Daytona 16520 A series for AP Royal Oak Chrono 38mm

[Mikel212]

Would you trade a white Daytona 16520 A series with box and paper for the new AP Royal Oak Chrono REF. #26315ST.OO.1256ST.01 or similar?

https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa....OO.1256ST.01/

Are AP movements as reliable as Rolex? Never owned an AP before. Without any personal experience, I just have the impression that AP are like high-tech sports cars. Great when they run, but if things go wrong, service costs are high and can only be serviced at the stealership.

I have another identical 16520 that gets wrist time. I'm just thinking to add a little variation and still be able to retain value. Kind of like selling some Google stock to buy some Amazon.

Any thoughts?

[Roger Lococco]

It’s an outstanding movement. The Daytona movement is even better.

I would be shocked if you were able to make that trade straight up. I would make the trade in your position.

The AP dial design is far better than the Daytona dial design.

The off-center date on the AP is an unfortunate shortcut that would bother me.

I’ve heard the AP bracelet tapers to the extent that this is essentially a unisex watch.


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[jeffnnj]

If you can live with the scratches and how delicate the AP is, go for it. I literally couldn't wait to unload my 15400 for that reason.

[1665fan]

Keep daytona

[golfsc]

Your Daytona will continue to increase in value, the AP while beautiful will not.

[holdtime]

Ap.

[JCC296]

Keep the 16520

[KBM]

Originally Posted by golfsc

Your Daytona will continue to increase in value, the AP while beautiful will not.

While this is probably true, if the main concern is value appreciation, none of these watches will outperform a good stock.

If you already own another zenith daytona and want variety, I'd say the AP is an excellent choice.

[bronzeband00]

I'ld prefer the Daytona possession.

[GB-man]

You’re selling some google stock to buy some Tesla.

[yoast]

Originally Posted by golfsc

Your Daytona will continue to increase in value, the AP while beautiful will not.

This

[AK797]

If you have 2 Ds and fancy a change this new 38mm AP is a no brainer, jump aboard!

[HL65]

No

[astewartconst]

If I had two of them yeah I would trade one for the 38mm RO


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[Grnvette65]

Originally Posted by gb-man

you’re selling some google stock to buy some tesla.

+1

[redsubby]

No way

[rotiprata]

if value appreciation/retention is not of your concern, then go for it. This is the fun part of horology, experiencing different watches. I'm currently getting bored of my rolexes, therefore am as well looking at getting an AP for a different feel and look.

[subtona]

absolutely not.

your daytona is my running favorite of all the daytona iterations.

it is the epitome of the phrase keeper.

lets not ever speak of this again.

[srvrf]

I love the smaller ROCs, and since you have two Daytonas, I think it is reasonable. Two great chronographs and two different styles. Value retention is difficult to predict. Rolex is typically good and predictable, but current listings for the ROC 25860 are about $5000 more than I paid for it pre-owned. The new ones I believe will be boutique only and full price.

[cascavel]

That's the equivalent of giving away 10K. Has anyone checked to see how poorly the 39mm ROC has done over the last few years.

[blacke90]

Originally Posted by cascavel

That's the equivalent of giving away 10K. Has anyone checked to see how poorly the 39mm ROC has done over the last few years.

Out of curiosity where how did you calculate the $10K loss? Maybe you can tell us more on the 39mm ROC since you brought it up. Look forward to hearing from you.

[77T]

Originally Posted by cascavel

That's the equivalent of giving away 10K. Has anyone checked to see how poorly the 39mm ROC has done over the last few years.

You may be thinking about a different AP...in like for like condition and full sets, both are about $1000 apart.


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[77T]

Originally Posted by Mikel212

Would you trade a white Daytona 16520 A series with box and paper for the new AP Royal Oak Chrono REF. #26315ST.OO.1256ST.01 or similar?

No - but if you like the octagonal shape, and the cleaner bezel (without a tachymeter scale) then you should be happy with the AP until it goes to Clearwater for a service.

Originally Posted by Mikel212

Are AP movements as reliable as Rolex?

Your watch doesn’t have a Rolex movement. It’s a Zenith...and IMHO superior to the AP. But functionally you gain a date complication in the AP if that matters.

Originally Posted by Mikel212

I have another identical 16520 that gets wrist time. I'm just thinking to add a little variation and still be able to retain value.

Nothing short of a unique AP ownership chain (like documented ownership by some famous personality whose cache adds value) will keep pace with your A s/n Daytona. Because it was the last of the line before Rolex switched movements, I believe it’s value would outpace most comparable brands.

Originally Posted by Mikel212

Kind of like selling some Google stock to buy some Amazon.

Can’t agree since the forward earnings of equities are variable and more shares can be printed by either company - but the 5-digit Daytona stock is fixed.

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[blacke90]

OP, have you try on the 41mm ROC? What’s your wrist size?

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by blacke90

Out of curiosity where how did you calculate the $10K loss? Maybe you can tell us more on the 39mm ROC since you brought it up. Look forward to hearing from you.

No problem. The 39mm ROC, either ref. 26300 or 25860, both of more recent production than the A series Daytona 16520 sell, with box and papers, for under 20K and probably closer to 17K. That's less than a 15300 would be today. An A series 16520 with B/P is more in the range of 25 to 29K. The 39mm ROC had a short production duration and has been discontinued for about seven years.
If there has been no fire lit under the popularity of the discontinued 39mm series of ROC, why would the 38mm ROC be any different?