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24 January 2020, 11:19 PM | #31 |
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I don't doubt for a minute that these AD's are holding their stock in the back. The AD where I live and who I've known for over 20 yrs when he first went into the jewelry business wanted to put me on a list for 114300 OP. This is from a guy who I considered a friend. Well 2 weeks later after a text to Tony Geha-JustRolexes I received a beautiful preowned OP for way less than I would have paid with with a full retail price plus NYC sales tax. If I didn't say it was preowned you would never know. It came with boxes & over 4 yrs left on the warranty. Screw these AD's.
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24 January 2020, 11:40 PM | #32 | |
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This makes sense. Look, most AD’s sell jewelry and the new generations just don’t have that kind of dough or are simply not as interested in jewelry as the previous generations. Many jewelry stores (not talking AD’s) have closed up or consolidated in my neck of the woods. It makes sense that these folks would leverage desirable models to get folks to either spend more on watches than intended or spend something on the jewelry. I mean most folks come in plunk down the money and get maybe one nice watch. There is all the incentive in the world to try to get folks to buy multiple models or work with gray market to boost their bottom line. Rather than fishing for costumers and having the majority of folks try on watches and walk out, the gray snaps up massive inventory. A bird on hand is worth two in the Bush. |
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24 January 2020, 11:50 PM | #33 |
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None, that's the problem with this post. Cleveland still has the same three dealers we had six years ago. Kleinhenz, Alson, and Sheibans are all still here. All three are still listed as ADs on the Rolex website. Take care, Ruddiger |
24 January 2020, 11:54 PM | #34 |
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Also, while I don't doubt at all that some AD's have stock "in the back" its not always for the nefarious reasons people suspect. For example, my AD goes out of his way to ensure that valuable watches go to customers he KNOWS won't flip them. To me, that's admirable and not something to be criticized for, particularly with all of the people pumping up the speculative bubble. Take care, Ruddiger |
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Of course ADs hold back some stock. They do it for preferred customers that they know want hard to get pieces.
My last AD visit had her bring out a nice box that when opened held 4 SS professional watches for me to pick from or take all 4. There's nothing wrong with a business rewarding its best customers, from an airline that gives free upgrades or priority seating to its most frequent fliers to a burger franchise that issues freebies to people who use their app to purchase more than anyone else does. I'm not sure why people who are keen only on spending as little as possible to get exactly what they want in highly in demand item all the while trashing the business expect anything else. Yeah, everyone wants a brand new Ferrari for the price of a 2009 Honda Civic but to expect it is just weird. |
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25 January 2020, 12:15 AM | #37 |
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i agree with part of that. I am sure there are some AD's that sell to the grey market.
What i am sure of is that the SS are sold on a select basis. I think is you have an AD that you have done quite a bit of business with over the years, there is some preferential treatment. Especially with a limited supply. Why not. |
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I think the ball is in OP's court now to provide proof to back up his post, for his own credibility's sake. |
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25 January 2020, 01:44 AM | #40 |
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My AD keeps the desirable stuff in back as well but just to try to not sell to flippers. The directive from the owner is “I want them sold to local clients that will wear them..” Once something comes in the clients are called and if no takers they’ll put it in the case. I’ve seen a SS Sub in their case within the past year.
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Check again Ruddiger..... Moreland Hills? Next to the Italian restaurant? Thanks for the local knowledge though
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...local AD that just closed? Could this be sour grapes. This person most likely has no idea what other dealers do. If this store held back pieces and this was against Rolex policy. Well we know why they lost their Rolex agency.
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Most remarkable thing is that Tudor is also now being held in the back for special enough customers !
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Sometimes disgruntled ex-workers are not the best source of info. Sometimes they are.
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25 January 2020, 08:19 AM | #49 |
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Btw, the Italian place is called “Flour.” I live two minutes away from it. The food is good. |
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25 January 2020, 08:53 AM | #51 |
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And the Govberg location here did just close recently.
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This is the best racketeering outfit in history. All the ADs are taking part. What a spectacle
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25 January 2020, 09:07 AM | #53 |
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What ADs are doing is simply human nature. It sucks and its fustrating, but the tables will turn at one point in the future..
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25 January 2020, 09:11 AM | #54 |
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Sorry man. “Almost every” and “all” are very close in my eyes. So I change that post (if I could) to “almost every” like you wrote. Then I standby the rest of what I wrote. Cool?
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Wait....there’s an AD that has ENOUGH inventory TO keep things in the back??
Most hot references that arrive at most ADs don’t have enough time to even get there before getting into someone’s hands. |
25 January 2020, 10:26 AM | #56 |
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Well, I stand by what I said and the other Cleveland locals confirmed it. Even if this location closed recently they lost their AD status a very long time before that. Accept the facts, for a long time Cleveland has had three Rolex dealers and two real professional sports teams.....we also have the Browns. Take care, Ruddiger |
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25 January 2020, 12:42 PM | #58 | |
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Come on, at the end of the day it’s just a mass produced watch. Sure you can get a Daytona tomorrow from grey for 25K, but you can also wait and get a Pepsi and a Daytona from AD. Or get a Daytona and invest the money you save. You can be frivolous or be smart with your money. Back to topic at hand. YES! They do have them in the back! |
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