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Old 19 January 2019, 08:28 AM   #1
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Trade a 15400 blue for a 116500 white?

I own an AP 15400 blue dial that rarely gets wrist time and am thinking of selling it, but I am starting to consider a trade for the Daytona C white dial. Crazy?

I would be fine with a pre-owned Daytona and would expect to get money back on this trade.

Either way, does this seem dumb? I mean, I love both brands but the AP is obviously a higher level of horology than the Daytona so it just feels like a weird trade. However, if I don't wear the AP and am craving a Daytona, who cares? I also don't like that even in a trade I am still essentially paying over retail for the Daytona and that bothers me.


Worth noting, I paid retail for my 15400, NOT a premium, so I have equity.

Kind of thinking out loud here but interested in peoples thoughts.
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Old 19 January 2019, 08:36 AM   #2
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Would it be possible for you to get a Daytona at retail and if so, how long do you think you'd have to wait?

I don't think I could personally do that trade, although the market values aren't unequal.
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Old 19 January 2019, 08:39 AM   #3
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I do not expect to get a Daytona for retail any time soon. I buy most of my watches grey and do not have any significant relationship with an AD to expect a Daytona at retail in this lifetime. Yes, I am on a "list" but I am realistic and know that is next to worthless.
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Old 19 January 2019, 09:59 AM   #4
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If your AP is rarely getting wrist time and you won't be able to get a Daytona at retail, I think it's a reasonably fair trade. As long as you don't have to add cash or a significant amount of cash - go for it.
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Old 19 January 2019, 10:16 AM   #5
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Hell No!

That AP is also discontinued now and the blue dial is hard to get.
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Old 19 January 2019, 10:21 AM   #6
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If your AP is rarely getting wrist time and you won't be able to get a Daytona at retail, I think it's a reasonably fair trade. As long as you don't have to add cash or a significant amount of cash - go for it.

I think the opposite of adding cash. I should get money back. I see a pre-owned Dyatona C white on DSW site for 20k and I believe a pre-owned 15400 blue dial should be around 22K. Maybe less in trade value, but no way I have to add money for this trade. I would never do that. I should get money back.
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Old 19 January 2019, 10:22 AM   #7
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MSRP is arbitrary at this point when talking about those pieces. Don’t think you lose anything either way. AP 15202 will always be the flagship and I believe SS daytona is Rolex’s version of that. Hence, I think the 15400 blue will always slot underneath the 202
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Old 19 January 2019, 11:33 AM   #8
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I mean, I love both brands but the AP is obviously a higher level of horology than the Daytona so it just feels like a weird trade.

I also don't like that even in a trade I am still essentially paying over retail for the Daytona and that bothers me.
So why are you considering it?
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Old 19 January 2019, 11:43 AM   #9
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Pretty confident the Daytona will get wrist time; I'd do it!
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Old 19 January 2019, 11:48 AM   #10
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So why are you considering it?


Because the 15400 isn’t getting wrist time and I’m craving that Daytona.

Also, I’ve made an agreement with myself that I am not putting any more money into my collection. If I want another piece, I can only acquire by trading or selling an existing watch from my collection.


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Old 19 January 2019, 11:57 AM   #11
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Because the 15400 isn’t getting wrist time and I’m craving that Daytona.

Also, I’ve made an agreement with myself that I am not putting any more money into my collection. If I want another piece, I can only acquire by trading or selling an existing watch from my collection.


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Have you tried on the Daytona? Since you buy grey I ask because it wears super small imo. If you have larger then a 7.25 wrist I would definitely have to try one on first. It’s 38.5mm but I feel it wears small. I tried on a black dial with opportunity to buy one but i didn’t like the fit. Was a bummer because the watch is gorgeous. White dials wear bigger. I’d hate for you to trade a 41mm watch thinking tour getting a 40mm watch and be very disappointed. I’m looking for a blue skydweller now around retail but it seems hopeless. Lol


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Old 19 January 2019, 12:14 PM   #12
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I like the blue dial 15400 personally but if you don't see yourself wearing it and you want the Daytona more, why not? Go for it
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Old 19 January 2019, 12:20 PM   #13
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Have you tried on the Daytona? Since you buy grey I ask because it wears super small imo. If you have larger then a 7.25 wrist I would definitely have to try one on first. It’s 38.5mm but I feel it wears small. I tried on a black dial with opportunity to buy one but i didn’t like the fit. Was a bummer because the watch is gorgeous. White dials wear bigger. I’d hate for you to trade a 41mm watch thinking tour getting a 40mm watch and be very disappointed. I’m looking for a blue skydweller now around retail but it seems hopeless. Lol


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I have not specifically tried on the white dial Daytona C but I have tried on many other non ceramic Daytona references. They fit me wonderfully. I think it’s the best fitting Rolex for my wrist size, which is a little under 7 inches.

I think I can wear the 41mm 15400 just fine but I do not mind smaller watches at all. I can even see myself acquiring an older 36mm Explorer one day.


