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paceme2 · 27 February 2006, 02:03 PM

I am very close to purchasing a Daytona from a AD. The few he gets himself with open papers go to individuals who spend a whole lot more than I do. This AD keeps a couple on hand at all times and we are close to a deal on one that is brand new but does not have open papers. My question (that I am going to ask him) but what to hear from you first is---

Does the warranty start when the papers were dated with someone else's name? I can't imagine any other way. My concern is that I won't have a true 2 year warranty.

Also does the F serial numbered Daytona have the fat hands or did that only start with the D serial number?

Launch Mini · 27 February 2006, 02:25 PM

I believe the warranty starts with the date on the papers, regardless of the name.
Not so sure about the fat hands.
JJ or Padi will fill you in pretty quick on that one.

JJ Irani · 27 February 2006, 03:16 PM

Welcome to TRF, pal. Yes, some Daytonas, especially black dial, did come out with a few "fat" hands in the F-series.

Cheers - JJ

C.J. · 27 February 2006, 05:29 PM

Welcome to TRF paceme2

it looks as though you got your answers by John and JJ so I'll just add Good luck with the acquisition

and let us know how it turns out

padi56 · 27 February 2006, 07:27 PM

Welcome to TRF paceme2 your questions have been answered the warranty normally starts from the date stamp when sold by the AD.

AJC · 27 February 2006, 09:58 PM

I thought I heard somewhere that the new warranty was only applicable to the original owner.

This may only apply to certain countries,then again it may be total BS.

Aaron

Earl · 28 February 2006, 03:01 AM

I maybe wrong but, I thought the warranty was valid for the entire year or 2 depending the situation no matter if the watch got flipped by the likes of JJ !!!! roflmao

JJ Irani · 28 February 2006, 03:05 AM

The warranty should be valid from the actual date stamped (or handwritten) on the warranty certificate. See picture below which states that my watch was purchased on the 8th Feb. 2006.

Even if I sell it say a year down the line (which I won't

), the new owner gets the benefit of only the balance of the warranty, i.e. one year only.

JJ

dman · 28 February 2006, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJC

I thought I heard somewhere that the new warranty was only applicable to the original owner.

This may only apply to certain countries,then again it may be total BS.

Aaron

Aaron, I know from personal expierence with a watch that passed through my hands for a week or so that it is only transferable if you can make a cock and bull story like it was a gift, that is why the name is another persons. At least that was the case here in the states.

dman · 28 February 2006, 04:40 AM

Sorry, a big welcome to TRF paceme2, glad to have you here and good luck with the deal.

SLRdude · 28 February 2006, 05:23 AM

I purchased a white SS Daytona from an AD a few months ago (fat hands F series).
If there is a name on the warranty paper, Rolex will only honor the warranty if the original owner sends the watch in.
If there is no name on the warranty papers, just a date, then you are OK.

28 February 2006, 05:42 AM

I'm in Canada and purchased my Rolex a month after the papers were put into someone else's name (the purchaser made the critical error of not telling his wife, then took a bath on resale).

When I bought the watch from a reseller in Toronto, I immediately took the watch to Rolex Canada, to swap it over into my name, serial number-wise, and while there, they cracked the caseback and gave it a once over.

They never once asked for the papers (even though I told them I just bought it second hand) and did the deal and told me in no uncertain terms that I had the balance of the warranty coverage, which was 23 months.

However, the balanace of a two year warranty on a tough watch like a Rolex is moot. While I have heard of people who have had an issue or two within that time period, it's been a miniscule percentage.

One trick to do, however... just before the warranty runs out, send it in with a cock and bull story about it being off an unacceptable amount per day, and they'll open it, clean it and regulate it, all free of charge (at least, Rolex Canada will do this).

BTW, if you're getting the holy grail of Rolex, I think the least of your concerns is the amount of time left on the warranty. Get it at list and enjoy!

Rockrolex · 28 February 2006, 12:20 PM

Let me add my welcome to TRF, paceme2. Glad you could join us. As for the warranty issue, I wouldn't sweat it. As Johnny pointed out, the chances of something going wrong with a tough watch like a Daytona is sufficiently miniscule that the warranty will be practically meaningless. Just go for it and post pics when its on your wrist.

dfn8tly · 1 March 2006, 02:16 AM

Careful with the info.

