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crazymcmichael · 29 November 2020, 08:49 PM

Would this be an fair trade? 4500V/110A-B483 for me and a 114060+216570 for the other party? Would i be a fool to do this? Opinions?? Help?? I like the VC a lot.. It is still quite under the radar too..

Starwalker · 29 November 2020, 10:40 PM

No no no

huydoan · 30 November 2020, 12:10 AM

very bad idea ...

crazymcmichael · 30 November 2020, 12:42 AM

Thank you guys! Could you explain your thoughts? I thank you a lot))

Benzsiam · 30 November 2020, 12:51 AM

I think it's fair trade if all of the watches are in similar condition.

Nikrnic · 30 November 2020, 04:16 AM

I love my VCO however my Sub is pretty much my daily so that would be a hard one to give up for me. If you feel the numbers add up the Overseas will not dissapoint.

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supernova · 30 November 2020, 04:57 AM

I think that is a fair trade, both parties would do well if those are the watch(es) they desire.

I personally like the VC over those 2 Rolex.

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crazymcmichael · 30 November 2020, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I love my VCO however my Sub is pretty much my daily so that would be a hard one to give up for me. If you feel the numbers add up the Overseas will not dissapoint.

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Wouww what a nice trio..

Oyster Sauce · 30 November 2020, 01:24 PM

Setting “investment” potential aside, I think it is a reasonable trade. Especially if you like the VC. I think you should really like it and want it though...for better or worse, the VC is not as widely desirable to the masses as the Rolexes.

The trade is basically this: your workhorse Rolexes for high horology VC refinement. Good stuff on both sides. Best wishes!

dchang81 · 30 November 2020, 01:29 PM

If you really love the overseas sure. My opinion no, I liked the overseas when it was trading well below sticker but not at current prices.

eliaalsayegh · 30 November 2020, 02:11 PM

I sold 2 Rolex for one VC last year

myporsche · 30 November 2020, 03:55 PM

...on paper and based on current market values its a fair trade, but as the owner of those watches and still being a fan of the overseas line I would say F no. It's about how a watch makes you feel and how it speaks to you, if you don't feel those emotions with your Rolex and the VC does, then go for it but for me its hard "hell no".

I know its probably difficult but I would save up and make it my third sports piece for the perfect sport trio. I'm personally speculating watch prices will crash soon and there will be many opportunities to pick up a pre-owned Overseas for great prices, if I told you how much I could have paid for a blue overseas over a year ago you wouldn't believe..

myporsche · 30 November 2020, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dchang81

If you really love the overseas sure. My opinion no, I liked the overseas when it was trading well below sticker but not at current prices.

Correct, WELL below sticker...

myporsche · 30 November 2020, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I love my VCO however my Sub is pretty much my daily so that would be a hard one to give up for me. If you feel the numbers add up the Overseas will not dissapoint.

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This is the perfect sports trio IMO, personally with some color on either the sub or VC. Very nice collection.

Verticalforce · 30 November 2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by myporsche

Correct, WELL below sticker...

There is a rumour blue dial might be boutique only in future so it's hard to go back to the past.
But for black and silver maybe.

Justindo · 30 November 2020, 04:03 PM

If you're wanting to go to a one watch collection, the VC would do nicely and this is currently probably somewhat of a fair trade. Personally, however, I'd rather have the two Rolexes and I think they will retain their value better in the future. It wasn't that long ago that the Overseas blue dial could be had easily for a substantial discount while the Rolexes have always been relatively popular and were discounted much less.

crazymcmichael · 30 November 2020, 05:43 PM

Thank you guys. I didnt know about the price a year ago.. Can anyone specify in numbers?

myporsche · 30 November 2020, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verticalforce

There is a rumour blue dial might be boutique only in future so it's hard to go back to the past.
But for black and silver maybe.

Perhaps and I wouldn't be surprised, but this "boutique only blue" businesses is getting real old with the brands. I was thinking pre-owned as far as pricing.

yessir69 · 1 December 2020, 04:17 AM

If you make that trade I would be very sure the VC is a keeper.

