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Old 3 August 2020, 04:31 PM   #31
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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
Nope. I chose the ap diver with bracelet over the gold rolex gmt. Rolex are dog 💩 compared to ap and i own two rolex. I would compare rolex to omega and even then i would pick my speedy pro over my gmt everyday of the week.
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Old 3 August 2020, 05:39 PM   #32
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I have three Rolex and for what they are, I don’t think anything can touch them. But AP is in a different league.

I don’t think by having a Rolex in precious metal suddenly puts it in the same category as a steel Royal Oak. Sure, if you see watches as jewellery and appreciate precious metal over finishing and movements, then a PM Rolex wins, but I don’t see it this way.

I have a white gold Daytona and I’m a huge fan of it, but would choose my steel Royal Oaks and Offshores over it.


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Old 3 August 2020, 05:50 PM   #33
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It depends on what you compare. Maybe the 116500 white over the 26331st Panda. However, there is no Rolex that you can compare with 15202st.
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Old 3 August 2020, 07:41 PM   #34
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I hear what everyone is saying. But surely you’d take a YG DD40 over a steel RO (in terms of which one is more ‘special’)?
I have the Diver (the most basic AP), its just not in the same league as the Rolex. I have been looking at PM Rolex this last week, 40mm DayDate in WG, 40mm Sub in YG. I am going for the 15500, its just feels more special.

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Old 3 August 2020, 08:02 PM   #35
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I have the Diver (the most basic AP), its just not in the same league as the Rolex. I have been looking at PM Rolex this last week, 40mm DayDate in WG, 40mm Sub in YG. I am going for the 15500, its just feels more special.

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Old 3 August 2020, 11:25 PM   #36
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To each their own, no need to compare these two big brands together. It's totally personal taste or preference, most people own both.

If both of them are the public company and have their stock trade in the market, I would choose to own Rolex stock more than AP stock.
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Old 3 August 2020, 11:39 PM   #37
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To each their own, no need to compare these two big brands together. It's totally personal taste or preference, most people own both.

If both of them are the public company and have their stock trade in the market, I would choose to own Rolex stock more than AP stock.

Well said.

Why call a watch brand dog-sh*t on a forum dedicated to watches. It’s lame.
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Old 3 August 2020, 11:55 PM   #38
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for finishing, ap better. For usability, rolex better. For prestige, ap better. For brand awareness and recognition, rolex better. For exclusivity, ap better. For resale, rolex better.
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Old 3 August 2020, 11:56 PM   #39
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Rolex doesn't make a watch that is equivalent to a RO. In price sure but not based on an objective examination.


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For finishing, AP better. For usability, Rolex better. For prestige, AP better. For brand awareness and recognition, Rolex better. For exclusivity, AP better. For resale, Rolex better.
There was just a lengthy thread covering this same topic on the Rolex portion of the forum. Everyone has their own personal preferences / bias but I think these two quotes sum it up perfectly. Although in the current market conditions a RO does hold value just as well as a Rolex, long term is anyone’s guess.
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Old 4 August 2020, 12:09 AM   #40
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I want this diver, a special one!
I’ve tried on that reference and it is amazing
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Old 4 August 2020, 12:27 AM   #41
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About a month or so ago I was looking hard into either AP/PP or a gold Rolex.
I kept sending the Mrs pieces I liked... finally she came out with it.
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"Aren't you ready to upgrade from Rolex"
Ordered a 15400 Blue dial soon after.
Not a single regret.
I have three Rolex still and will probably keep them, but the AP is in a different league IMO.
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Old 4 August 2020, 02:53 AM   #42
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My SS Rolex's are my favorite daily watches. They are more comfortable. I don't worry about them taking a hit or two. And they are great looking pieces. I love them and will continue to buy more of them.

However, NOTHING that Rolex makes in SS or PM is comparable in terms of fit and finish to a SS RO...

As others have already said, AP is simply in a different league.

To put it in perspective for those that haven't yet experienced AP ownership, I would compare the gap between Rolex and AP to be similar to the gap between a brand like Oris and Rolex.

^ I know that may be a controversial statement but it's the best way I can illustrate the gap between these two manufacturers for those that don't have personal experience with AP.

I remember how much of an overall quality difference there was when I went from my Oris Aquis to my first SS Rolex Sub. That same feeling hit me when I got my first SS RO. It's just a league above anything that Rolex produces.
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Old 4 August 2020, 09:17 AM   #43
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I owned a ceramic SS Daytona and an RO. Huge gap in the elegance of the case/bracelet finishing. Like most replies here, no comparison with the latter being superior. I like the weight as well of the RO on my wrist. That said, they are both keepers.
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Old 4 August 2020, 09:17 AM   #44
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Own and love both. There is no question that the RO finishing is miles better but that is also the reason why I enjoy wearing the Rolex. Less of a worry on a night out even in PM because I know it’s less likely to show blemishes.
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Old 4 August 2020, 11:46 PM   #45
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For finishing, AP better. For usability, Rolex better. For prestige, AP better. For brand awareness and recognition, Rolex better. For exclusivity, AP better. For resale, Rolex better.
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Old 5 August 2020, 01:23 AM   #46
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Most will agree that AP is probably a step up from Rolex. My question as a newbie is this: which Rolex model would you say is the ‘equivalent’ to a steel RO (in terms of levels)? I know it’s a matter of opinion, but, for example, is the RO a step up from the two tone bluesy? Is it a step up from Rolex pm?

