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Pntblnk · 23 November 2011, 04:00 PM

Been struggling with this one myself but coming from an older Sub Date (circa 2000 A Serial #) and trying to sort out whether to trade by Sub for the GMT II C or just buy it as a second crown. For me the GMT II C is something different and speaks to me every time I see it. That darn green hand. :) Great problem to have but can't quite make up my mind.

Tudor66 · 23 November 2011, 04:15 PM

I struggled for two months with this same issue: GMTII vs Sub...See my previous posts for the details, but the truth is you will be happy with either watch.

I didn't need a GMT complication, and I went with this 1984 watch. The GMTII was a great second choice, I'm sure I would have been happy with it as well... Enjoy, whichever you choose...

Happytime · 27 November 2011, 04:06 PM

Do you travel a lot? GMT is a great watch for the different time zone. Standard GMT I think is a little harder to read. I have Sub C (Green Annversary with bigger luminous dots hour markers and like it a lot.)

Watchonisto · 27 November 2011, 05:05 PM

Go with the Sub

thecentennial · 27 November 2011, 05:07 PM

GMT IIc just shaves it for me, toolwatch, bit of bling, useful GMT function (looks good too).

Andad · 27 November 2011, 05:10 PM

Mike asked this question in April.
He has probably retired by now and is sitting on beach somewhere looking at his.....Explorer??

DDG · 28 November 2011, 01:58 AM

I don't spend any time in the ocean or under it, so the Sub is out. However, I do spend time in the sky above the ocean, crossing time zones, so it's the GMT for me.

btrue · 2 December 2011, 06:08 AM

The GMT IIC was the choice for me. I travel frequently and I use the second time zone quite a bit. The polished center links do scratch easily, and while the greater degree of clasp adjustment in the Sub would have been nice, the easy link and sizing options of the GMT IIC provide a fantastic fit! If you are not a diver, I can not see why you wouldn't want the extra time zone function. Even if you don't travel, the green GMT hand looks legit!

Mennald · 2 December 2011, 12:13 PM

I have both and prefer the sub. I think mostly because the sub doesnt have the polished center links.

Gerardus · 3 December 2011, 07:49 AM

1/sub
2/gmt
3/exii

oceantimewide · 14 December 2011, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kctt

Just be aware the GMT with PCL is very easily scratched, no matter how careful you think you are.

If this is going to be your only Rolex, I'd go for the Sub. Otherwise, either one as your first is just as good.

I have gotten myself a GMT IIc. Like to know what's PCL?

STEELINOX · 14 December 2011, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kierolex

I have gotten myself a GMT IIc. Like to know what's PCL?

"polished center link" - referring to bracelets centre links...

oceantimewide · 14 December 2011, 02:50 AM

Just have the answer from above.. Polished Centre Link.. numerous acronym in this forum. By the way, any threads to decode all these acronyms?

COBill · 14 December 2011, 10:23 PM

I thought the "I never dive" statement would answer it for me, too, but that blue Sub C just draws me in every time I see it.

Ageing Orphan · 15 December 2011, 02:46 AM

I had the GMT-C for about 18 months but recently sold it as it lost it's 'shine' to me. Great watch & very accurate running at +1sec per 24 hrs. The PCL scratch very easily and I only wore it evenings & weekends.

The money went to another project but I am now looking at buying a SS Sub-C next year sometime. There is a UK based one in the for sale section at the moment but I don't have the cash right now, typical of my luck!!

So I vote SS Ceramic sub-date as the better of the two watches. (unless you travel a lot or fly a 747!!!)

WARVET · 15 December 2011, 10:50 AM

I Have both, Go Sub twin lock crown is a PTA+

sycomsimon · 20 December 2011, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2011

Hi all, i'm on the verge of buying my first rolex and after initial research i've narrowed it down to two alternates, the GMT master II or Submariner Date, (both s/s). The prices down here in Aus are very similar and obviously very similar looking watches, but i'm torn as to which is the better watch.
Any advice or comments are welcome.
Many thanks in advance.

Hey am an Aussie too!!!!!!!!!

I´ve a beautiful Blue dial Sub with SS/18K with gorgeous fade out to ivory on the hour markers......

I´ve also got a Super President with too many diamonds and gold to get a close look for all that flash....

Then the last is the Panerai Scuderai FER000018 which is a nice watch however it spends most time in the box.

