlling supply, to manage a balance between demand and the value of their brand/products.

You can walk into an AD and purchase a datejust today, but not a daytona.

You can walk into a Porsche dealer and drive a cayenne home today, but not a manual GT3.

Two valuable and sought after brands, same principle applies. They must be doing something right...

Lemieux66 · 29 March 2018, 12:07 AM

How many more Daytonas would Rolex have to make and supply to bring the preowned price down by $1000? My guess would be...a lot. I can't see them upping output until there's another banking collapse.

And learn to love the more available models like the Datejust, they are not poor relations just not what the boys in the playground are scrambling over. No offence to anyone.

tyler1980 · 29 March 2018, 12:08 AM

they are obtainable from an AD, but its not easy...

Fleetlord · 29 March 2018, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spinn74

We would still want the watch if it was more available. Even if we knew it would take a year. But now impossible. If people turn away from Rolex is that genius?

Rolex will be just fine, even if you do turn away...

Turn that frustration into action. It isn't impossible to get these watches, otherwise there would be NONE anywhere at all.

Poker guy · 29 March 2018, 12:09 AM

Most of the Rolex owners appreciate that their watches hold their value. That is possible only if Rolex keeps the supply tight.

beshannon · 29 March 2018, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HL65

Here we go again....Waah

I want my watches and if I can’t have them I am leaving.

Exactly!

I have no idea how anyone is being "hurt"

Being hurt is having the price of your life saving medication raised by 500%!

Bigblu10 · 29 March 2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HL65

Here we go again....Waah

I want my watches and if I can’t have them I am leaving.

X2. And the OP has a Patek as his avatar!

pilotjim · 29 March 2018, 12:10 AM

Do you really think anyone at Rolex cares about you personally or about your feelings?

It's not really impossible to get anything.....you just have to be willing to pay.

spinn74 · 29 March 2018, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Poker guy

Most of the Rolex owners appreciate that their watches hold their value. That is possible only if Rolex keeps the supply tight.

I agree “tight” but right now it’s almost impossible. That’s the point. They may have gone too far.

Fleetlord · 29 March 2018, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemieux66

How many more Daytonas would Rolex have to make and supply to bring the preowned price down by $1000? My guess would be...a lot. I can't see them upping output until there's another banking collapse.

In order to lower the preowned price, Rolex will need to dramatically raise the retail price.

They did this with the previous Daytona 10yrs ago and it worked like a charm and snuffed out the flippers.

Retail was moved up to a stratospheric $12K. Preowned dropped down to $10K ish. That stuck for a long time, even after the recession.

spinn74 · 29 March 2018, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotjim

Do you really think anyone at Rolex cares about you personally or about your feelings?

It's not really impossible to get anything.....you just have to be willing to pay.

Did I say anything about that? I want to buy from an AD and that’s impossible as of now.

alex_moreno111 · 29 March 2018, 12:13 AM

This!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HL65

Here we go again....Waah

I want my watches and if I can’t have them I am leaving.

Fleetlord · 29 March 2018, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spinn74

Did I say anything about that? I want to buy from an AD and that’s impossible as of now.

Nah...just got to spread your wings or build a relationship.

You need to become someone they NEED to sell one to in order to retain your business..

PLNYC · 29 March 2018, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by spinn74

I agree “tight” but right now it’s almost impossible. That’s the point. They may have gone too far.

I'm sure a lot of people feel that way about your 5167.

Bigblu10 · 29 March 2018, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spinn74

Yes hurting. I can afford it and want it but you can’t get it. The production is almost at a stand still since last September

Pay to play. You can afford Patek, certainly you can afford to pay the grey market premium on a stainless Rolex. How bad do you want it on your wrist?

V25V · 29 March 2018, 12:15 AM

Who is "hurting" you are the AD's who sell to gray dealers with only the intention of selling them at 10-20% (or more) markups. Do not blame Rolex.

My .02.

Paul_I · 29 March 2018, 12:17 AM

Amazing thread.

jrs146 · 29 March 2018, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by spinn74

Yes hurting. I can afford it and want it but you can’t get it. The production is almost at a stand still since last September

With all due respect. You’re coming at this with a very strong sense of entitlement. Just because you have the funds available doesn’t make you able to purchase anything you want in life.

