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Oryx · 2 June 2018, 05:38 PM

I had the opportunity to order the 5650G when it was first released but was put off by the number made (500 versus 300 for the 5550P) and the price differential between this and the 5164 (c90%). I also found the open face a bit gimmicky.

Fast forward 15 months and upon reflection the production number doesn’t seem to be too great if you assume tbe general increase in the number of watch collectors (growth of the middle class in EM countries, increased disposal income in the west and economic recovery in Japan etc).

The price differential also seems to be fair given that it is in precious metal and has the AR movement. For example the 5168G is c110% more expensive than the 5167.

More importantly I now love the dial layout and size, the open work, the colour basically everything about it.

Anyone else in the same boat?

May have to settle for the 5168G - this is supposed to be a limited edition (not limited production model) does anyone have any thoughts on how long this will be in production for?

ggencer · 2 June 2018, 05:41 PM

I do want it a lot... but as I know 500 pieces are not sold out yet. Of course they say so but if you are a good customer and if you order a 500k++ piece you still have the chance...

tyler1980 · 2 June 2018, 05:45 PM

i like the AR a lot.

However at this point if i was thinking alternative it would not be the 5168G it would be the 5968A. I would rather have that way way more than a 5168.

A3MED · 2 June 2018, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i like the AR a lot.

However at this point if i was thinking alternative it would not be the 5168G it would be the 5968A. I would rather have that way way more than a 5168.

Totally agree

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Oryx · 2 June 2018, 06:34 PM

for some reason the 5968A is not doing it for me at the moment and I have the same movement in my 5980.

Saying that - in a few weeks I'm sure I will be lusting after it with the same delayed response as I had with the 5650G

Oryx · 2 June 2018, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ggencer

I do want it a lot... but as I know 500 pieces are not sold out yet. Of course they say so but if you are a good customer and if you order a 500k++ piece you still have the chance...

Yes I have been trying - but keep getting the cold shoulder.

I will give it another shot..

ggencer · 2 June 2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oryx

Yes I have been trying - but keep getting the cold shoulder.

I will give it another shot..

I ordered a 5374p and I am pushing for a 5650g next to it :)

Russell996 · 2 June 2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ggencer

I ordered a 5374p and I am pushing for a 5650g next to it :)

That might work.

SW1 · 2 June 2018, 07:31 PM

Yes and i otfered the 5320 and 5650G at Baselworld. When the time came i had to say no the watch as they dangled another grail before me and i couldnt have both. I also wasnt sure i would wear it being a G...i dont have any regrets. Knowing its worth $150k i would have worn it less

HL65 · 2 June 2018, 08:47 PM

I was offered it from Basel by my AD and had to make a quick decision and passed. I didn't spend much time looking at the piece until afterwards as was caught off guard and a bit busy at the time of call. Oh well live and learn and certainly wasn't my first regret over a watch and won't be my last! At least I have the 5168G coming this year and do look forward to that one.

AK797 · 2 June 2018, 10:33 PM

If I was looking at this I would now be glad I passed with lasers focussed on the 5740.

incontrol · 2 June 2018, 11:35 PM

I am happy I asked my AD for the 5650 when announced. When they got back from Basel they told me they were not getting one. I was fortunate to get one when released. It is nerve wracking to wear now knowing what they go for on the open market.

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GB-man · 3 June 2018, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incontrol

I am happy I asked my AD for the 5650 when announced. When they got back from Basel they told me they were not getting one. I was fortunate to get one when released. It is nerve wracking to wear now knowing what they go for on the open market.

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The advantage of being a huge 5164 fan I assume

Sam Philip · 3 June 2018, 02:15 AM

I regret not ordering the 5650G and initially I was put off by the numbers made as well. I have handled the 5168G a few times and it is a very beautiful watch. I have seen grey dealers advertising it with saying it was a "limited edition" or "20th anniversary aquanaut" and I always thought they were saying it to justify the £10K premium and none of the ADs had told me this was a limited edition model.

AK797 · 3 June 2018, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incontrol

I am happy I asked my AD for the 5650 when announced. When they got back from Basel they told me they were not getting one. I was fortunate to get one when released. It is nerve wracking to wear now knowing what they go for on the open market.

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Amazing shot, Kevin, and that globe within a globe in blue is just spectacular!

RussW · 3 June 2018, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx

I had the opportunity to order the 5650G when it was first released but was put off by the number made (500 versus 300 for the 5550P) and the price differential between this and the 5164 (c90%). I also found the open face a bit gimmicky.