PACEME2, welcome to a wonderful international forum. All of the knowledgable, kind gentlemen (and ladies) here will do everything they can to provide accuarate information and advise.

However, please note that warranties and marketing strategies in the U.S. and Europe are entirely different. In some cases you may as well be talking different planets. This subject has been discussed ad nauseam here and on other forums. I'm not inclined to start all over again.

If you have specific questions, feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share whatever information I have regarding the differences.

One quick thought. If your AD is trying to sell you a BNIB watch with someone else's name on the warranty there is something VERY wrong. Just me personal opinion.

Earl · 1 March 2006, 04:13 AM

"One quick thought. If your AD is trying to sell you a BNIB watch with someone else's name on the warranty there is something VERY wrong. Just me personal opinion.
__________________
Richard"

So true Richard!!!

hmmmm, if there is another persons name on the warranty then can we expect 1.5 - 2.5% discount over and beyond the original 15-25% for every letter in the name? Or is this just wishful thinking ??? ;o)

JJ Irani · 1 March 2006, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl

"One quick thought. If your AD is trying to sell you a BNIB watch with someone else's name on the warranty there is something VERY wrong. Just me personal opinion.
__________________
Richard"

So true Richard!!!

hmmmm, if there is another persons name on the warranty then can we expect 1.5 - 2.5% discount over and beyond the original 15-25% for every letter in the name? Or is this just wishful thinking ??? ;o)

Actually since he's an AD, I really wouldn't worry too much about it. What must have happened is this: The original owner must have had a change of heart for that watch and wanted another one instead. So he gives it back to the AD, probably loses some money on it, and takes another model instead.

Now the AD is stuck with this one, so he resells it back, making a small profit in the bargain. As long as you're dealing with an AD, I really don't think there's too much to worry about.

JJ

JJ Irani · 1 March 2006, 04:19 AM

There are two ADs here in Auckland. BOTH of them have had instances where a person has picked up a watch only to return it a week or so later and trade it in for a completely different make and model.

The dealer then resells this watch as a "Used Rolex" because it already has the date written on the warranty sheet. However, for all practical purposes the watch is still as good as new....and the new buyer might actually benefit from this sale as the dealer can give him a good discount on it....depending on how well (in financial terms) he's traded it in from the other guy.

JJ

dman · 1 March 2006, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

There are two ADs here in Auckland. BOTH of them have had instances where a person has picked up a watch only to return it a week or so later and trade it in for a completely different make and model.

The dealer then resells this watch as a "Used Rolex" because it already has the date written on the warranty sheet. However, for all practical purposes the watch is still as good as new....and the new buyer might actually benefit from this sale as the dealer can give him a good discount on it....depending on how well (in financial terms) he's traded it in from the other guy.

JJ

That is what I was talking about yesterday with the LV at my dealers shop. If it is worn out of the store, "technically" they have to call it LNIB not BNIB.

JJ Irani · 1 March 2006, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dman

That is what I was talking about yesterday with the LV at my dealers shop. If it is worn out of the store, "technically" they have to call it LNIB not BNIB.

Agreed...100% !!

27 February 2006, 02:03 PM	#1
paceme2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: US Posts: 3	Question on Daytona purchase. I am very close to purchasing a Daytona from a AD. The few he gets himself with open papers go to individuals who spend a whole lot more than I do. This AD keeps a couple on hand at all times and we are close to a deal on one that is brand new but does not have open papers. My question (that I am going to ask him) but what to hear from you first is--- Does the warranty start when the papers were dated with someone else's name? I can't imagine any other way. My concern is that I won't have a true 2 year warranty. Also does the F serial numbered Daytona have the fat hands or did that only start with the D serial number? Last edited by paceme2; 27 February 2006 at 02:04 PM..

