42 ROO Ti 'Ghost'

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by japenney

I think you are living in the future my friend. Sorry. I could have got a vampire last week for 17k lightly used.

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The vampire with the steel or ceramic bezel? My point is there will be much tighter supply on new models going forward which should firm prices. If it was the ceramic, I got a buddy who would love to speak to you.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

The vampire with the steel or ceramic bezel? My point is there will be much tighter supply on new models going forward which should firm prices. If it was the ceramic, I got a buddy who would love to speak to you.

I agree!

Dealers margin were cut last year, some dealers had AD status pulled. AP are trying to strengthen the residues and with less discounting and more controlled supply the secondary market will creep up.

Maybe the previous gen 42’s will struggle a little against the new versions but as a whole the days of 30% discounting is long gone! Brands will always have a dog range etc but typically as a whole the popular models will follow Rolex and PP with being able to buy at retail is a discount!

I can see the ceramic bezel 42’s being a hot item if I’m honest.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by SC11

I agree!

Dealers margin were cut last year, some dealers had AD status pulled. AP are trying to strengthen the residues and with less discounting and more controlled supply the secondary market will creep up.

Maybe the previous gen 42’s will struggle a little against the new versions but as a whole the days of 30% discounting is long gone! Brands will always have a dog range etc but typically as a whole the popular models will follow Rolex and PP with being able to buy at retail is a discount!

I can see the ceramic bezel 42’s being a hot item if I’m honest.

Yes, AP are actively trying to manipulate supply and distribution to make their products more exclusive, but not PP and Rolex as many claim, who have done nothing much but been victims of huge demand.

[edo]

Still no pic of the Ghost but monochrome get hands on the other one that missed the SIHH... we already saw the blue, green and grey accents ceramic RO tourbillon and now they reviewed one with the gold touch...

[SC11]

Originally Posted by edo

Still no pic of the Ghost but monochrome get hands on the other one that missed the SIHH... we already saw the blue, green and grey accents ceramic RO tourbillon and now they reviewed one with the gold touch...

I was under the impression there has been some change to the four variants available on rubber strap as now there is just the single all black on ceramic bracelet listed?

[SC11]

This model is the one now listed


Where as at SIHH these were listed

[edo]

Originally Posted by SC11

I was under the impression there has been some change to the four variants available on rubber strap as now there is just the single all black on ceramic bracelet listed?

I saw that too on the webiste... they were listed editions of 25 (as we can see on the caseback), and now it's only this all black edition on bracelet listed as limited of 100...

Ans consider that this is the 44mm size, they would probably start to produce bracelet models on 44mm ROOs also...

[SC11]

Originally Posted by edo

I saw that too on the webiste... they were listed editions of 25 (as we can see on the caseback), and now it's only this all black edition on bracelet listed as limited of 100...

Ans consider that this is the 44mm size, they would probably start to produce bracelet models on 44mm ROOs also...

I did ask the AP UK MD at a recent cocktail evening and he stated they decided to simplify the options and to offer it on bracelet.

Now he didn’t clarify, as its now listed as 100 count if it’s to be 100 just in black or if they’ll be 25 of each colour and if just the way it’s advertised has been simplified!

I wonder if the RO44 and ROO44 cases differ apart from the pushers?! Be interesting as like you said the ceramic bracelet could easily be moved over to the ROO but then also the new dual colour strap this RO44 was released on would give more strap variety to ROO44 owners, plus are the ceramic plots new or have other models used these before?

[benlee]

Originally Posted by SC11

This model is the one now listed


Where as at SIHH these were listed

Interesting. So they offer ceramic bracelet for RO as an add on

[SC11]

Originally Posted by benlee

Interesting. So they offer ceramic bracelet for RO as an add on

It’s not entirely clear! I was under the impression it was shown at SIHH as a model on rubber strap and since then it been changed to one now being offered on bracelet.

However it does appear the strap models are still doing the rounds!

[edo]

Originally Posted by SC11

I did ask the AP UK MD at a recent cocktail evening and he stated they decided to simplify the options and to offer it on bracelet.

Now he didn’t clarify, as its now listed as 100 count if it’s to be 100 just in black or if they’ll be 25 of each colour and if just the way it’s advertised has been simplified!

I wonder if the RO44 and ROO44 cases differ apart from the pushers?! Be interesting as like you said the ceramic bracelet could easily be moved over to the ROO but then also the new dual colour strap this RO44 was released on would give more strap variety to ROO44 owners, plus are the ceramic plots new or have other models used these before?

Strange things with this model too... the monochrome review is one day old so it's strange if they still give models that they will not sell to review... also as you can see on other pics it was fitted with the full black rubber without gold colour on sides as advertised on SIHH...

Regarding 44 ROO fit, when I watched review of this model in sandblasted titanium, case and overall watch looked somehow smaller than ROO... don't know it is just optical illusion because of pushers...

[Marciano490]

Wouldn’t it be funny if they named a watch a ghost and then it just never appeared?