Best one to wear, is the sub.....diamonds a bit much and panerai a lot uncomfortable...

Go the Sub! GMT also for me in my OHO really don´t compare in looks to the sub.

Cheers mate,

Simon

ro1098s · 14 January 2012, 08:19 AM

Don't need the other functions, u can see the time in u iPhone, I have the sub green dial lub it

willski · 16 January 2012, 07:32 PM

I'm curious - what's peoples' definition of travel a lot?

dfelman · 17 January 2012, 07:08 AM

Tough choice -- I was considering both as well and bought the Sub-C -- the Sub bezel looks more classic, subtle, versatile and iconic to me, but just my opinion.

Matdaytona · 18 January 2012, 03:34 PM

1st would be a 16610

Vomtaylor · 18 January 2012, 05:52 PM

Im in this exact same boat right now too.. only diff is I have a Explorer II.. so I already have a gmt watch and a sport band.... The GMT II is nice because it a little more dress, but the sub is a sub, and brings that classic rolex look... and with only $100 price diff that dosent help at all..

waymaker · 21 January 2012, 08:09 PM

The GMT is infinitely valuable if you work n different time zones or travel alot...
that being said, I stopped taking the GMT surfing because it would get sand under the bezel... if you are going to do serious ocean sports then you cant go wrong with the sub.

1965rld · 24 January 2012, 10:11 AM

I've had both but settled on the sub for the everyday

blue lion · 11 February 2012, 01:20 PM

I initially decided on the GMT II just to be a bit different. But I wanted a blue face so the Sub won out. Either way enjoy.

eag310 · 11 February 2012, 04:01 PM

GMTII I like the bezel options before the redesign. After the redesign I still like the look of the GMT II Ceramic over the Sub Ceramic.
As for function dual time is more useful than diving function for me.

cwb · 12 February 2012, 03:43 AM

Like them both, prefer the GMT for business and the SUB for more casual dress.

Tudor66 · 13 February 2012, 11:00 AM

Eating my own words, GMT is now the new daily wear watch, and my favorite, I really like the 24 hour comp...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbieone

I struggled for two months with this same issue: GMTII vs Sub...See my previous posts for the details, but the truth is you will be happy with either watch.

I didn't need a GMT complication, and I went with this 1984 watch. The GMTII was a great second choice, I'm sure I would have been happy with it as well... Enjoy, whichever you choose...

Double Trouble · 13 February 2012, 11:23 AM

Both are awesome watches. I wear my GMT most days.

Super 80 · 19 February 2012, 06:48 AM

The GMT has a date. The Sub Date does not have a GMT hand. Are you with me? :-)

Jokes to the side, go to the AD and buy the one you like the most. You are the one to wear the watch.

27 November 2011, 05:10 PM	#96
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2 December 2011, 12:13 PM	#99
Mennald "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Illinois Watch: Daytona Posts: 319	I have both and prefer the sub. I think mostly because the sub doesnt have the polished center links. __________________ Mennald 116300, 116333, 116334, 116400V, 116520, 116610LV, 116610LN, 116710, 116718, 218239, PAM 90, 126600

3 December 2011, 07:49 AM	#100
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24 January 2012, 10:11 AM	#114
1965rld Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rodney Davis Location: georgia Watch: Submariner Posts: 16	Sub all the way I've had both but settled on the sub for the everyday

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23 November 2011, 04:00 PM	#91
Pntblnk "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 9	Been struggling with this one myself but coming from an older Sub Date (circa 2000 A Serial #) and trying to sort out whether to trade by Sub for the GMT II C or just buy it as a second crown. For me the GMT II C is something different and speaks to me every time I see it. That darn green hand. :) Great problem to have but can't quite make up my mind.

27 November 2011, 04:06 PM	#93
Happytime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: az Watch: Rolex Sub(green) Posts: 29	Do you travel a lot? GMT is a great watch for the different time zone. Standard GMT I think is a little harder to read. I have Sub C (Green Annversary with bigger luminous dots hour markers and like it a lot.)

27 November 2011, 05:05 PM	#94
Watchonisto Banned Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Alex Location: European Union Watch: AP, ROLEX, PP, PAM Posts: 4,344	Go with the Sub

27 November 2011, 05:07 PM	#95
thecentennial "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: UAE Watch: PAM312M Posts: 67	GMT IIc just shaves it for me, toolwatch, bit of bling, useful GMT function (looks good too).

