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Old 21 December 2019, 08:37 AM   #1
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RO vs Rolex

Most will agree that AP is probably a step up from Rolex. My question as a newbie is this: which Rolex model would you say is the ‘equivalent’ to a steel RO (in terms of levels)? I know it’s a matter of opinion, but, for example, is the RO a step up from the two tone bluesy? Is it a step up from Rolex pm?

I would say they are possibly somewhere between Rolex TT and Rolex PM for what it’s worth. Interested to hear the thoughts of more experienced people...
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Old 21 December 2019, 08:41 AM   #2
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I would say due to the over priced 2nd market. The SS Ceramic Daytonas would be similar to a SS RO.

I would say a PM model rolex would be higher than a SS RO.

Do you guys agree?
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Old 21 December 2019, 08:47 AM   #3
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I would say due to the over priced 2nd market. The SS Ceramic Daytonas would be similar to a SS RO.

I would say a PM model rolex would be higher than a SS RO.

Do you guys agree?
Yes, I would tend to agree with that.
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Old 21 December 2019, 09:19 AM   #4
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Old 21 December 2019, 09:46 AM   #5
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Most will agree that AP is probably a step up from Rolex. My question as a newbie is this: which Rolex model would you say is the ‘equivalent’ to a steel RO (in terms of levels)? I know it’s a matter of opinion, but, for example, is the RO a step up from the two tone bluesy? Is it a step up from Rolex pm?

I would say they are possibly somewhere between Rolex TT and Rolex PM for what it’s worth. Interested to hear the thoughts of more experienced people...
Probably?!?

None. They’re apples and oranges. Irrespective of the material there’s still a massive gulf in finishing.
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Old 21 December 2019, 09:57 AM   #6
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Too much apples and oranges. Could be same price, but completely different product experience.

In a way that you can to look past materials used in a RM and focused just on technical engineering (on no, minimal gold vs Rolex PM?), you have to look at it from a completely different lens.

The boutiques have marketing pieces to try on. Recommend you experience it in person to see if the product is for you or not. Plus side is you get it see it with some wear as well.
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Old 21 December 2019, 01:08 PM   #7
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Rolex doesn't make a watch that is equivalent to a RO. In price sure but not based on an objective examination.
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Old 21 December 2019, 02:11 PM   #8
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Rolex doesn't make a watch that is equivalent to a RO. In price sure but not based on an objective examination.
Yep. AP is in another league compared to any Rolex.
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Old 21 December 2019, 02:27 PM   #9
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I would say due to the over priced 2nd market. The SS Ceramic Daytonas would be similar to a SS RO.

I would say a PM model rolex would be higher than a SS RO.

Do you guys agree?


Disagree. SS AP is haute horology whereas Rolex in no metal or combination reaches this level.
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Old 21 December 2019, 07:33 PM   #10
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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
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Old 21 December 2019, 08:16 PM   #11
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probably?!?

None. They’re apples and oranges. Irrespective of the material there’s still a massive gulf in finishing.
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Old 21 December 2019, 10:18 PM   #12
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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
I think people get too hung up on raw materials. Yes, gold is very nice and good.

But as an extreme analogy, let’s say you have a water color painted Monet, would oil have been better? Yes. But that water color Monet would still be better ‘art’ then a lot of other oil paintings out there even though the raw material was cheaper.

Rolex is a great watch and brand, most of what I now own is Rolex, but it’s also a huge value discount proposition when you think about what you get vs AP and Patek. Part of the reason I have more Rolex than other brands.

As an only watch, yes I would take the DD. As a 4th or 5th watch in a strong collection, I would want the AP IMHO.
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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
It's not that clear cut, for some the finishing and movement are paramount for others the PM Content, it's all about your personal style, I like a bit of both.
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Old 21 December 2019, 11:27 PM   #14
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Both are great watches but it comes down to personal preference including price. I can buy any watch I want sub 200k and I have never consider an AP or many other brands. Personal preference.
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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
Not if I had to pay for it. If it was given to me I would do it and sell it to buy the ro and keep the change. But gold simply for the sake of it does nothing for me.
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Old 22 December 2019, 12:54 AM   #16
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Thanks for your comments. 126710 BLNR plus £3k cash for a white 15450 2018 B+P. Would you do it?
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Old 22 December 2019, 02:32 AM   #17
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Thanks for your comments. 126710 BLNR plus £3k cash for a white 15450 2018 B+P. Would you do it?
Yes, if the price is fair.
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Old 22 December 2019, 04:10 AM   #18
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Rolex doesn't make a watch that is equivalent to a RO. In price sure but not based on an objective examination.
There’s just no better way to say it.
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Old 22 December 2019, 04:32 AM   #19
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Thanks for your comments. 126710 BLNR plus £3k cash for a white 15450 2018 B+P. Would you do it?

If AP is in good condition, seems like a no brained, assuming you don’t think BLNR is the #1 best watch ever.

Would also no do it if you are lukewarm to AP styling. But trade wise is a very good offer.
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There’s just no better way to say it.
Love Rolex but agree. Like comparing a Mercedes to a Bentley.
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Old 22 December 2019, 05:09 AM   #21
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As you will find in watches, it’s not the materials that drive value for collectors. In fact, most collectors would seek out SS than PM.

It’s all about finishing and the amount of art that is in the watch. ROC far exceeds that of a Daytona, but both of their own place in a collection.


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Old 22 December 2019, 05:22 AM   #22
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Rolex makes 20 times more watches than AP yearly, so if AP retains a little better value than Rolex, its no big deal IMO!
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Old 22 December 2019, 08:07 AM   #23
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Yes, if the price is fair.
Sorry, not sure what you mean by this?
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Old 22 December 2019, 08:56 AM   #24
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Sorry, not sure what you mean by this?
If it is the market rate, I don't know it.
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Old 22 December 2019, 10:03 AM   #25
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They both serve their respective purposes. AP for a more restrained day at work. Rolex for work, gym and play.
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Old 22 December 2019, 03:23 PM   #26
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For finishing, AP better. For usability, Rolex better. For prestige, AP better. For brand awareness and recognition, Rolex better. For exclusivity, AP better. For resale, Rolex better.
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None. To me a 20k Royal Oak is better finished than a 35k+ Day Date or Daytona.
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watch experiences are subjective. that said, i echo what many have already said in that the style of watch rolex produces is not the same as what gerald genta did with the royal oak. they're completely different looks. buy and wear what you like, not what a brand dictates
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For finishing, AP better. For usability, Rolex better. For prestige, AP better. For brand awareness and recognition, Rolex better. For exclusivity, AP better. For resale, Rolex better.

Very accurate summary right here.


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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
No offense but I prefer the rarity of the AP. I like that fewer people on the street would recognize an AP vs a Rolex. They make two completely different statements. Like comparing a Bentley to a Mercedes both are great cars but are hard to directly compare because they are built toward different objectives and clientele.
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