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Old 6 July 2020, 01:04 AM   #1
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Is new school social media good or bad for watch collecting enthusiasts?

I would like to know everyones thoughts.

I can see both sides of the coin here. As I wasn't around collecting pre internet age I have no idea what it was like comparatively. I'm speaking of instagram, facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Not necessarily watch forums or websites.

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Old 6 July 2020, 02:50 AM   #2
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Good question. I don't have FB, Instagram etc but if you account the coincidence of increased popularity of social media and the lack of watch stocks at ADs, false exclusivity, gigantic bump in price of the most sought after models on the secondary market, not to mention flippers and investors, I'd say social media ruined everything.
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Old 6 July 2020, 03:48 AM   #3
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I’d venture to say the overall good outweighs the bad but the depth of the bad leaves an overall negative impression.

I love how social media has enabled folks to interchange info rapidly.
I don’t love how little qualifications it takes to be on social media.

I respect journalists and the training they put in. Not fair for anyone behind a keyboard to share something and think they are a journalist.
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Old 6 July 2020, 03:51 AM   #4
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I do enjoy YouTube for the video reviews from people like Mosso. Seeing as I share wrist size with him it realy helps.
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Old 6 July 2020, 04:05 AM   #5
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I don’t have have FB, Instagram, etc either. I think social media has its pros and cons in the watch community. Watches could be overhyped, causing pieces to increase in price and become scarce. This could sway a beginner/watch collector to buy specific models that they may not to like, and pursue something there going to have to pay way over MSRP for. For the sake that a particular model is all over FB, Instagram, etc. That’s why I always feel, you should buy what you like. Not what’s trending.

I do enjoy youtube for watch reviews.
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Old 6 July 2020, 04:17 AM   #6
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I try not to get too defeatist or crotchety about it but Instagram is almost comically toxic and echo-chambery imho. It's not all bad though; there are lots of nice photos on there and I've found some neat stuff by deep-diving Rolex-related hashtags there.
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Old 6 July 2020, 04:19 AM   #7
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Overall good
Makes the knowledge accessible to more fans
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Old 6 July 2020, 05:12 AM   #8
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I do enjoy YouTube for the video reviews from people like Mosso. Seeing as I share wrist size with him it realy helps.
I've watched a few nice videos on youtube as well. If TRF is in the same semantic field I'll have to exclude it too.
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Old 6 July 2020, 05:38 AM   #9
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"Collectors" ruined baseball cards and comic books long before the "internet".

It is the people not the medium.
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Old 6 July 2020, 05:58 AM   #10
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"Collectors" ruined baseball cards and comic books long before the "internet".

It is the people not the medium.
You forgot vinyl records.
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Old 6 July 2020, 08:33 AM   #11
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All depends on specific individual and in what sense good and bad applies.

Can be both good and bad (social media provides knowledge, media, branding, popularity, etc)

But this can also be good and bad (online presence and advertising leads to more demand vs supply, prices go up, more expensive to get into the game)

The perception greatly varies based on how you look at it and what you are trying to get out of the hobby. I roll with the punches and enjoy it to the appreciable extent that I can - and so far have not gotten tired of it.
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Old 6 July 2020, 08:51 AM   #12
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I have yet so see any data on the benefit of social media what so ever. In fact it seems to be making every more miserable than ever and tearing society apart.
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Old 6 July 2020, 09:35 AM   #13
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Old 6 July 2020, 09:44 AM   #14
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I like watching videos by the various watch gurus on YouTube. I have an Amazon Fire TV, so I watch the vast majority of the YouTube videos on my TV. For forums, I primarily just use TRF these days. The YouTube videos are good for expanding my knowledge of brands outside of Rolex and Tudor.
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Old 6 July 2020, 09:55 AM   #15
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I do enjoy YouTube for the video reviews from people like Mosso.
He is very, very good. I haven’t seen any other YouTube reviewers as good, and have watched several. Can anyone recommend someone I might have missed so far on, or near, the level of Tim Mosso?
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If you love Swiss mechanical watches.

And you want the brands to stay healthy.

Then new watch lovers are needed.

So novel SM is almost necessary.

Not FB & IG, that’s old now - something new we haven’t seen before.


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Old 6 July 2020, 11:39 AM   #17
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There was a lot more to be found and at very reasonable prices, pre internet. Cellular internet, has hurt me worse. When buying, I don't mind competing with other peoples knowledge, but it's hard to compete with the entire internet.