I would say they are possibly somewhere between Rolex TT and Rolex PM for what it’s worth. Interested to hear the thoughts of more experienced people...
I believe it’s not comparable in those terms. Materials are one thing, finish is another. The finish on an AP will be better than the finish of a Rolex regardless of material. But the material of a gold Rolex is of course more expensive than that of a steel AP.
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Old 5 August 2020, 01:25 AM   #47
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To each their own, no need to compare these two big brands together. It's totally personal taste or preference, most people own both.

If both of them are the public company and have their stock trade in the market, I would choose to own Rolex stock more than AP stock.
Most people own both? I‘m really happy most people are doing that well
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Old 5 August 2020, 02:20 AM   #48
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Most people own both? I‘m really happy most people are doing that well
You may have just been joking, but I think it was implied the “people” he was referring to are the AP owners on this forum. If this is the case he is correct. Most people here do own both.
By the way Nav thank you for the knowledge you’ve been sharing in your recent posts regarding movements and finishing. It has been insightful
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Old 5 August 2020, 05:18 AM   #49
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I think owning both isn’t that much of an issue, if you work hard enough or smart enough. In terms of branding, pricing and finishing, AP is indeed a step up compared to Rolex, especially their bracelets, which is artful! But those aren’t so user friendly in daily life due to the absence of micro-adjustment mechanisms, plus it’s just painful to look at a beautifully finished work to be scratched, while I got no problem leaving marks on my Daytonas. Although I also have no problem rocking ROOs all day long, it’s just the bracelets on RO are too nice to be damaged.

As for Rolex, I don’t think any of them are worth the hype. Very nicely made watches and rock solid for daily beating but that’s just it, I used to go a long way (playing the AD games, etc.) to get myself the 116500LN Panda, and I found myself deeply disappointed by the actual white dial, so I turned it down and switched to the 116500LN Black dial, which IMHO is so much better, then sourced an additional 116519LN steel dial on oysterflex, the perfect PN dial IMO, as for models other than the Daytona, I’d say just leave them, stop chasing
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Old 5 August 2020, 05:28 AM   #50
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Most people own both? I‘m really happy most people are doing that well
Haha I would agree that most AP owners own both but most Rolex owners do not also own AP.
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Old 5 August 2020, 06:23 AM   #51
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Rolex doesn't make a watch that is equivalent to a RO. In price sure but not based on an objective examination.

That’s what I was thinking too. Nothing wrong with Rolex though.


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Old 5 August 2020, 06:30 AM   #52
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For sure. Lately my Rolex have fit my needs more so than the RO to be honest. But that doesn’t mean I think they are comparable.
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I think owning both isn’t that much of an issue, if you work hard enough or smart enough. In terms of branding, pricing and finishing, AP is indeed a step up compared to Rolex, especially their bracelets, which is artful! But those aren’t so user friendly in daily life due to the absence of micro-adjustment mechanisms, plus it’s just painful to look at a beautifully finished work to be scratched, while I got no problem leaving marks on my Daytonas. Although I also have no problem rocking ROOs all day long, it’s just the bracelets on RO are too nice to be damaged.

As for Rolex, I don’t think any of them are worth the hype. Very nicely made watches and rock solid for daily beating but that’s just it, I used to go a long way (playing the AD games, etc.) to get myself the 116500LN Panda, and I found myself deeply disappointed by the actual white dial, so I turned it down and switched to the 116500LN Black dial, which IMHO is so much better, then sourced an additional 116519LN steel dial on oysterflex, the perfect PN dial IMO, as for models other than the Daytona, I’d say just leave them, stop chasing
I feel exactly the same. I was chasing the 116500LN Panda for years and then when I finally found one and put it on the wrist it was, meh... No offense to anyone but the white dial looks like plastic. For MSRP fair but for twice MSRP it's overpriced and I would rather go PM Daytona. I realize now why Rolex saves the sunburst dials for the PM. PM Daytona is the only way to go but for the price I would rather have an AP.
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Old 5 August 2020, 07:24 AM   #54
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You may have just been joking, but I think it was implied the “people” he was referring to are the AP owners on this forum. If this is the case he is correct. Most people here do own both.
By the way Nav thank you for the knowledge you’ve been sharing in your recent posts regarding movements and finishing. It has been insightful
Indeed, that was just a light hearted quip, knowing first hand how one can appreciate both :)

Thanks a lot for the kind words my friend, happy if what little proximity I have to the subject can be of interest.
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Old 5 August 2020, 08:53 AM   #55
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I'd take AO over rolex anyday to wear personally.
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Old 5 August 2020, 06:15 PM   #56
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Personally i wear my Rolex as my daily during work. Other than that its my AP or Tudor.

There's no denying Rolex is infinitely more comfortable than most APs. But as many mentioned AP is just miles apart in terms of quality.

If you had to do a comparison i would say the Daytona is almost the equivalent of an RO in SS but just a few steps lower.

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