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Jeff · 14 July 2007, 11:13 AM

As the title states. Probably a PAM00104 or PAM00164. First what is the difference? and second what can I expect to pay I think msrp is $4400 correct? What will most AD discount them for?

Thanks
Jeff.

edit I think I figured out the difference the 104 has the cyclops and the 164 does not.

miner · 14 July 2007, 03:20 PM

The only difference is the dial. The 164 has a full set of numbers like so:

whereas the 104 has "sticks" with just the 12 and 6 numbers like so

The case on the 164 is brushed whereas the case on the 104 is polished.

If you need to know more about the watch the paneristi web site is a good place to start - www.paneristi.com

Cheers

walds11 · 14 July 2007, 06:20 PM

Like Clive said, only differences are the dial and case.

MSRP is $4,900 for both. If you buy BNIB from an AD, you probably won't get much of a discount, maybe 5-10%? They usually throw in an extra OEM strap.

Hee is my 104 on an OEM cashmere strap...

JJ Irani · 14 July 2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner

The only difference is the dial. The 164 has a full set of numbers like so:

whereas the 104 has "sticks" with just the 12 and 6 numbers like so

The case on the 164 is brushed whereas the case on the 104 is polished.

If you need to know more about the watch the paneristi web site is a good place to start - www.paneristi.com

Cheers

That second pic is terrific!!

miner · 15 July 2007, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

That second pic is terrific!!

Its not mine though JJ
Nicked it from the paneristi site
Should have fessed up when I posted it. Apologies and acknowledgments to the good folk over there.

Jeff · 15 July 2007, 12:49 AM

Thanks guys. I was looking at both of the pictures of the 104 and 164 for hours and totally missed one not having numbers.

Blue Bull · 15 July 2007, 03:19 AM

I like the polished case better on the Panerai watches.

miner · 15 July 2007, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Bull

I like the polished case better on the Panerai watches.

I think Panerai get this just right, I went for the 164 which has a brushed case and polished bezel and crown guard which looks great and a 112 which has a polished case and bezel and a brushed crown guard. Both watches have a combination of brushed and polished, and both look terrific IMO.

Jeff · 15 July 2007, 03:59 AM

^^ I am leaning toward the 164 with brushed case and polished bezel. brown calf skin strap, black stitching, with some sort of deployment clasp.

miner · 15 July 2007, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

^^ I am leaning toward the 164 with brushed case and polished bezel. brown calf skin strap, black stitching, with some sort of deployment clasp.

My 164 came standard with a honey gator strap and a black rubber strap and a deployant clasp. If you buy the watch from an AD you may be able to swap the standard straps for a couple of your choice. BTW the Ad may not move on the price of the watch so be sure to negotiate a couple of straps as part of the deal. NB the bog standard gator is worth over US$150 so you may want to sell it after you have bought the watch to fund another strap or two.

Gaijin · 15 July 2007, 09:41 AM

Jump on one if you get a discount. Discounts are hard to come by on those.

Rubenonfire · 15 July 2007, 09:47 AM

Quick question about the Panerai's....what does that PAM designation stand for?

dman · 15 July 2007, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubenonfire

Quick question about the Panerai's....what does that PAM designation stand for?

PAnerai Model.

Rubenonfire · 17 July 2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dman

PAnerai Model.

Makes sense. I would have guessed at "Panerai Automatic Movement."

mickiratt · 17 July 2007, 09:21 AM

I think that the PAM 104 on a bracelet would be stunning. I always liked the Panerai bracelet.

Jeff · 19 July 2007, 06:19 AM

Picking up the 164 tomorrow after work.

slim · 19 July 2007, 02:52 PM

I just recently purchased a 104. I shopped around for 2 months. I was unsuccesful in finding an AD that would offer a discount. Goodluck!

walds11 · 19 July 2007, 07:25 PM

I bought my 104 pre-owned and saved a bundle.

14 July 2007, 11:13 AM	#1
Jeff "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 124	Looking to get a Panerai As the title states. Probably a PAM00104 or PAM00164. First what is the difference? and second what can I expect to pay I think msrp is $4400 correct? What will most AD discount them for? Thanks Jeff. edit I think I figured out the difference the 104 has the cyclops and the 164 does not.

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14 July 2007, 03:20 PM	#2
miner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,294	The only difference is the dial. The 164 has a full set of numbers like so: whereas the 104 has "sticks" with just the 12 and 6 numbers like so The case on the 164 is brushed whereas the case on the 104 is polished. If you need to know more about the watch the paneristi web site is a good place to start - www.paneristi.com Cheers

15 July 2007, 12:49 AM	#6
Jeff "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 124	Thanks guys. I was looking at both of the pictures of the 104 and 164 for hours and totally missed one not having numbers.

15 July 2007, 03:19 AM	#7
Blue Bull Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,887	I like the polished case better on the Panerai watches.

15 July 2007, 03:59 AM	#9
Jeff "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 124	^^ I am leaning toward the 164 with brushed case and polished bezel. brown calf skin strap, black stitching, with some sort of deployment clasp.

15 July 2007, 09:41 AM	#11
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,180	Jump on one if you get a discount. Discounts are hard to come by on those.

15 July 2007, 09:47 AM	#12
Rubenonfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Ruben Location: Orange County Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,317	Quick question about the Panerai's....what does that PAM designation stand for?

17 July 2007, 09:21 AM	#15
mickiratt Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Steve Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 162	I think that the PAM 104 on a bracelet would be stunning. I always liked the Panerai bracelet.

19 July 2007, 06:19 AM	#16
Jeff "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 124	Picking up the 164 tomorrow after work.

19 July 2007, 02:52 PM	#17
slim "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: los angeles/SD Watch: RG DD,SD43,Pam104 Posts: 380	I just recently purchased a 104. I shopped around for 2 months. I was unsuccesful in finding an AD that would offer a discount. Goodluck!

19 July 2007, 07:25 PM	#18
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,632	I bought my 104 pre-owned and saved a bundle.

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