28 November 2011, 01:58 AM	#97
DDG Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Dennis Garrett Location: Land of Oz Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 405	I don't spend any time in the ocean or under it, so the Sub is out. However, I do spend time in the sky above the ocean, crossing time zones, so it's the GMT for me.

2 December 2011, 06:08 AM	#98
btrue Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Bill Location: Indianapolis Watch: GMT IIC; PAM 005 Posts: 244	The GMT IIC was the choice for me. I travel frequently and I use the second time zone quite a bit. The polished center links do scratch easily, and while the greater degree of clasp adjustment in the Sub would have been nice, the easy link and sizing options of the GMT IIC provide a fantastic fit! If you are not a diver, I can not see why you wouldn't want the extra time zone function. Even if you don't travel, the green GMT hand looks legit!

14 December 2011, 02:50 AM	#103
oceantimewide "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex/VC/Patek Posts: 99	Just have the answer from above.. Polished Centre Link.. numerous acronym in this forum. By the way, any threads to decode all these acronyms?

14 December 2011, 10:23 PM	#104
COBill Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 141	I thought the "I never dive" statement would answer it for me, too, but that blue Sub C just draws me in every time I see it.

15 December 2011, 02:46 AM	#105
Ageing Orphan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.K The Midlands Posts: 237	I had the GMT-C for about 18 months but recently sold it as it lost it's 'shine' to me. Great watch & very accurate running at +1sec per 24 hrs. The PCL scratch very easily and I only wore it evenings & weekends. The money went to another project but I am now looking at buying a SS Sub-C next year sometime. There is a UK based one in the for sale section at the moment but I don't have the cash right now, typical of my luck!! So I vote SS Ceramic sub-date as the better of the two watches. (unless you travel a lot or fly a 747!!!)

15 December 2011, 10:50 AM	#106
WARVET "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Vincent Location: Louisiana Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 448	I Have both, Go Sub twin lock crown is a PTA+

14 January 2012, 08:19 AM	#108
ro1098s "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rodolfo Location: Puerto Vallarta Watch: submariner LV Posts: 67	Don't need the other functions, u can see the time in u iPhone, I have the sub green dial lub it

16 January 2012, 07:32 PM	#109
willski "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Will Location: New York Posts: 500	I'm curious - what's peoples' definition of travel a lot?

17 January 2012, 07:08 AM	#110
dfelman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: LA Posts: 2	Tough choice -- I was considering both as well and bought the Sub-C -- the Sub bezel looks more classic, subtle, versatile and iconic to me, but just my opinion.

18 January 2012, 03:34 PM	#111
Matdaytona "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mat Location: Somerset uk Watch: Rolex daytona Posts: 574	1st would be a 16610

18 January 2012, 05:52 PM	#112
Vomtaylor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southern CA Watch: Explorer II Posts: 56	Im in this exact same boat right now too.. only diff is I have a Explorer II.. so I already have a gmt watch and a sport band.... The GMT II is nice because it a little more dress, but the sub is a sub, and brings that classic rolex look... and with only $100 price diff that dosent help at all..

21 January 2012, 08:09 PM	#113
waymaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: above treeline Posts: 6	The GMT is infinitely valuable if you work n different time zones or travel alot... that being said, I stopped taking the GMT surfing because it would get sand under the bezel... if you are going to do serious ocean sports then you cant go wrong with the sub.

11 February 2012, 01:20 PM	#115
blue lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida State! Watch: It's just a watch. Posts: 1,463	I initially decided on the GMT II just to be a bit different. But I wanted a blue face so the Sub won out. Either way enjoy.

11 February 2012, 04:01 PM	#116
eag310 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hawthorne, CA Posts: 58	GMTII I like the bezel options before the redesign. After the redesign I still like the look of the GMT II Ceramic over the Sub Ceramic. As for function dual time is more useful than diving function for me.

12 February 2012, 03:43 AM	#117
cwb Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NC Posts: 17	Like them both, prefer the GMT for business and the SUB for more casual dress.

19 February 2012, 06:48 AM	#120
Super 80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 10	The GMT has a date. The Sub Date does not have a GMT hand. Are you with me? :-) Jokes to the side, go to the AD and buy the one you like the most. You are the one to wear the watch.

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