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Old 19 January 2019, 12:23 PM   #14
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I find the 116500 to be incredibly comfortable. I think you will too.


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Old 19 January 2019, 12:23 PM   #15
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if I were you I’d trade it in a heartbeat. I’ve owned the 15400 blue and got rid of it, but still have my 116500 white.

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I own an AP 15400 blue dial that rarely gets wrist time and am thinking of selling it, but I am starting to consider a trade for the Daytona C white dial. Crazy?

I would be fine with a pre-owned Daytona and would expect to get money back on this trade.

Either way, does this seem dumb? I mean, I love both brands but the AP is obviously a higher level of horology than the Daytona so it just feels like a weird trade. However, if I don't wear the AP and am craving a Daytona, who cares? I also don't like that even in a trade I am still essentially paying over retail for the Daytona and that bothers me.


Worth noting, I paid retail for my 15400, NOT a premium, so I have equity.

Kind of thinking out loud here but interested in peoples thoughts.
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Old 19 January 2019, 12:29 PM   #16
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i find the 116500 to be incredibly comfortable. I think you will too.


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Old 19 January 2019, 12:43 PM   #17
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I would add that the balance of the Daytona is something really special.


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Old 19 January 2019, 12:43 PM   #18
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As long as you get the right money back, I’d do it. I personally prefer wearing a 116500 over a 15400. Both are excellent but the Daytona is simply more practical for me.

If it’s possible though for you I’d try to own both simultaneously so you now you make the right call. The 15400 Blue will be hard to replace.
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Old 19 January 2019, 12:53 PM   #19
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Had both but only the Daytona remains. Love AP ROs but I always felt like I had to be “wrist aware” every time I wore it. The Daytona, on the other hand, is built like a tank.




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Old 19 January 2019, 12:55 PM   #20
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I’d do it as well. I think you are right that you should get some cash coming your way though.

The balance of the Daytona is incredible and it was super comfortable. That said, I found the AP super comfortable as well, was just a little big for my wrist.


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Old 19 January 2019, 01:05 PM   #21
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I would do it, unless it is a 202 blue
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Old 19 January 2019, 01:06 PM   #22
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I would do it. I think if you really want the Daytona now is the time to either trade or sell the 15400 since they did announce the model will be discontinued. I think you could get a good amount for it!
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Old 19 January 2019, 02:11 PM   #23
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I would not do that trade. Your AP is iconic in its own right and a nicer watch overall. I also have a RO and Zenith model Daytona. I like them both, but the AP is in a different league. Yes, it would also bother me to pay over MSRP for a current production piece. No way I would reconcile that decision. I would hold for now and wait for the currently crazy Rolex market to correct. I predict the current Daytona C will soften from current asking prices.


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Old 19 January 2019, 02:18 PM   #24
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Scenario is near and dear to my heart. Had a 116520 Daytona and a blue 15400. Ended up selling the Daytona due to the bezel scratches but kept the 15400 because it was a beautiful watch. However, I was always worried about that bezel as well. Ended up selling it to a friend on here. I miss it and love the RO...just hate needing to be so careful.

Now I have a 116500 incoming. It probably won't be as special as the RO...but with the ceramic bezel, I also won't care as much...
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Old 19 January 2019, 02:32 PM   #25
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MSRP is arbitrary at this point when talking about those pieces. Don’t think you lose anything either way. AP 15202 will always be the flagship and I believe SS daytona is Rolex’s version of that. Hence, I think the 15400 blue will always slot underneath the 202
When comparing like watches it would probably be a Rolex Daytona to AP ROC especially if we're not talking MSRP. When talking 15202, you're not talking flagship per se, but what people view as the iconic piece from that house. Otherwise, the flagship from Rolex is probably the DayDate with the Sub as most iconic.
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Old 20 January 2019, 01:48 AM   #26
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I own the Daytona and wouldn’t make the trade. I love the Daytona but that AP may be hard to replace. That said, if you’re not wearing it then well...
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Is there another watch you can sell instead? The blue 400 is now discoed and so will be very hard and expensive to get again.
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Old 20 January 2019, 01:53 AM   #28
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Because the 15400 isn’t getting wrist time and I’m craving that Daytona.

Also, I’ve made an agreement with myself that I am not putting any more money into my collection. If I want another piece, I can only acquire by trading or selling an existing watch from my collection.


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Okay...I totally get that. If the AP isn't getting the wrist time, then by all means, move it along.
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Old 20 January 2019, 02:17 AM   #29
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If you don't wear the AP then get rid of it there's no value to have it just sitting when you can use cash for something else... Whether that be Daytona or other investments


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Old 20 January 2019, 03:00 AM   #30
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Trade a 15400 blue for a 116500 white?

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If you don't wear the AP then get rid of it there's no value to have it just sitting when you can use cash for something else... Whether that be Daytona or other investments


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Unless we think it’s going to significantly increase in value now, being discontinued.

Not so much because of the “investment” but if it does go up a bit more I could flip it for a PM Daytona like a 116508.

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