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adr · 20 October 2008, 02:51 AM

wow

Malcontent · 22 October 2008, 10:54 AM

My Z has the wider spacing. Never noticed that before

dnr21 · 31 December 2008, 12:52 AM

I saw on the pics posted here that the SuB ND has the latest engraved rehaute but the case has pinholes in it.

May I be enlightened, as I always thought the newer series does not have pinholes.

Thanks!

rcarney · 31 December 2008, 01:25 AM

I'm sure that we'll eventually determine that one of those two versions is much more rare than the other and then collectors will go wild to obtain the more rare version. Rolex loves to play games like that and I'm sure they have fun thinking up these little changes to make collectors go wild.

Dr.B · 31 December 2008, 01:31 AM

It's a Rolex "Phenomenon"...

eric23 · 31 December 2008, 02:45 AM

Great Photo's!!

JJ Irani · 31 December 2008, 03:17 AM

Just different dial printers......like some Subs have the FLAT "S" on the word SUBMARINER.....while others have a ROUND "S".

Bluesy has the ROUND "S" while Subby has the FLAT "S".

Duncan1 · 31 December 2008, 08:43 PM

My m/date does not have wide spacing....interesting!!

Lion · 4 March 2009, 11:42 PM

My Sub ND non COSC has close spacing, does this count!!!

305GMTIIc · 8 March 2009, 10:28 PM

no idea but mine the Rolex Crown seems so close to the 12.00 hr marker. That bothered be until i realized they are all like that. Have the M with the spacing but never noticed it.
On the other hand, I SWEAR its the first Rolex ive worn where random people keep saying how much they like my watch.

fazman · 24 October 2009, 10:54 PM

I read that the no date sub, like the ones you own are more desirable by collectors because the face is umobstructed by the cyclops...your opinion?

I'm trying to decide between date and no date...any help would be appreciated. I like the clean look, but torn between the two choices?

tammer54 · 26 October 2009, 04:43 AM

My V series 14060M has the wide spacing.

poppyoua12 · 29 October 2009, 01:01 AM

My no date serial M52**** has close spacing

holmes · 3 November 2009, 03:20 AM

Looking at all the different photos of the spacing on the dials. I don't see anything. To illustrate what the difference is, would require placing the "two" different dials and photographing them straight on. Making sure the camera macro lens is equidistant from both dial and the light is the same. To photograph a watch dial which is practically laying flat and then trying to determine "spacing?" doesn't work. It's called optics.

Jason Judd · 5 February 2010, 03:48 AM

OMIGOD...I can't believe you guys picked up on this!

Got to have my eyes checked...I see it now that it's been brought to my attention!

hng · 25 February 2010, 07:06 PM

Whatever it looks it should look centered/balance, not something to the right.

slevin kelevra · 25 February 2010, 10:01 PM

Never noticed it until I read this thread. My V 14060m has the space. It does look like it needs to be centered!

thegoodlife777 · 26 February 2010, 07:54 AM

My A is close like the 1st pic. I wonder why Rolex would do this...

DrKorn1423 · 30 June 2015, 10:35 PM

I saw in a post recently that the wider spacing or short feet dials on the 14060M started at Z8xxxxx to M8xxxxx. Dial looks like the new 114060. My guess is it has the new Parachrom Hairspring in them. They also have a more silver printing than white. I have a Z8xxxxx and have been looking at this difference.

padi56 · 30 June 2015, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrKorn1423

I saw in a post recently that the wider spacing or short feet dials on the 14060M started at Z8xxxxx to M8xxxxx. Dial looks like the new 114060. My guess is it has the new Parachrom Hairspring in them. They also have a more silver printing than white. I have a Z8xxxxx and have been looking at this difference.

Just what is the point of bringing back a thread that's 7 years old and the only way to tell if it has or has not the parachrom is get the back off that's the one and only way.

31 December 2008, 12:52 AM	#33
dnr21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: singapore Posts: 28	Question I saw on the pics posted here that the SuB ND has the latest engraved rehaute but the case has pinholes in it. May I be enlightened, as I always thought the newer series does not have pinholes. Thanks!

