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Old 17 November 2020, 06:43 PM   #1
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Icon17 Vintage Rolex in need of identification

Not sure this is the correct place to post this.

I came across a Rolex and would like to get some help to determine the age, model and authenticity.

The band looks to be from the 1970s and could be a service replacement, I'm not sure, I thought the watch would be late 1950 early 1960?

Please take a look and give me your thoughts.
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:31 PM   #2
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late 50s based on the OCC text, dial appears refinished though. Pop off the bracelet and get the model and SN. Definitely isn’t a 1603.
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:54 PM   #3
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checkerboard bezel 6605 1950's
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Old 17 November 2020, 11:41 PM   #4
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Bad redial and relume.
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Old 17 November 2020, 11:49 PM   #5
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Is this your watch, or are you thinking about buying it?
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Old 18 November 2020, 12:21 AM   #6
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Thank you for the input so far.
For clarification, it is not my watch, it is a watch I consider buying.
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Old 18 November 2020, 12:36 AM   #7
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Thank you for the input so far.
For clarification, it is not my watch, it is a watch I consider buying.
In that case, you should save your money for a better example IMO. The condition is not good.
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Old 18 November 2020, 06:37 AM   #8
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checkerboard bezel 6605 1950's
Yep, I'd say it's a 6605 in terrible condition. Interesting sure, but you'd have to do a fair amount of work to bring it back from... whatever condition it's in.
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Old 18 November 2020, 02:25 PM   #9
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I have often wondered why the 6605 values haven't kept up with the 1601s or even the 6305. The best I could come up with was that the dials on these really rarely come up in good condition. The 6605 is a nice watch and wears well, keeps excellent time when maintained, but good luck finding one with a decent dial.
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Old 18 November 2020, 10:23 PM   #10
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Somebody's redone that dial text with a sharpie and used old chewing gum for the marker lume.
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Old 18 November 2020, 11:08 PM   #11
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I'll try to stay away from it unless I can get it extremely cheap.
What would you estimate the value at, considering its a non working 50's 6605 with a terrible refurbished dial and with a later 70's band?
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Old 19 November 2020, 02:06 AM   #12
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I'll try to stay away from it unless I can get it extremely cheap.
What would you estimate the value at, considering its a non working 50's 6605 with a terrible refurbished dial and with a later 70's band?
depends on what's broken. as a parts watch I would try to get it around $1,000 as i'd imagine it's going to be a nightmare to get fixed and will likely be parted out
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Old 19 November 2020, 06:59 AM   #13
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I’ve seen three or four examples of my 18K 6605 (1065, circa 1957) for sale, but it has always been the dial that has let them down. The black dials seem to fare better, but a perfect (visually, rather than by dealer rating) cream or white dial is non-existent. Outrageous claims of “mint +1” are made, only to be disregarded by the viewer at first glance. Hardly surprising for a 60-year-old plus watch, but funny how this “ageing” is unacceptable on an early Date-Just, yet applauded on a Submariner (for instance)

Perhaps unfair to compare the two, but the 6605 is such a slim watch, the movement so “willing to run”, such a pleasure to wear rather than simply “to own”, that they do seem to have the worst of the “I’ve got one of these” arguments

I should perhaps explain at this point, that the Subs hold no fascination for me, least of all its “vintage value”. I am not a “collector”, except perhaps of “perceived beauty”. I have no desire to own the most Mil-Subs, never did like the Day/Dates, Daytonas et al – and I remain completely immune to the GMT’s. Each to their own

And yet the 6605/1065 is such a perfect match, that it perhaps deserves recognition for being what it is. A perfect match of dimensions and movement. That it is invariably let down by the dial condition is secondary, yet dials can be “re-done”, what’s the problem, it’s a Date-Just. Surely that works to its advantage

As I write this, the 6605 in my avatar is on my wrist, and every time I look at it, I smile. Sure, mine has a re-done dial (admittedly, to perfection), but it’s deeper than that. It’s the whole watch, not just the face. At that point, monetary value is pointless

Which begs the question – why are people rejecting the watch simply because of it face ?

Faces can be changed, especially on a 6605 ……
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Old 19 November 2020, 09:51 AM   #14
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Each to their own
This. You write really well.
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