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Old 6 October 2019, 07:25 AM   #1
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$35k - which used Patek?

Looking to spend around $35k on a used Patek. Want something that will hold its value. Quite like the 5205 but not sure will hold value and 5170 just out of range). Any thoughts?
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Old 6 October 2019, 07:31 AM   #2
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3940 would be my choice :)




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Old 6 October 2019, 07:31 AM   #3
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5130 or 5230 World Time. Given the 5110’s are in the high 20s, the 5130 and 5220 should remain steadily in the 30s.
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Old 6 October 2019, 08:54 AM   #4
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My first choice would also be the 3940. If World Timer I would go 5110 and not spend extra for a more recent, slightly bigger, but IMO less beautiful reference. Chances are higher that prices have bottomed out for the 3940 and 5110 compared to their successors and I find them prettier on top.

Depending on what you like you could also look at vintage Calatravas such as a 570G or 3466A or a modern platinum Calatrava like the rare 5107P.
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Old 6 October 2019, 09:30 AM   #5
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5524G. You might need to spend a little more depending on where you are, but that was my choice in that range.
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Old 6 October 2019, 09:50 AM   #6
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Not sure what the pre-owned market is for the Aquanaut, but a 5167A may have better value retention if that is your primary focus.
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Old 6 October 2019, 09:59 AM   #7
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Pre-owned 5167 are selling for almost double the price of retail.

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Old 6 October 2019, 10:54 AM   #8
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Not sure what the pre-owned market is for the Aquanaut, but a 5167A may have better value retention if that is your primary focus.


33k-39k , good choice , the problem is if it is pre-own be psychologically prepared to be ok with the swirls on the bezel.


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Old 6 October 2019, 11:01 AM   #9
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5524G would be my pick

I dig the 5230 but I think the pilot will fare better price wise in the medium term
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Old 6 October 2019, 11:18 AM   #10
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I wouldn't pay nearly double MSRP for any current production Patek, certainly not for an Aqua. Are you looking to wear/enjoy or invest? Wear/enjoy, then a newer 5205R version or some of the other references suggested earlier. Invest, then MSFT or similar.
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Old 6 October 2019, 11:25 AM   #11
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5524G would be my pick

I dig the 5230 but I think the pilot will fare better price wise in the medium term


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Old 6 October 2019, 11:58 AM   #12
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5524g, I am always tempted myself seeing you can get 35-38k. Really like this one.
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Old 6 October 2019, 12:04 PM   #13
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Traditional Patek would make for a fine choice.
5130p would hold.its value well.
For more modern take on traditional Patek.complication
I would look at 5205g blue/black graduated dial..
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Old 6 October 2019, 12:05 PM   #14
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5205 is my pick. If you have the chance, have a look at the case and the sculptured lugs at the AD. It's beautiful.
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Old 6 October 2019, 01:06 PM   #15
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I’m in a similar situation and I am considering a 5227. I really love the class and simplicity of it.
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Old 6 October 2019, 02:32 PM   #16
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Old 6 October 2019, 08:56 PM   #17
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I went with a 5205

To me, a watch is to be enjoyed. I cant worry if it will hold value as well as some others, thats not the point of them. I really like wearing the 5205.
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Old 6 October 2019, 09:56 PM   #18
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In R or J it should be attainable at that price.
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Old 6 October 2019, 10:33 PM   #19
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I’d buy an aquanaut

There’s one on a bracelet for 35k
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Old 6 October 2019, 11:09 PM   #20
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I’d buy an aquanaut

There’s one on a bracelet for 35k
You have a point and that may well be a sound financial decision. But at the end of the day this is a watch, and on that score I think it's hard to say an Aqua looks like $35k - simply doesn't have that level of refinement, presence or gravitas. Current after-market pricing exuberance aside, there's a reason why its msrp is $23k.

My advice to the OP would be to consider a watch that punches above its weight, rather than one that prices above its weight.
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Old 6 October 2019, 11:13 PM   #21
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You have a point and that may well be a sound financial decision. But at the end of the day this is a watch, and on that score I think it's hard to say an Aqua looks like $35k - simply doesn't have that level of refinement, presence or gravitas. Current after-market pricing exuberance aside, there's a reason why its msrp is $23k.

My advice to the OP would be to consider a watch that punches above its weight, rather than one that prices above its weight.
But the bracelet is so pretty lol. :)
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Old 6 October 2019, 11:13 PM   #22
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3940 or any annual calendar you love. So much watch for the $$$. I’d go 5146P or 5396G Gray Dial.
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You have a point and that may well be a sound financial decision. But at the end of the day this is a watch, and on that score I think it's hard to say an Aqua looks like $35k - simply doesn't have that level of refinement, presence or gravitas. Current after-market pricing exuberance aside, there's a reason why its msrp is $23k.

My advice to the OP would be to consider a watch that punches above its weight, rather than one that prices above its weight.
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But the bracelet is so pretty lol. :)
And for $23k or less, it might even be worth it :-).
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Old 6 October 2019, 11:28 PM   #24
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And for $23k or less, it might even be worth it :-).
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Old 7 October 2019, 02:02 AM   #25
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3940 if you go used...

or consider a brand new 5196G or R or J and start your collection with a Patek Classic...and have 10K to spare.

If you are inclined towards Patek sportier watches...then I'd suggest you wait a little for either the market or on a waitlist.
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Old 7 October 2019, 02:26 AM   #26
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I have the 5524G Pilot and that would be my first pick again if i didn't own it. For me the net one would be a 5230 World Time (or the platinum but then an older one)
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Old 7 October 2019, 04:01 AM   #27
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Looking to spend around $35k on a used Patek.Want something that will hold its value. Quite like the 5205 but not sure will hold value and 5170 just out of range). Any thoughts?
Simple.....

Buy any Patek Philippe you like at the price that the gray dealer willing to pay for.....

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Old 7 October 2019, 04:04 AM   #28
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For me a 5396 in white gold
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Old 7 October 2019, 10:52 AM   #29
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Simple.....

Buy any Patek Philippe you like at the price that the gray dealer willing to pay for.....

Where do you find these deals though? On TRF, chrono24, etc. it’s just the grays selling at their asking prices, no opportunities to buy at what they’re willing to pay for a piece.
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Old 7 October 2019, 10:57 AM   #30
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People mention 3940.... That's definitely the way to go if you can find a nice one for that price.... Maybe a j if lucky but I don't think r's that are nice goes anywhere near that low....
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