The downside, there was a lot less information. For instance, I was not aware of service dials. Either it was a redone (repainted dial), or it was original.
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Only bad if you were into watches before SM but didn’t pull the trigger lol

Overall a huge shot into the arm of an otherwise niche industry.
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I would like to know everyones thoughts.

I can see both sides of the coin here. As I wasn't around collecting pre internet age I have no idea what it was like comparatively. I'm speaking of instagram, facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Not necessarily watch forums or websites.

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Most of what you quote are mostly becoming un-social media sites, and in many ways have harmed many. And almost destroyed the use of there own brain power, as many believe and buy whatever these so called social media sites dictates must have.And as we all know if its on youtube and these other media sites it must be true as many with little own brain power believe it as fact.Social media well speaking for myself you can stick them up where the sun dont shine.
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Most of what you quote are mostly becoming un-social media sites, and in many ways have harmed many. And almost destroyed the use of there own brain power, as many believe and buy whatever these so called social media sites dictates must have.And as we all know if its on youtube and these other media sites it must be true as many with little own brain power believe it as fact.Social media well speaking for myself you can stick them up where the sun dont shine.
Correct. Or as I prefer to call them, "antisocial media."
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Old 6 July 2020, 07:02 PM   #21
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I uses to frequent Reddit for watches and other interests. Had to ditch them because politics has become infused into everything on Reddit. Facebook and Instagram are off the the table because of the ads, privacy issues and my disdain for Mark Z. Twitter is an absolute cesspool of anonymous trolls and political garbage.

As others have suggested, YouTube has some good folks on it. I’ve found it to be helpful at times as long as the comments sections are avoided.

Personally, I think new school social media is to the soul as cigarettes are to the body. Research supports this view.
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Old 6 July 2020, 10:12 PM   #22
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Both.

Great to bring attention to mechanical watches. Bad that it promotes flipping culture.
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I see it as a good thing as it leads to a more timely discovery of impressive timepieces. In the old days we'd have to wait months for print mags to 'bestow' their 'wisdom' about new and vintage timepieces. This was VERY LIMITED data as compared to today's Internet possibilities.

The same with show reports. Imagine waiting for print publications to see the new releases. No video, just a pic or three.
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Old 6 July 2020, 11:58 PM   #24
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I see it as a good thing as it leads to a more timely discovery of impressive timepieces. In the old days we'd have to wait months for print mags to 'bestow' their 'wisdom' about new and vintage timepieces. This was VERY LIMITED data as compared to today's Internet possibilities.

The same with show reports. Imagine waiting for print publications to see the new releases. No video, just a pic or three.
See I have to respectfully disagree, everything now is too easy. I want this, click here, everyone can get/anything they want with little to no effort. Personally I miss the days where some effort was involved, actually seeing things/people in person. I don't need to see everything in person, and do like the quick info/buying/shipping of certain things. For me the search, and old school homework on a timepiece is and was one of the coolest things for me. I sure I'm in the minority here, I just like the simplicity at times of an age gone....
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Old 7 July 2020, 02:05 AM   #25
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Social media is an inanimate thing. It doesn't have feelings or make you do things. It's individual based, if you are predisposed and easily influenced then you will be affected accordingly, positively/negatively or good or bad. It's you, not it.
For me I know what I want, it's another research tool for what I want to research information on, period. It's also entertainment, I use it to just look at things that interest me like when I own a 4Runner, I look at 4Runner things......to pass the time.

Although, I don't have any active social media accounts, except instagram in which I don't post or share anything.
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"Collectors" ruined baseball cards and comic books long before the "internet".

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Old 7 July 2020, 09:26 AM   #29
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I would like to know everyones thoughts.

I can see both sides of the coin here. As I wasn't around collecting pre internet age I have no idea what it was like comparatively. I'm speaking of instagram, facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Not necessarily watch forums or websites.

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Generally speaking, it is the greatest thing that has ever happened to watch collecting - however, I am including forums in this as forums are absolutely “social media.”

Never have so many been intrigued and involved in watch collecting or interested in watches. We learn through others experiences/teachings - whether it is learning speech as a baby from our parents, fashion from our school mates growing up, calculus from teachers, etc. We learn and become more involved with watches based on others experiences and information they share.

Social media, like anything, can have a negative side. But generally, it has propelled watch interest, collecting, and enthusiasm to its highest peak — amazing really, when talking about a device that uses antiquated technology and its primary purpose has been replaced by so many other, more useful items.


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