31 December 2008, 01:25 AM	#34
rcarney "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Washington, DC Watch: Cellini Cestello Posts: 79	I'm sure that we'll eventually determine that one of those two versions is much more rare than the other and then collectors will go wild to obtain the more rare version. Rolex loves to play games like that and I'm sure they have fun thinking up these little changes to make collectors go wild. __________________

31 December 2008, 03:17 AM	#37
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Just different dial printers......like some Subs have the FLAT "S" on the word SUBMARINER.....while others have a ROUND "S". Bluesy has the ROUND "S" while Subby has the FLAT "S". __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

31 December 2008, 08:43 PM	#38
Duncan1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lkwd NY SRQ FL Watch: GMT Ceramic Posts: 28	Spacing My m/date does not have wide spacing....interesting!!

4 March 2009, 11:42 PM	#39
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	My Sub ND non COSC has close spacing, does this count!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

20 October 2008, 02:51 AM	#31
adr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Malaysia Posts: 185	wow

22 October 2008, 10:54 AM	#32
Malcontent "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1	My Z has the wider spacing. Never noticed that before

31 December 2008, 01:31 AM	#35
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	It's a Rolex "Phenomenon"...

31 December 2008, 02:45 AM	#36
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Great Photo's!!

8 March 2009, 10:28 PM	#40
305GMTIIc Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SFlorida Posts: 107	no idea but mine the Rolex Crown seems so close to the 12.00 hr marker. That bothered be until i realized they are all like that. Have the M with the spacing but never noticed it. On the other hand, I SWEAR its the first Rolex ive worn where random people keep saying how much they like my watch.

24 October 2009, 10:54 PM	#41
fazman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: Leland,nc Watch: Milgauss blue Posts: 31	collectibility of no date submariner I read that the no date sub, like the ones you own are more desirable by collectors because the face is umobstructed by the cyclops...your opinion? I'm trying to decide between date and no date...any help would be appreciated. I like the clean look, but torn between the two choices?

26 October 2009, 04:43 AM	#42
tammer54 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Watch: Sub C Posts: 28	My V series 14060M has the wide spacing.

29 October 2009, 01:01 AM	#43
poppyoua12 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Justen Location: detroit Watch: 116610 Submariner Posts: 175	My no date serial M52**** has close spacing

3 November 2009, 03:20 AM	#44
holmes Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NM, USA Posts: 34	Going Blind Looking at all the different photos of the spacing on the dials. I don't see anything. To illustrate what the difference is, would require placing the "two" different dials and photographing them straight on. Making sure the camera macro lens is equidistant from both dial and the light is the same. To photograph a watch dial which is practically laying flat and then trying to determine "spacing?" doesn't work. It's called optics.

5 February 2010, 03:48 AM	#45
Jason Judd Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jason Location: ny Posts: 27	OMIGOD...I can't believe you guys picked up on this! Got to have my eyes checked...I see it now that it's been brought to my attention!

25 February 2010, 07:06 PM	#46
hng "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: HaNgat Location: Jakarta Watch: Sports Rolex Posts: 648	Whatever it looks it should look centered/balance, not something to the right. __________________ Cartier Tank / Suunto Stinger / 16014 / 16610LV / PAM 233 / 116520 / 14060M / 16710 / Omega Constellation

25 February 2010, 10:01 PM	#47
slevin kelevra "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Watch: 14060m Posts: 631	Never noticed it until I read this thread. My V 14060m has the space. It does look like it needs to be centered!

26 February 2010, 07:54 AM	#48
thegoodlife777 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Drew Location: New Mexico Watch: "A" Submariner Posts: 49	My A is close like the 1st pic. I wonder why Rolex would do this...

30 June 2015, 10:35 PM	#49
DrKorn1423 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Toledo, Ohio Watch: 5513 Since '70 Posts: 13	I saw in a post recently that the wider spacing or short feet dials on the 14060M started at Z8xxxxx to M8xxxxx. Dial looks like the new 114060. My guess is it has the new Parachrom Hairspring in them. They also have a more silver printing than white. I have a Z8xxxxx and have been looking at this difference.

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