Now I’m not thrilled that supply is very low and it’s very hard to get hot watches. But I also don’t feel like Rolex is doing me harm and hurting me either.

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Chadridv · 29 March 2018, 12:18 AM

they're not hurting themselves, that's for sure.

28 March 2018, 11:48 PM	#1
spinn74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Dante Location: NJ Watch: 5167 Posts: 199	Rolex Hurting Everyone Can anyone explain what is happening with Rolex? The AD’s can’t get any SS sports models. It’s impossible to get a Daytona and will be the same for the SS BLRO unless you spend insane money at an AD. I won’t be able to get either watch. I’m about to write off the brand as I feel they are really screwing their customers. The BLRO is front and center on their website but you won’t be able to get one... disgrace!

28 March 2018, 11:54 PM	#2
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,895	Hurting? Such is the world of high end luxury jewelry. No one is forcing you to want it. __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

29 March 2018, 12:02 AM	#7
Ballzzz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NY Posts: 2,474	Hurting = limiting production so when you actually find the watch you want you buy it faster then your wife's engagement ring! As much as I hate the current state of availability it is pure genius on many levels. __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein

29 March 2018, 12:05 AM	#10
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,385	Here we go again....Waah I want my watches and if I can’t have them I am leaving. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

29 March 2018, 12:08 AM	#14
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	they are obtainable from an AD, but its not easy... __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

28 March 2018, 11:58 PM	#5
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	Without Hype there would not be in the demand that there is. Personally this is they way it should be.

29 March 2018, 12:01 AM	#6
spinn74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Dante Location: NJ Watch: 5167 Posts: 199	Yes but you have to be able to get them. Rolex is making it too hard. Daytona’s should not be going for $20k on the grey market

29 March 2018, 12:04 AM	#9
ferrissteve11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 1,115	Its simply scarcity based economics. It works for luxury goods plain and simple.

29 March 2018, 12:05 AM	#11
thomaswentworth Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Tom Wentworth Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116610 Sub Posts: 541	OP - Look up the definition of "hyperbole"

29 March 2018, 12:06 AM	#12
smohr33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Scott Location: New York Posts: 121	They are controlling supply, to manage a balance between demand and the value of their brand/products. You can walk into an AD and purchase a datejust today, but not a daytona. You can walk into a Porsche dealer and drive a cayenne home today, but not a manual GT3. Two valuable and sought after brands, same principle applies. They must be doing something right...

29 March 2018, 12:07 AM	#13
Lemieux66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Real Name: Greg Location: UK Watch: $10 Casio Posts: 521	How many more Daytonas would Rolex have to make and supply to bring the preowned price down by $1000? My guess would be...a lot. I can't see them upping output until there's another banking collapse. And learn to love the more available models like the Datejust, they are not poor relations just not what the boys in the playground are scrambling over. No offence to anyone.

29 March 2018, 12:09 AM	#16
Poker guy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Helsinki, Finland Watch: Sea Dweller 126600 Posts: 43	Most of the Rolex owners appreciate that their watches hold their value. That is possible only if Rolex keeps the supply tight. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 126600 Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Omega Speedmaster DSOTM Vintage Black Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15400 Blue SS

29 March 2018, 12:10 AM	#19
pilotjim "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: Mass Watch: BLNR Posts: 439	Do you really think anyone at Rolex cares about you personally or about your feelings? It's not really impossible to get anything.....you just have to be willing to pay. __________________ "Never attempt to dry a pet in your oven." LG Owner's Manual

29 March 2018, 12:15 AM	#27
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,340	Who is "hurting" you are the AD's who sell to gray dealers with only the intention of selling them at 10-20% (or more) markups. Do not blame Rolex. My .02.

29 March 2018, 12:17 AM	#28
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	Amazing thread. __________________

29 March 2018, 12:18 AM	#30
Chadridv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,343	they're not hurting themselves, that's for sure. __________________ - i͞n͟s͞t͟a͞g͞r͟a͞m͞ @ⓒⓄⓁⒹⓒⒶⓈⒺⓦⒶⒶⓉⒸⒽⒺⓈ

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