27 February 2006, 02:25 PM	#2
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	I believe the warranty starts with the date on the papers, regardless of the name. Not so sure about the fat hands. JJ or Padi will fill you in pretty quick on that one. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

27 February 2006, 03:16 PM	#3
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Welcome to TRF, pal. Yes, some Daytonas, especially black dial, did come out with a few "fat" hands in the F-series. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

27 February 2006, 05:29 PM	#4
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Welcome to TRF paceme2 it looks as though you got your answers by John and JJ so I'll just add Good luck with the acquisition and let us know how it turns out __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

27 February 2006, 07:27 PM	#5
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,418	Welcome to TRF paceme2 your questions have been answered the warranty normally starts from the date stamp when sold by the AD. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

27 February 2006, 09:58 PM	#6
AJC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 1,878	I thought I heard somewhere that the new warranty was only applicable to the original owner. This may only apply to certain countries,then again it may be total BS. Aaron

28 February 2006, 03:01 AM	#7
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	I maybe wrong but, I thought the warranty was valid for the entire year or 2 depending the situation no matter if the watch got flipped by the likes of JJ !!!! roflmao

28 February 2006, 03:05 AM	#8
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	The warranty should be valid from the actual date stamped (or handwritten) on the warranty certificate. See picture below which states that my watch was purchased on the 8th Feb. 2006. Even if I sell it say a year down the line (which I won't ), the new owner gets the benefit of only the balance of the warranty, i.e. one year only. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

28 February 2006, 04:40 AM	#10
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	Sorry, a big welcome to TRF paceme2, glad to have you here and good luck with the deal. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

28 February 2006, 05:23 AM	#11
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	I purchased a white SS Daytona from an AD a few months ago (fat hands F series). If there is a name on the warranty paper, Rolex will only honor the warranty if the original owner sends the watch in. If there is no name on the warranty papers, just a date, then you are OK. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

28 February 2006, 05:42 AM	#12
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	I'm in Canada and purchased my Rolex a month after the papers were put into someone else's name (the purchaser made the critical error of not telling his wife, then took a bath on resale). When I bought the watch from a reseller in Toronto, I immediately took the watch to Rolex Canada, to swap it over into my name, serial number-wise, and while there, they cracked the caseback and gave it a once over. They never once asked for the papers (even though I told them I just bought it second hand) and did the deal and told me in no uncertain terms that I had the balance of the warranty coverage, which was 23 months. However, the balanace of a two year warranty on a tough watch like a Rolex is moot. While I have heard of people who have had an issue or two within that time period, it's been a miniscule percentage. One trick to do, however... just before the warranty runs out, send it in with a cock and bull story about it being off an unacceptable amount per day, and they'll open it, clean it and regulate it, all free of charge (at least, Rolex Canada will do this). BTW, if you're getting the holy grail of Rolex, I think the least of your concerns is the amount of time left on the warranty. Get it at list and enjoy!

28 February 2006, 12:20 PM	#13
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,560	Let me add my welcome to TRF, paceme2. Glad you could join us. As for the warranty issue, I wouldn't sweat it. As Johnny pointed out, the chances of something going wrong with a tough watch like a Daytona is sufficiently miniscule that the warranty will be practically meaningless. Just go for it and post pics when its on your wrist. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

1 March 2006, 02:16 AM	#14
dfn8tly Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Richard Location: The Villages, FL Watch: GMT-II Posts: 396	Careful with the info. PACEME2, welcome to a wonderful international forum. All of the knowledgable, kind gentlemen (and ladies) here will do everything they can to provide accuarate information and advise. However, please note that warranties and marketing strategies in the U.S. and Europe are entirely different. In some cases you may as well be talking different planets. This subject has been discussed ad nauseam here and on other forums. I'm not inclined to start all over again. If you have specific questions, feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share whatever information I have regarding the differences. One quick thought. If your AD is trying to sell you a BNIB watch with someone else's name on the warranty there is something VERY wrong. Just me personal opinion.

1 March 2006, 04:13 AM	#15
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	"One quick thought. If your AD is trying to sell you a BNIB watch with someone else's name on the warranty there is something VERY wrong. Just me personal opinion. __________________ Richard" So true Richard!!! hmmmm, if there is another persons name on the warranty then can we expect 1.5 - 2.5% discount over and beyond the original 15-25% for every letter in the name? Or is this just wishful thinking ??? ;o)

1 March 2006, 04:19 AM	#17
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	There are two ADs here in Auckland. BOTH of them have had instances where a person has picked up a watch only to return it a week or so later and trade it in for a completely different make and model. The dealer then resells this watch as a "Used Rolex" because it already has the date written on the warranty sheet. However, for all practical purposes the watch is still as good as new....and the new buyer might actually benefit from this sale as the dealer can give him a good discount on it....depending on how well (in financial terms) he's traded it in from the other guy. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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