New Release OMEGA STEEL 321 vs DAYTONA STEEL

[GBD]

Aside from the fauxtina, I think the 321 is more appealing in almost every way. Far and away the most iconic chronograph of all time. Much better looking, too, imo.

[cda555]

Originally Posted by GBD

Aside from the fauxtina, I think the 321 is more appealing in almost every way. Far and away the most iconic chronograph of all time. Much better looking, too, imo.

This x 1000... Fauxtina is an automatic deal breaker for me.

[Trog]

Originally Posted by cda555

This x 1000... Fauxtina is an automatic deal breaker for me.

Then you'll be pleased to know it's not fauxtina.

[tenpercenter]

Really like the bracelet. Is it available on any of their other references?


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[djgallo]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Some folks don't get the world outside Rolex. Nothing against you.. but Omega released Snoopy Moonwatch for $7K USD and now it sells for $24K USD as used. So, they know the market for it.

A cartoon character on a watch....

Originally Posted by nachopc

Omega vs Rolex
BMW vs Porsche or Range Rover

It’s another league !


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Agree. Omega can’t compare/compete with Rolex....maybe they can compete with Tudor, Tag, Seiko.....but never Rolex!

[subtona]

Originally Posted by tenpercenter

Really like the bracelet. Is it available on any of their other references?


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Yes the bracelet is available on another model, the clasp I have seen is a butterfly type.
The butterfly type clasp may or may not be the same on the new release?

[037]

Originally Posted by subtona

Yes the bracelet is available on another model, the clasp I have seen is a butterfly type.
The butterfly type clasp may or may not be the same on the new release?

It's the same overall style clasp as on the 50th, no? Pics show what looks like a rectangular housing and same style deployant buttons.

I just hate that they didn't do this in hesalite. That's a huge letdown. Irrespective of price, it has a lot of misses in my book.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by 037

It's the same overall style clasp as on the 50th, no? Pics show what looks like a rectangular housing and same style deployant buttons.

I just hate that they didn't do this in hesalite. That's a huge letdown. Irrespective of price, it has a lot of misses in my book.

Yes I believe it is the same as the 50th but I am honestly not that familiar with all the different releases.

Regarding the hesalite, also agree it is desirable. The hesalite is worlds apart in beauty and there is zero question for me which I prefer... but I dig sapphire for its quality of durability and find some joy in not having to deal with a scratch across the plexi.

In the end, I would say you can bank on omega releasing a hesalite version of the 321 to follow.

[037]

Originally Posted by subtona

In the end, I would say you can bank on omega releasing a hesalite version of the 321 to follow.

If they do, count me in. I like my Speedies in plastic.

[dmhines]

$10,000 up charge for 321 movement and ceramic bezel is insane.

[Radbloke]

The 321 is pretty nice, but if I was going to spend (relative) megabucks on a Speedmaster, it would be the Racing Master Chronometer. Not quite the same look as a traditional Speedy, but a thoroughly modern take with a beast movement.

[Tavli3]

I love my vintage Speedy but have given up on Omega due to it's dumb lazy upper management. If Brand and value destruction were an Olympic event they would be gold medalists.
Compare that to the upper management of Rolex. 30 second first round KO.
My choice given they're the same price- Daytona even if I can't tell time with it.

Will be happy to get my Speedy some family companionship when Omega gets their sh^t together.

[Rori]

I'm not a fan of Chronos but I think Omega finally managed to make a good looking bracelet. Of course, it had to be a copy from Rolex's Oyster with a twist. Watch looks good, price is not.

[toucan]

Gus I agree with every one of your comments 100%.
Looking forward to the 321!

[NIHO]

the most underrated chrono from 2019, and my absolute favorite

[CPRWATCH]

Originally Posted by NIHO

the most underrated chrono from 2019, and my absolute favorite

That,s a beauty

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by NIHO

the most underrated chrono from 2019, and my absolute favorite

Zenith absolutely nailed this one, imho, and the ladder bracelet is fantastic.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by toucan

Gus I agree with every one of your comments 100%.
Looking forward to the 321!

[Partagas]

Much prefer the Speedmaster. I love Rolex, but for chronograph Speedy is what I would buy. And SS Daytona market prices make zero sense to me.

[Stevec14]

I’ve had both speedmasters and Daytona’s and at mrsp and if it was possible to get these at mrsp I’d pick the Daytona of the 2. It’s a slightly poor comparison given that for the vast majority a Daytona can only be picked up at a vast percentage over mrsp. I like the new 321 but when you start to go over £11k for a steel speedy it’s a harder sell, and one where you really need to appreciate the movement, history etc to see the value.

I have 2 speedies currently including the Apollo 11 50th. If you take the Apollo 11, it has the new movement, sapphire, one of the best bracelet/clasp combos I’ve ever worn, ceramic bezel and gold bezel, hands etc and a sapphire case back with the footprint underneath.

I struggle to think I’d spend another £4k on the 321, and it makes that one look pretty good value in my eyes. In fact if the Apollo 11 had 100m water resistance, it’s that one I’d take over the Daytona.

[Trog]

For those concerned about the value proposition of the Omega Speedmaster 321, I fixed it for you:

[shlomom]

Originally Posted by Trog

For those concerned about the value proposition of the Omega Speedmaster 321, I fixed it for you:

Missing the Rolex crown ;)

[Trog]

Originally Posted by shlomom

Missing the Rolex crown ;)

Above my pay grade.

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by Trog

For those concerned about the value proposition of the Omega Speedmaster 321, I fixed it for you:

you sir deserve a medal =)

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by Maxy

I would ignore the 321 and go with their Moonwatch with manual wind hesalite/sapphire glass which is phenomenal deal and best manual chronograph out there. The grey prices are around $3.5 USD. Just compare to that Daytona looks so overpriced chrono!

Street price: USD $3.5K vs $23.5K

Originally Posted by Trog

For those concerned about the value proposition of the Omega Speedmaster 321, I fixed it for you:

Same point as my post!

[enjoythemusic]

Epic pic! Loving the Version 4.1.6 of the black bezel and Watsamadder thin-lumed hands.

[amanbra]

I want both, I'll only be able to get one of them at RRP.

[Tenebris Equum]

I'm sold on the 321.

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[321Forever]

If I could get the white Daytona at MSRP I would, in part because it's hard to get, and in part because it's a good chrono and I never owned one. Everyone knows that you'll get your cash out of that watch if you buy it at MSRP. If I didn't have the cash, I'd sell something else to get in on one of these. I'd never buy one grey...not a proponent of that stream of thinking.

I have always gravitated more towards stealth watches so the c321 is ideal for me from that perspective. It's one of the watches where it's probably best to imagine that resale is going to be harder (at least slower) than a Daytona, so I think if I got one I'd assume that I'm keeping it for an extended period. There's no detail on it that bugs me...I really like how it turned out. If they offered a c321-powered 105.012 or 145.012 with Hesalite and a steel caseback instead, I don't know if I'd jump out and get it. It somehow feels too much like my regular c861 SpeedyPro.

[1kw]

The new 321 will be a handmade movement by one person as well as the rest of the watch. Where can you buy a handmade watch of this quality for less then the asking price. There is already a surplus of people paying 10 k for an original beat up speedy with the 321 and new one has a better bracelet, nicer finishing on the movement etc. This watch will restricted to something like a 1000 per year, the price is fair.