ChetBaker · 3 December 2020, 06:02 AM

The VCO is the much nicer and more versatile watch. Not sure why people keep beating the value retention drum. OP likely will already have benefitted from a significant value increase on the two Rolexes, which will effectively enable him to get a high horology piece at a deep discount. I would do it and get off the beaten path.

29 November 2020, 08:49 PM	#1
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	Vc 4500v/110a-b483 Would this be an fair trade? 4500V/110A-B483 for me and a 114060+216570 for the other party? Would i be a fool to do this? Opinions?? Help?? I like the VC a lot.. It is still quite under the radar too..

29 November 2020, 10:40 PM	#2
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,237	No no no __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

30 November 2020, 12:51 AM	#5
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 5,915	I think it's fair trade if all of the watches are in similar condition. __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. Audemars Piguet: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) Patek Philippe: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996", Seiko: SRPA21,

30 November 2020, 04:57 AM	#7
supernova "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Europe/Asia Watch: AP/Rolex Posts: 1,274	Vc 4500v/110a-b483 I think that is a fair trade, both parties would do well if those are the watch(es) they desire. I personally like the VC over those 2 Rolex. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

30 November 2020, 12:10 AM	#3
huydoan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: mike Location: sydney Watch: pp and only pp Posts: 257	very bad idea ...

30 November 2020, 12:42 AM	#4
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	Thank you guys! Could you explain your thoughts? I thank you a lot))

30 November 2020, 04:16 AM	#6
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	I love my VCO however my Sub is pretty much my daily so that would be a hard one to give up for me. If you feel the numbers add up the Overseas will not dissapoint. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

30 November 2020, 01:24 PM	#9
Oyster Sauce "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,866	Setting “investment” potential aside, I think it is a reasonable trade. Especially if you like the VC. I think you should really like it and want it though...for better or worse, the VC is not as widely desirable to the masses as the Rolexes. The trade is basically this: your workhorse Rolexes for high horology VC refinement. Good stuff on both sides. Best wishes!

30 November 2020, 01:29 PM	#10
dchang81 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,041	If you really love the overseas sure. My opinion no, I liked the overseas when it was trading well below sticker but not at current prices.

30 November 2020, 02:11 PM	#11
eliaalsayegh "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Earth Watch: Rlx Posts: 124	I sold 2 Rolex for one VC last year

30 November 2020, 03:55 PM	#12
myporsche "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: LA<>NY Watch: Rolex♠Lange Posts: 2,277	...on paper and based on current market values its a fair trade, but as the owner of those watches and still being a fan of the overseas line I would say F no. It's about how a watch makes you feel and how it speaks to you, if you don't feel those emotions with your Rolex and the VC does, then go for it but for me its hard "hell no". I know its probably difficult but I would save up and make it my third sports piece for the perfect sport trio. I'm personally speculating watch prices will crash soon and there will be many opportunities to pick up a pre-owned Overseas for great prices, if I told you how much I could have paid for a blue overseas over a year ago you wouldn't believe..

30 November 2020, 04:03 PM	#16
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	If you're wanting to go to a one watch collection, the VC would do nicely and this is currently probably somewhat of a fair trade. Personally, however, I'd rather have the two Rolexes and I think they will retain their value better in the future. It wasn't that long ago that the Overseas blue dial could be had easily for a substantial discount while the Rolexes have always been relatively popular and were discounted much less.

30 November 2020, 05:43 PM	#17
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	Thank you guys. I didnt know about the price a year ago.. Can anyone specify in numbers?

1 December 2020, 04:17 AM	#19
yessir69 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,212	If you make that trade I would be very sure the VC is a keeper.

3 December 2020, 06:02 AM	#20
ChetBaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Europe Posts: 536	The VCO is the much nicer and more versatile watch. Not sure why people keep beating the value retention drum. OP likely will already have benefitted from a significant value increase on the two Rolexes, which will effectively enable him to get a high horology piece at a deep discount. I would do it and get off the beaten path.

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