"Rolex military Submariner 5517" : anyone see any problems ?

[Haywood_Milton]

Originally Posted by indianmachine

So in summary, 5517 between the lugs and 5517 on the underside of the lug is not a valid combination?

It is but one aspect of my concerns with this watch, but it is certainly a combination that I have never seen on a correct watch so far.

[Haywood_Milton]

Another image of the Patrizzi watch, and the suspect from Chrono24 rotated :

[pereztroika]

Best is to stay away from both these watches.

Cheers
Jose

[FrenchBigCrown]

Originally Posted by pereztroika

Best is to stay away from both these watches.

Cheers
Jose

[TuRo]

Good shout on that watch, hope the buyer knows what they are doing - but I suspect not.....
Ps as I've had a lot to do with C24/Xupes etc in the last 3 yrs....I have a fast line into Tim's team if anything 'private seller' is dodgy!
The last 8 I reported/advised them of in Dec/Jan, were taken down in 24 hrs. Don't inundate me pls, but happy to ping them one for removal if you let me know it's 100% fake/misrepresented.

[Haywood_Milton]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Good shout on that watch, hope the buyer knows what they are doing - but I suspect not.....
Ps as I've had a lot to do with C24/Xupes etc in the last 3 yrs....I have a fast line into Tim's team if anything 'private seller' is dodgy!
The last 8 I reported/advised them of in Dec/Jan, were taken down in 24 hrs. Don't inundate me pls, but happy to ping them one for removal if you let me know it's 100% fake/misrepresented.

I alerted Chrono24 and (after some pushing) they responded that they had advised the buyer to have a watch-maker authenticate the watch.

That is crazy.

How many watch-makers in the world would authenticate a 5513 that had been doctored to look like a 5517, because the case and movement were made by Rolex? In most instances, that would be like asking a decorator to authenticate a fine artwork and him "authenticating" it because it has indeed been painted!

A watch-maker is a very skilled person and all credit to them, but most have no ability to determine what parts other than the movement are correct or not on a vintage watch.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

I alerted Chrono24 and (after some pushing) they responded that they had advised the buyer to have a watch-maker authenticate the watch.

That is crazy.

How many watch-makers in the world would authenticate a 5513 that had been doctored to look like a 5517, because the case and movement were made by Rolex? In most instances, that would be like asking a decorator to authenticate a fine artwork and him "authenticating" it because it has indeed been painted!

A watch-maker is a very skilled person and all credit to them, but most have no ability to determine what parts other than the movement are correct or not on a vintage watch.

Yes, that's no answer on a watch with clearly at least a brace of issues....should have been taken down, (especially) at the sort of money we are talking about !! I've book marked it for discussion !

[indianmachine]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

I alerted Chrono24 and (after some pushing) they responded that they had advised the buyer to have a watch-maker authenticate the watch.

That is crazy.

How many watch-makers in the world would authenticate a 5513 that had been doctored to look like a 5517, because the case and movement were made by Rolex? In most instances, that would be like asking a decorator to authenticate a fine artwork and him "authenticating" it because it has indeed been painted!

A watch-maker is a very skilled person and all credit to them, but most have no ability to determine what parts other than the movement are correct or not on a vintage watch.

Have to agree. As much as respect a very good watchmaker, these minute dial, case, hands etc variations and nuances are not something most are well versed in.

[TimeLord2]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Another image of the Patrizzi watch, and the suspect from Chrono24 rotated :

The top one looks very crudely engraved and would give me pause jut because of that. But again, I know nothing about these references.