Bracelet Remove- Scratch Damage.

[uansari1]

Thanks guys...I have the Horofix version of the Bergeon 6825 with regular and fine tips...the fine tips are already starting to snap, so I ordered the Bergeon 7825 as well and will leave that for Rolex-only duty. :)

[sheldonsmith]

I have a discussion and images on bracelet removal here: https://www.minus4plus6.com/maintenance.php

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by uansari1

Lessons learned...don't use a screwdriver to do a spring bar tools job. Ever.

Disagree, I find watchmakers scredrivers often easier for springbars than the Rolex ref.3200
I never leave a mark, not even on gold.
Use tape

[watchmework]

Get the right tool for the job, no sense in settling for something cheaper that will only mess up your watch and bracelet.

[nikesupremedunk]

I tinkered on my seiko and learned the basics. Then I invested in the bergeon tool even though I thought it was crazy to spend $150 on a tweezer. But it worked like magic and I would make my money back the more I use it. Definitely worth the high cost.

[uansari1]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Disagree, I find watchmakers scredrivers often easier for springbars than the Rolex ref.3200
I never leave a mark, not even on gold.
Use tape

You're welcome to disagree...however, it's difficult to argue that a screwdriver is superior to a tool that compresses both ends of the spring bar simultaneously. I do agree on using tape, especially if one is new to bracelet removal.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by uansari1

You're welcome to disagree...however, it's difficult to argue that a screwdriver is superior to a tool that compresses both ends of the spring bar simultaneously. I do agree on using tape, especially if one is new to bracelet removal.

Depends on the watch and on the state of the springbar and the amount of dirt buildup etc. I've had a lot of watches (Rolex and non-Rolex) in my hand that were easier with a screwdriver.

[uansari1]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Depends on the watch, I've had a lot of watches (Rolex and non-Rolex) in my hand that were easier with a screwdriver.

Ok then...you are no doubt in the great minority of people on this man.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by uansari1

Ok then...you are no doubt in the great minority of people on this man.

All the watchmakers from who I've learned do it the same, I know a few very skilled ones who only use the screwdriver and nothing else because of preference.

[uansari1]

Originally Posted by SearChart

All the watchmakers from who I've learned do it the same, I know a few very skilled ones who only use the screwdriver and nothing else because of preference.

Oh, I didn't realize you're a watchmaker. Mine uses his Rolex 3200. Regardless, I was referring to the majority of us WIS-type folks. You could always take a poll if you really think most people on this forum prefer a screwdriver.

Anyway, good luck to you.

[Director EDTF]

My watches have plenty of character! Don't worry you'll improve and when you get the watch serviced they will take care of it.

[Tazmo]

What is the correct tool to use for pin removal?

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by uansari1

Oh, I didn't realize you're a watchmaker. Mine uses his Rolex 3200. Regardless, I was referring to the majority of us WIS-type folks. You could always take a poll if you really think most people on this forum prefer a screwdriver.

Anyway, good luck to you.

Like I said, the 3200 is fine, I use it too but it's not always the best choice.
I don't need a poll to tell me anything, I only posted because what you said about a screwdriver wasn't necessary true. But for your average watch enthusiast: use a dedicated tool, and use tape!

[Emmanuel69]

I've done done the same before and never again will I mess with it! I've learned my lesson...

[Shaky]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Like I said, the 3200 is fine, I use it too but it's not always the best choice.
I don't need a poll to tell me anything, I only posted because what you said about a screwdriver wasn't necessary true. But for your average watch enthusiast: use a dedicated tool, and use tape!

You like what you like sir.

Your advice holds true for the majority of us though. The right tool and tape is the way forward

[GB-man]

Wtf I thought buying a 3200 if I can get one at cost was going to be a home run. Now I'm no so sure lol

[uansari1]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Like I said, the 3200 is fine, I use it too but it's not always the best choice.
I don't need a poll to tell me anything, I only posted because what you said about a screwdriver wasn't necessary true. But for your average watch enthusiast: use a dedicated tool, and use tape!

That's all I've been saying, so I'm unsure why you felt the need to argue in favor of a screwdriver earlier. Glad to see you're opinion for the "average watch enthusiast" is in line with mine.

For those that are interested, you can pick up a Bergeon 7825 for under $150 on eBay. Easiest and safest way to take off a Rolex bracelet, and the shape of the tips seem better constructed than the 6825 and similar models.

[Rashid.bk]

This is the only thing I'd use. It's the one I've seen Rolex AD jewelers use with the watch inside a case holder.

I've tried using that springbar tool and it's horrible for the average guy. I had a Rubber B put on my Deepsea and the jeweler changed it out right in front of in like five minutes, later on I tried usin one putting the bracelet back on...slipped twice and then I stopped for fear of damaging it being persistent.

I have a 3200 and it works like a charm. Get the right tools. I wouldn't take my M3 to jiffy lube for an oil change no matter how good you claim it is. Just like I would prefer to let a watchmaker tinker with my watch and never let one of those mall watch repair shops touch my Rolex or AP, myself being included a level under those hack shops.

Originally Posted by zesty55

I don't have enough
experience to tell you. You can see pics if that tells anything below. They don't have long prongs at all, so that probably helps avoid snapping. They seem great so far. Maybe the tips will wear out at some point, must be some reason the tips can be removed, I'm guessing to replace if dull/broken.

[Bigsykedaddy]

You can also use this tool. It's from Esslinger and it is about half the price and works just as well. It comes with a few different tips as well so you can use it on all sorts of spring bars.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Wtf I thought buying a 3200 if I can get one at cost was going to be a home run. Now I'm no so sure lol

It's a great tool but the prices are ridiculously high, one sold on TRF for $650!!! I mean, whaaat?

Got mine for 'free' lol.

[MrInternational]

One listed on the bay for 659.99


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[RichburgHill]

Take that to an AD and have them hit it on the brush wheel for a few seconds and it is gone, easy as that. They shouldn't charge you either, super easy to fix.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by MrInternational

One listed on the bay for 659.99


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Yeah that is just crazy

[MrInternational]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Yeah that is just crazy

My offer for $180 was rejected (not even countered). Pretty proud for a fancy set of tweezers!


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