[SC11]

Originally Posted by edo

Strange things with this model too... the monochrome review is one day old so it's strange if they still give models that they will not sell to review... also as you can see on other pics it was fitted with the full black rubber without gold colour on sides as advertised on SIHH...

Regarding 44 ROO fit, when I watched review of this model in sandblasted titanium, case and overall watch looked somehow smaller than ROO... don't know it is just optical illusion because of pushers...

Yes I agree does appear to be a little odd!

Even more so is the Platinum ROC with smoke effect dial which went live on the site over SIHH and totally vanished!

This one


Case wise the RO44 is only 1mm thinner then the ROO Ali Bin Ali (13.2mm Vs 14.45mm) they both use the same movement 2936 yet it’s hand wound in the ROO and automatic in the RO (well that’s what the AP site states yet I thought the 2936 was manual wind only)

Edit: AP site clearly wrong as I was correct it’s a manual wind)


Also the RO44 only has 20m WR Vs 100m WR of the ROO44

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

Wouldn’t it be funny if they named a watch a ghost and then it just never appeared?

Lollll

[dmash]

Forgot to mention it in this thread...


AP confirmed for me you can buy a matching titanium bracelet for the Ghost. Model is BR.1000.003.TI-M.R and it costs $2,375.

[edo]

Originally Posted by SC11

Case wise the RO44 is only 1mm thinner then the ROO Ali Bin Ali (13.2mm Vs 14.45mm) they both use the same movement 2936 yet it’s hand wound in the ROO and automatic in the RO (well that’s what the AP site states yet I thought the 2936 was manual wind only)
Edit: AP site clearly wrong as I was correct it’s a manual wind)

Too many mistakes on website for such company... it's one man one day job to check all mistakes...

Originally Posted by dmash

Forgot to mention it in this thread...

AP confirmed for me you can buy a matching titanium bracelet for the Ghost. Model is BR.1000.003.TI-M.R and it costs $2,375.

They only sell the new clasp bracelets now? As titanium 42 model for the first years was fitted with the old one...

[singe89]

Originally Posted by dmash

Forgot to mention it in this thread...


AP confirmed for me you can buy a matching titanium bracelet for the Ghost. Model is BR.1000.003.TI-M.R and it costs $2,375.

exactly what I've been waiting for...lets hope it actually appears.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by edo

They only sell the new clasp bracelets now? As titanium 42 model for the first years was fitted with the old one...

Not sure, they explicitly told me this is the bracelet I could buy for it. I went through the APSC and they forwarded my info to another department where I received a response, so this was all AP internal, therefore I'm 100% sure the info was accurate. I didn't just ask an AD.

I wouldn't want the old one anyways, so not sure how this is a bad thing?

[edo]

Originally Posted by dmash

Not sure, they explicitly told me this is the bracelet I could buy for it. I went through the APSC and they forwarded my info to another department where I received a response, so this was all AP internal, therefore I'm 100% sure the info was accurate. I didn't just ask an AD.

I wouldn't want the old one anyways, so not sure how this is a bad thing?

I don't think that they sell old one anymore... the newest titanium on bracelet is the QE2 cup from this SIHH and it features new clasp...

[dmash]

Originally Posted by edo

I don't think that they sell old one anymore... the newest titanium on bracelet is the QE2 cup from this SIHH and it features new clasp...

Are you trying to say that model number is for the old clasp? Otherwise your postings are making zero sense, as you keep talking about clasps as if there is some error here......

[dmash]

Here is the exact same model number but in steel with 'st' instead of 'ti'. I don't understand what you're trying to say, this model number obviously has the new clasp...

[edo]

Originally Posted by dmash

Are you trying to say that model number is for the old clasp? Otherwise your postings are making zero sense, as you keep talking about clasps as if there is some error here......

I was referring on your part that you don't want old one. Great you clarified with the pic it's the new one...

[bluebeamer]

still nada?

[dmash]

Originally Posted by bluebeamer

still nada?

I’m just waiting for AP to tweet ‘Boo!’ and have the Ghost magically appear

[bluebeamer]

Originally Posted by dmash

I’m just waiting for AP to tweet ‘Boo!’ and have the Ghost magically appear

Me too! I can’t believe there are still no live pics! I’m itching to sell my black themes and save for this one but I gotta see pics first!


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[G'ed]

Unicorn piece and quite desirable by purist. Yet AP churning those wacky color Divers...

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by G'ed

Unicorn piece and quite desirable by purist. Yet AP churning those wacky color Divers...

Purists are the minority and hence not money makers for them that’s why.

I contacted the boutique regarding my ghost but they told me no exact eta yet.


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[Trailboss516]

Here's to hoping for a ceramic bracelet to fit the 44mm ceramic novelty :-)

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Trailboss516

Here's to hoping for a ceramic bracelet to fit the 44mm ceramic novelty :-)

Get your own threads, this one is reserved for the GhostGroup

[edo]

Probably they have some kind of problem with grey ceramic bezel as it's first time they use it on any model... correct me if I'm wrong but the only grey ceramic parts actually seen on AP models is pushers on Japan boutique Diver...