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Old 14 June 2019, 03:39 AM   #31
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^^ The AD is not lying just giving you a very strong sales pitch. There are numerous threads on allocations in the USA which is different to say UK. The USA allocates to dealers who sell to whoever they want and in some cases even leave the application piece in their safe and the sell to a valued client the moment the new model is produced!!! This even applies to the 5522 and all nautilus anniversary pieces. HSNY was not involved. In UK totally different and Rhone wants to know the person the watch is being allocated to. Now irrespective of how nice the 5270P is, I don't believe it's selling. I think the price point was too high....however that doesn't matter what I think...the reality is I know of 2 dealers in the UK who have yet to sell a single watch. However the 5740 they have queues to NY and back....
That is not the impression I got. My AD had to put my name forward to patek and the watch was then allocated to them with my name printed on the COA.

I did not get the vibe that my AD was going out of their way to get it for me but rather patek approved me over some other applicants so I received it.
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Old 14 June 2019, 07:16 AM   #32
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I would get the 5740.... The 5270P is relatively easy to get....in fact wait a bit and you might find price softens even further.....
I would also get the 5740 for that reason if I had the choice and equally liked both pieces. Not sure if the salmon dials stay en vogue and if I would like a salmon dial in the long run. Stunning pics of the 5270P here by nyc2la and other though.
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Old 14 June 2019, 08:35 AM   #33
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Get the 5270 as that is the watch for your collection, don't be swayed by the $$$ of the hyped one.
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Old 14 June 2019, 08:41 AM   #34
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As you mention you have many sports watches, I will just sell them for the 5740. Ideally, get both the 5270p and 5740. Also who knows, the 5270p might become a 500k watch in the future? There is a waiting list for the VIP as well for the 5270p currently.


What a great shout this is. What a pairing!!

If you have to choose, I’d go 5270 despite me being a sports watch guy! The 5270P is different class.




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Old 14 June 2019, 08:41 AM   #35
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Old 18 June 2019, 08:40 AM   #36
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I like the 5270P better and it's clearly a superior watch but if I wanted a 5740, I would get it first because the 5270P is not difficult to get and will likely be available at a discount in the near future.
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Old 17 July 2019, 05:51 AM   #37
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My AD has just received their first 5270P, in and out the sameday.
I was speaking to Tiernan at Boodles recently and he said they had received more 5270Ps than 5740Gs.
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Old 17 July 2019, 06:06 AM   #38
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I would get the 5740 first.
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Old 17 July 2019, 06:38 AM   #39
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Know someone whose 5270p arrived on Friday.
It's a stunning watch and if I had the funds I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up.
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Old 17 July 2019, 07:15 AM   #40
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I was speaking to Tiernan at Boodles recently and he said they had received more 5270Ps than 5740Gs.
My Ad has had one 5740G and one 5270P so even stevens
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Old 17 July 2019, 10:51 AM   #41
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Two AD's in my area both have one and both "offered" it to me. They are not hard to get in my experience. Very nice in person, way better than photos. But for that coin.... I dunno.


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Old 17 July 2019, 02:33 PM   #42
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I'll take it..
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Old 17 July 2019, 11:13 PM   #43
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Naw Mr Pro Tour, I would only buy the 5270 if I really liked it and would expect to keep it a long time.The problem is, that if you tire of it and want to sell you will lose about 20 grand. If you go in knowing that, and still want it, fine. I would ask the AD if you don’t buy this one , will you still be next in line for the 5740? If he says yes , I would wait but know it will be probably a year before it arrives. For me I won’t buy any timepiece I can’t sell wholesale to a dealer and make money or at least get my money back. I buy them for long term but just the same , you never know what the future may bring. Just my 2 pennies worth. james in San Antonio :-)
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Old 18 July 2019, 06:07 AM   #44
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Get the 5270. Much more significant watch.
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Old 18 July 2019, 06:11 AM   #45
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Naw Mr Pro Tour, I would only buy the 5270 if I really liked it and would expect to keep it a long time.The problem is, that if you tire of it and want to sell you will lose about 20 grand. If you go in knowing that, and still want it, fine. I would ask the AD if you don’t buy this one , will you still be next in line for the 5740? If he says yes , I would wait but know it will be probably a year before it arrives. For me I won’t buy any timepiece I can’t sell wholesale to a dealer and make money or at least get my money back. I buy them for long term but just the same , you never know what the future may bring. Just my 2 pennies worth. james in San Antonio :-)
The problem is almost no used dress watch can sold to a used watch dealer wholesale at even money. These watches are purchased to wear and enjoy. What is going on with SS sports models at the moment is really an aberration in the watch market where normally the end consumer always loses money, no matter what they bought.
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Old 18 July 2019, 02:01 PM   #46
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The problem is almost no used dress watch can sold to a used watch dealer wholesale at even money. These watches are purchased to wear and enjoy. What is going on with SS sports models at the moment is really an aberration in the watch market where normally the end consumer always loses money, no matter what they bought.
It depends how long you keep it for. I'd be surprised if you lose anything once it's out of production if you were to stick it in an auction at a later date.
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Old 18 July 2019, 03:42 PM   #47
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The problem is almost no used dress watch can sold to a used watch dealer wholesale at even money. These watches are purchased to wear and enjoy. What is going on with SS sports models at the moment is really an aberration in the watch market where normally the end consumer always loses money, no matter what they bought.
I've come to believe that this is not a bubble but rather a lasting trend.