Fast forward 15 months and upon reflection the production number doesn’t seem to be too great if you assume tbe general increase in the number of watch collectors (growth of the middle class in EM countries, increased disposal income in the west and economic recovery in Japan etc).

The price differential also seems to be fair given that it is in precious metal and has the AR movement. For example the 5168G is c110% more expensive than the 5167.

More importantly I now love the dial layout and size, the open work, the colour basically everything about it.

Anyone else in the same boat?

May have to settle for the 5168G - this is supposed to be a limited edition (not limited production model) does anyone have any thoughts on how long this will be in production for?

Would you still regret it if these were not going for such high premiums?

Not suggesting for a second you would have flipped it, as I don’t believe you would, but it’s always nice to know your watch isn’t depreciating.

incontrol · 3 June 2018, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

The advantage of being a huge 5164 fan I assume

I have bought several Patek watches from them so I just strongly urged them to get me one every time I was there and yes, love the 5164 so a no brained for me.

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Originally Posted by AK797

Amazing shot, Kevin, and that globe within a globe in blue is just spectacular!

Thanks Neil. It is a tough watch to photo. The blue needs lots of light but then the open works has a lot of glare.

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SL BRABUS · 3 June 2018, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incontrol

I am happy I asked my AD for the 5650 when announced. When they got back from Basel they told me they were not getting one. I was fortunate to get one when released. It is nerve wracking to wear now knowing what they go for on the open market.

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Love it..

.!!!

Great choice Kevin.......

Oryx · 3 June 2018, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussW

Would you still regret it if these were not going for such high premiums?

Not suggesting for a second you would have flipped it, as I don’t believe you would, but it’s always nice to know your watch isn’t depreciating.

Fair question - I have actually been trying to get my AD to harass Rhône for many months but haven’t been able to make progress. It was my fault for only deciding I really wanted one until a few months after launch.

I have been collecting Patek for many years and whilst the appreciation is nice it isn’t the key driver for me.

I do have a 5168G on order (would have liked to have both) and ordered this before realising that it was selling for a premium in the secondary market.

Truth be told - it was actually seeing a picture of Kevin Hart wearing on (see celebwatchspotter on instagram https://instagram.com/p/Bi9IEPCBz06/ ) that reminded me about the mistake I had made.

incontrol · 3 June 2018, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

Love it..

.!!!

Great choice Kevin.......

Thanks Tony! I love it too!

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dom007 · 3 June 2018, 05:32 AM

No regrets!

Vaxe · 3 June 2018, 07:21 AM

Are these actually trading for $150k now? That makes the 5711 markup look like chump change.

jon_jon · 3 June 2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Are these actually trading for $150k now? That makes the 5711 markup look like chump change.

Patek only made 500 of the 5650G. Most ADs received one piece or if lucky 2 pieces and some ADs probably received none.

It is estimated that Patek produces 1000+ 5711/1A's annually and they have been produced for 10+ years. If you do the math, there are at least 10,000 5711/1A's out there. It's still not a huge number compared to the number of SS Subs or SS GMTs produced, but still not a small number by any means.

tyler1980 · 3 June 2018, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaxe

Are these actually trading for $150k now? That makes the 5711 markup look like chump change.

if it is, it kind of makes me glad i don't own one. I would have a hard time wearing it knowing its worth that much and im not a flipper so that kind of appreciation is not always a positive in my book especially if you have no intention of realizing the gain.

Just for laughs...https://www.chrono24.co.uk/patekphil...-id8421453.htm

mps354 · 3 June 2018, 10:54 PM

I regret not trying harder to get one.

lapince · 4 June 2018, 02:42 AM

My AD got two but there was no way one was going to a small player like me, both went to whales, looks amazing in real, way cooler than a 5168, had both side by side not long ago, and it is a stunner, quite disgusted when I see so many at greys selling for 2,5-3 times retail, if I had more money I would get one even with the premium, don’t think there will ever be again a LE Aquanaut and it is ultra cool

lapince · 4 June 2018, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Just for laughs...https://www.chrono24.co.uk/patekphil...-id8421453.htm

RussW · 4 June 2018, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx

Fair question - I have actually been trying to get my AD to harass Rhône for many months but haven’t been able to make progress. It was my fault for only deciding I really wanted one until a few months after launch.

I have been collecting Patek for many years and whilst the appreciation is nice it isn’t the key driver for me.

