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7 February 2023, 03:13 AM | #31 | |
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I love the durability of sapphire but wonder if it would lose the warm glow and softness if I didn't go acrylic the movement is rusted in a lot of spots, and several pieces are already found to be broken. the watchmaker is figuring out what all needs to be replaced at this point he talked about polishing the case, but honestly I love it to show some wear |
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7 February 2023, 03:16 AM | #32 |
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Go sapphire? You can't be serious. You would consider installing a crappy aftermarket sapphire crystal that isn't appropriate and won't seal properly?
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Improper polishing can destroy the original lines of the case. Maybe it would be better to step back and do some more research before moving forward with the project. You seem to have some very basic questions.
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There are several watch makers who can clean up that dial a bit for you. I would have the movement serviced and the plexi replaced and maybe the crown and that would be it.
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I'd call up a few of the suggested watchmakers people have given you and tell them what your goal(s) are for the watch. They will steer you in the right direction on what to do and what not to do.
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Cool Project, love it !
I think I would clean everything as much as possible: See what can be done with the dial and hands. Clean the date disk Disassemble the case (caseback, retaining ring and midcase), put everything inside a magic watchmaker bath. Polish the crystal (change it if water resistance is not possible with it) Change the crown if needed to achieve water resistance. Service the movement (change any mechanical part that needs it to have a perfectly working movement). At the end of the day, as long as you can use it to read the time, it’s a cool piece of family history you have here, not need to make it new again. Keep us posted :)
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I know what I said earlier, regarding a period correct restoration. However, given the cost of a period correct dial and hands being too costly for you (at this time) I would go the Rolex route. Have them return the dial and hands and no polish to the case unless you want to that is. Rolex will replace all movement parts that need to be replaced and also replace the hands and dial with a Luminova set that will glow. IMO, hands and dial are not attractive and would need to be stabilized at the very least. Take off the bezel insert and place the bezel ring back on before it goes to Rolex as they will place a new insert too, and they are only about $60. By taking off the insert, you won't have to pay them to get it back or remove it. After all is said and done, put it on a NATO. Cost will still be around $2500-$3000 I think. Either way, send it to Rolex, have them authenticate it ($260 or so) get an estimate for Necessary repairs and Optional recommendations.
Alternatively, contact a vintage specialist for an estimate and sourcing original parts so you can truly weigh your next steps. Restoration or Resto-Mod with the potential of finding period correct parts over the coming months/years. Yes, there have been some stories about Rolex polishing when they have been told not to but I do think those are few and far between. In it's current condition, I would go Resto-mod but no on the Sapphire crystal. Dan also makes a good point. "Maybe it would be better to step back and do some more research before moving forward with the project. You seem to have some very basic questions." In the end it is your watch and you will make the final decision. Just keep the original parts (hands, dial, insert). Good Luck! |
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The insert could be sold and fund most of this. Probably the best route if you won't like the patina. |
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Having 15XX movements serviced by Rolex seems to be hit or miss these days, but he can try.
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I was on eBay and noticed some really interesting service dials for 1675s. You could consider this as it would make thé watch amazingly functional. I would just be careful as these are oft faked. The prices seem to be in the 1500 range. I’d get some feedback on here for authenticity bef buying. Good luck !
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First of all, congratulations on a fine timepiece and what a tremendous project for your plans.
Second, and I know I am probably in the minority and will be burned and flamed for saying this. I understand there are lot of purists on here and I completely understand… BUT…. If it were me. I would send it in to the RSC (or private GOOD independent restorer). Let the experts bring it back to life. It may not end up accurate to the particular date of manufacture, but IMHO, that will not detract from it being a fantastic piece of family history and fine timepiece. Just MHO |
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I personally think it is a good option for you to get a reliable outcome with a new start. You don’t seem invested in it’s originality, which is okay. If you can keep your parts, you can always revisit a vintage restoration at a later date. Selling the insert is an option to help funds. While it’s at Rolex perhaps splash out for a bracelet. You will have a legitimate modern 1675 to enjoy for years to come. |
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Some of this is hearsay, but it seems to depend on where you are in the world, and perhaps the specific movement. I just know that it's no longer routine for an RSC to service a 15xx-series movement. Sometimes yes, and sometimes no ... it depends. What does it depend on? No idea. If you want them to service your watch, give it a try, and maybe you will get lucky.
And as of this year, apparently Rolex is no longer supplying parts for those movements to the small number of independents who still have parts accounts in the US. So for vintage watches, the difference between watchmakers with or without a Rolex parts account is shrinking year by year.
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Cheers Australia is becoming almost impossible, regarding parts availability for independents I think. Even a RSC service is a challenge these days with limited service centres. |
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Seems many of those willing to send their 1675 to Rolex went with the Dallas RSC. They will probably send it off to Lititz, PA where their training facility is and apparently where they do vintage. They may or may not ask you to authenticate first, which they did want to do on mine. The cost of that would be folded into the service cost in the end should you choose to go with Rolex and their recommendations. Even when I brought my watch in (RSC, Beverly Hills as I was able to walk it in…), the guy behind the counter suggested I use an Independent. Rolex did provide a service estimate after about 5 weeks. That was 2 years ago. Things seem to have changed dramatically since then. Dan would know better than I as he is a true collector and knows more about any and all of these references than I ever will. Still, worth a shot if you have an RSC in your area. If not, Contact RSC Dallas directly and wrap it up per their instructions and send it off. BTW, tell them exactly what you want done, and don't want done in writing.
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So cool, can't wait to see how this turns out.
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I’m a big fan of the insert. It’s part of that watch’s history. Your father in law was working on it a long time to create that unique look so you’re in danger of losing his hard work.
To some extent if you are swapping lots of bits of this watch then what are you actually saving? That feels particularly true to me when the bezel looks so good. I also think the super fat font gmt bezels are much less common (someone correct me). So it’s a less common bezel with a very nice aged effect. That’s something I don’t think you can ever get back. Bezel info https://gmtmaster1675.com/the-bezel/ |
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What a stunning fat font insert
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Best wishes on your project.
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