Wall street was the last bastion of formal work attire but now even they have moved to casual wear. The dress watch is dead because, for virtually all people, today's work attire leaves no room for it. Guy's still want to show off a luxury timepiece but it has to be casual. Enter the SS craze...

Even big changes to production numbers won't effect this trend much as demand will always shift to the harder to get pieces. We will see some burble in the numbers here and there but SS madness is here to stay for quite a while I think.
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Old 18 July 2019, 03:52 PM   #48
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It depends how long you keep it for. I'd be surprised if you lose anything once it's out of production if you were to stick it in an auction at a later date.
5270G and 5270R is out of production now and still current prices for those watches are significantly below their last MSRP
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Old 18 July 2019, 03:53 PM   #49
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I'll bet my sour socks that 5740 sits better on the wrist than the 5270.
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Old 18 July 2019, 05:56 PM   #50
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Initially I was thinking of getting both but then changed my mind on 5270P. 5740G is an awesome watch and I have no regrets getting it. If you are thinking of getting both I would get the 5270P first as Patek may discontinue it next year or the year after but they are unlikely to discontinue the 5740G any time soon.
correct but another PCC will follow and the 5270P will continue to loose value no matter what. if one is not concerned with that and likes the watch then by all means get it....
although manual PCCs are very much in the DNA of patek i find them very inconvenient of not always worn. resetting them is no fun for me.
5740.....well, nice but not my fav nautilus.
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Old 18 July 2019, 06:09 PM   #51
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correct but another PCC will follow and the 5270P will continue to loose value no matter what. if one is not concerned with that and likes the watch then by all means get it....
although manual PCCs are very much in the DNA of patek i find them very inconvenient of not always worn. resetting them is no fun for me.
5740.....well, nice but not my fav nautilus.
Patek invested on 29-535 PS Q movement so once they discontinue the 5270 series completely they will produce another PCC with the same movement, just like they did with 5172G
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Old 19 July 2019, 02:37 AM   #52
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Chrono24 has one brand new 5270p for sale now around 156k. The seller has a shop in HK. I texted him. The price is unlikely to go any lower imo. If you afford this piece, I’m sure it is one great reference to your purchase history for your AD. You can always ask for a nice sport model watch any time later.
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Old 19 July 2019, 01:14 PM   #53
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5270G and 5270R is out of production now and still current prices for those watches are significantly below their last MSRP
Maybe for now, I thought we were talking about the P however. It's already selling at a premium pre owned.
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Old 19 July 2019, 02:18 PM   #54
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Maybe for now, I thought we were talking about the P however. It's already selling at a premium pre owned.
5270p at a premium? all of them new/used are listed 20-30k below the original retail
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Old 19 July 2019, 02:20 PM   #55
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Maybe for now, I thought we were talking about the P however. It's already selling at a premium pre owned.
Current asking prices from grey dealers start 10+% below MSRP and have been creeping lower if anything (unworn w box and papers)...
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Old 19 July 2019, 04:50 PM   #56
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Maybe for now, I thought we were talking about the P however. It's already selling at a premium pre owned.
I don't know the situation in Hong Kong or rest of the world but in the UK ADs I deal with have had problems moving this watch. In the UK it is certainly not selling for a premium even brand new.
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Old 19 July 2019, 08:44 PM   #57
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I love the 5270. However as someone who used to have a 5970 and is a bracelet watch guy I will say the following. One can admire an amazing piece like the 5270 but when it comes to owning one and wearing it it’s a different thing. I wore my 5970 like 4 times. I realized that my own taste and comfort is more satisfied by wearing a bracelet watch. I enjoy my 5726 Nautilus or even my Rolex SAS Exp II more than I ever did my 5970. That is why I got rid of it after having traded a ton of great bracelet watches to get it. If you love a sports watch and that is your thing then I would just wait for the 5740. You will wear it more and enjoy it more. The 5270 will end up sitting in your safe 90% of the time. It doesn’t mean you don’t appreciate it it just means that it’s something that doesn’t fit for you. Just my .02.
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Old 19 July 2019, 09:34 PM   #58
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I passed on a 5270 a couple weeks ago. Gorgeous watch but not for me. 5740 would be my choice. If anyone is chasing the 5270 pm me.
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Old 20 July 2019, 12:00 AM   #59
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So has anyone asked for a discount on 5270. Op If you want this piece, I would start at 10% or even 15% off. If they won’t do that , no deal. Again just what I would do if I was me . :-)
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So has anyone asked for a discount on 5270. Op If you want this piece, I would start at 10% or even 15% off. If they won’t do that , no deal. Again just what I would do if I was me . :-)

They aren't hard to get, Im sure dealers will play ball on them. If OP buys it, cannot understand why that would hurt his position for a 5740, likely help as you are moving a hard to move piece out of the store at a high ticket price.


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