I do have a 5168G on order (would have liked to have both) and ordered this before realising that it was selling for a premium in the secondary market.

Truth be told - it was actually seeing a picture of Kevin Hart wearing on (see celebwatchspotter on instagram https://instagram.com/p/Bi9IEPCBz06/ ) that reminded me about the mistake I had made.

Good luck - hope your AD / Rhône come through for you.

codecow · 4 June 2018, 09:36 AM

I kind of wanted this one but having already bought 3 that year I abstained. Definitely a cool piece though.

Oryx · 11 June 2018, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussW

Good luck - hope your AD / Rhône come through for you.

Thanks Russ - I have received confirmation that the reference is sold out and so I wont be able to get one.

I wish I had acted quicker when it was launched. I wont make the same mistake next time.

2 June 2018, 05:38 PM	#1
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,877	5650G Advanced Research - who else regrets not ordering one I had the opportunity to order the 5650G when it was first released but was put off by the number made (500 versus 300 for the 5550P) and the price differential between this and the 5164 (c90%). I also found the open face a bit gimmicky. Fast forward 15 months and upon reflection the production number doesn’t seem to be too great if you assume tbe general increase in the number of watch collectors (growth of the middle class in EM countries, increased disposal income in the west and economic recovery in Japan etc). The price differential also seems to be fair given that it is in precious metal and has the AR movement. For example the 5168G is c110% more expensive than the 5167. More importantly I now love the dial layout and size, the open work, the colour basically everything about it. Anyone else in the same boat? May have to settle for the 5168G - this is supposed to be a limited edition (not limited production model) does anyone have any thoughts on how long this will be in production for?

2 June 2018, 05:45 PM	#3
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	i like the AR a lot. However at this point if i was thinking alternative it would not be the 5168G it would be the 5968A. I would rather have that way way more than a 5168. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

2 June 2018, 08:47 PM	#10
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,397	I was offered it from Basel by my AD and had to make a quick decision and passed. I didn't spend much time looking at the piece until afterwards as was caught off guard and a bit busy at the time of call. Oh well live and learn and certainly wasn't my first regret over a watch and won't be my last! At least I have the 5168G coming this year and do look forward to that one. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 June 2018, 11:35 PM	#12
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	I am happy I asked my AD for the 5650 when announced. When they got back from Basel they told me they were not getting one. I was fortunate to get one when released. It is nerve wracking to wear now knowing what they go for on the open market. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

2 June 2018, 05:41 PM	#2
ggencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: istanbul Posts: 94	I do want it a lot... but as I know 500 pieces are not sold out yet. Of course they say so but if you are a good customer and if you order a 500k++ piece you still have the chance...

2 June 2018, 06:34 PM	#5
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,877	for some reason the 5968A is not doing it for me at the moment and I have the same movement in my 5980. Saying that - in a few weeks I'm sure I will be lusting after it with the same delayed response as I had with the 5650G

2 June 2018, 07:31 PM	#9
SW1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: GB Posts: 296	Yes and i otfered the 5320 and 5650G at Baselworld. When the time came i had to say no the watch as they dangled another grail before me and i couldnt have both. I also wasnt sure i would wear it being a G...i dont have any regrets. Knowing its worth $150k i would have worn it less

2 June 2018, 10:33 PM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	If I was looking at this I would now be glad I passed with lasers focussed on the 5740.

3 June 2018, 02:15 AM	#14
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	I regret not ordering the 5650G and initially I was put off by the numbers made as well. I have handled the 5168G a few times and it is a very beautiful watch. I have seen grey dealers advertising it with saying it was a "limited edition" or "20th anniversary aquanaut" and I always thought they were saying it to justify the £10K premium and none of the ADs had told me this was a limited edition model.

3 June 2018, 07:21 AM	#22
Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Are these actually trading for $150k now? That makes the 5711 markup look like chump change.

3 June 2018, 10:54 PM	#25
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,972	I regret not trying harder to get one.

4 June 2018, 02:42 AM	#26
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	My AD got two but there was no way one was going to a small player like me, both went to whales, looks amazing in real, way cooler than a 5168, had both side by side not long ago, and it is a stunner, quite disgusted when I see so many at greys selling for 2,5-3 times retail, if I had more money I would get one even with the premium, don’t think there will ever be again a LE Aquanaut and it is ultra cool

4 June 2018, 09:36 AM	#29
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,784	I kind of wanted this one but having already bought 3 that year I abstained. Definitely a cool piece though.

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