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Greedy AD this...greedy Grey seller that.....then comes the complaints of Rolex restricting supply...yet everyone loves how their Rolex holds/appreciates in value....it is what it is folks....who can fault ADs and grey sellers making a living maximizing profit. Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too....but that's not always how things play out.
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Thanks for clarifying. I think it will still be Rolex's little brother until the end of time... unless they start creating watches that are unlike anything Rolex produces... maybe MB&F style.
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I agree but they don't move on trends, they take a longer term view and are waiting to see how the world economy and the watch economy plays out, everything is in flux. It is very frustrating for us but Rolex are a conservative, deliberate company, they are not dynamic like Facebook and now look at what's happened to them lately.
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That’s outdated thought. When has Rolex created anything near the Black Bay Bronze? Just 1 example.
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It goes back to the days when Rolex got in trouble for claiming they invented the self-winding watch, when they actually just invented the "rotor" self-winding watch.
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Tudors always look goofy by comparison.
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Ok cool... That is actually some good history to know. Thanks for sharing and the education on the subject. Now I have no complaints about the use of the word Rotor on the Tudor dials.
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Rolex already produces 800,000-900,000 watches per year. This has stayed constant over the last two decades. They simply won’t produce anymore. That they choose to produce more Datejusts and Day-Dates than sports models is their decision. Remember that they have 28, 31, 36 and 41mm DJs in SS, TT YG, TT RG and YG on a president for the ladies’ 28s and 31s. They won’t stop producing those just because steel sports watch popularity is at an all time high. They don’t have to answer to shareholders. All they care about is protecting the brand’s reputation and ensuring its legacy for many decades and even centuries to come.
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I agree 95% - we don’t know the strategy but we do see the tactics. Tudor positioning is closer to the millennial and Rolex pricing to the Baby Boomer. IIRC, DJs & DDs sell more than the sports models at Rolex. I visited my Nearby AD - 2nd visit in March. The owner said they received 0 new watches from Rolex in March thus far. But they did get some Tudors into the shop. And Omega delivered lots of product. So the tactic may be (at least here in US) to move buyers to Tudor? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Patek with Mr. Stern are very smart about protecting their cachet as well. They could easily ramp up SS 5711 and 5712 production with the same quality but that would lower the exclusivity of the brand. Hermès could produce more Birkins and Kellys as well but then women wouldn’t be lining up hysterically and taking whatever they’re given the chance to buy!
As it stands Patek is in some danger of losing cachet. While iced out Day-Dates used to be the rapper’s watch of choice back in the ‘90s, now it’s the Nautilus in any reference. I’m actually pissed that so many of them are being damaged by jewelers with all these aftermarket stones. They’re limited enough already and a large chunk of them are being disfigured forever.
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So the design can be more accessible for "the man whose purse is modest".
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Cool and mine is my post and I think I am right so have at it!
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