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Old 13 October 2017, 03:03 PM   #61
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Why is that? Rao's is no more difficult to score a reservation than some of the other names mentioned here.

Le Bernadin, Per Se, Jean Georges, Chefs Table at Brooklyn Fare, and even Marea are all booked 30+ days in advance for dinner unless you like eating at 5:30pm
As of 2 years ago, when I last lived in NY, it was impossible to get a table at Rao's. The tables were all spoken for. Even if you were an A-list celebrity or a head of state, it was still a no. You needed to find a friend with a table and have them invite you.

EMP was possible if you called as soon as reservations for the month opened.

Per Se was not that difficult, only requires some advance notice.

The other ones I have trouble remembering how the booking was made
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Old 13 October 2017, 06:51 PM   #62
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Old 14 October 2017, 12:02 AM   #63
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I was under the impression that Rao's was almost co-op like and you had to own a table? Regardless, I've been there once and I was just part of a group.

My understanding is it is absolutely impossible to get a reservation there, much much much much more than the others listed (where tbh I've never had much of an issue).
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Old 14 October 2017, 12:16 AM   #64
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Let's talk steakhouses now that the conversation is evolving a little.

I'll list my favorite dishes and locations they're served at:

Appetizer - Del Frisco's Grille; cheesesteak springrolls, delicious if you're in the mood to be a fatass, I usually am.

Best thick bacon - Quality Meats; their peanut butter and jalapeno jelly bacon is excellent.

Steak - Wolfgangs; while this can be argued ad nauseam, it's just my personal favorite.

Sides - Strip House; their goose fat potatoes are excellent (their creamed spinach is also noteworthy). Wolfgangs German Potatoes give them a run though as does the lobster mac n cheese from Del Frisco's DoubleEagle.

Dessert - Strip House; if you've got room, get the 24 layer cake. The strudel with homemade cream is great at Wolfgangs too (and I'm not even a strudel guy).

I've eaten at just about every steakhouse this city has to offer and have kinda landed on my favorites. I actually used to enjoy Porter House in the Time Warner building, but the quality of the meal has gone down, maybe their chef left or something.
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Old 14 October 2017, 12:24 AM   #65
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As of 2 years ago, when I last lived in NY, it was impossible to get a table at Rao's. The tables were all spoken for. Even if you were an A-list celebrity or a head of state, it was still a no. You needed to find a friend with a table and have them invite you.

EMP was possible if you called as soon as reservations for the month opened.

Per Se was not that difficult, only requires some advance notice.

The other ones I have trouble remembering how the booking was made
Advance notice or time is the only things standing in your way of a reservation, anywhere and everywhere. Rao's isn't a private club. You can't call Rao's to get a reservation because the answer will always be No

Walk in between lunch and dinner, ask the guy about a future date (30+ days) and grease his palm a bit and there you go... It's old school NY Italian


It's difficult to get a reservation because its a small restaurant, not because it's extraordinary. If you really want to try it, get on a plane to Vegas and get a table without much of a wait most weekdays or have your VIP host make a reservation.
Or you can run to your local grocery and buy a bottle of their sauce. It isn' t much better at the restaurant, seriously.
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Old 14 October 2017, 02:02 AM   #66
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Walk in between lunch and dinner, ask the guy about a future date (30+ days) and grease his palm a bit and there you go... It's old school NY Italian
This sounds like a lot of work to begin with and it isn't like they're conveniently located.
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Old 14 October 2017, 02:33 AM   #67
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This sounds like a lot of work to begin with and it isn't like they're conveniently located.
Not to mention that you have to "grease his palm" to even get considered for a reservation. I have never eaten there but I have heard that it isn't that great. They have created the allure by making it nearly impossible for the average Joe to get a reservation.
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Old 14 October 2017, 03:11 AM   #68
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This sounds like a lot of work to begin with and it isn't like they're conveniently located.
How hard is it to take an Uber to E114th? You said its impossible to get a reservation and then its too impractical. Well, if you want to go, thats how you do it. Its a myth that its impossible. But if I'm in that area, I'd rather go the the original Patsy's

I think Italian American food is awful but if you want the best, Rao's is the best. The Raos empire if based solely on bottled sauce and is what is financing its growth. Buy a bottle and it pretty much tastes the same without the headache of making the reservation.
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Old 14 October 2017, 03:24 AM   #69
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How hard is it to take an Uber to E114th? You said its impossible to get a reservation and then its too impractical. Well, if you want to go, thats how you do it. Its a myth that its impossible. But if I'm in that area, I'd rather go the the original Patsy's

I think Italian American food is awful but if you want the best, Rao's is the best. The Raos empire if based solely on bottled sauce and is what is financing its growth. Buy a bottle and it pretty much tastes the same without the headache of making the reservation.
To be fair, I said "my understanding is" - glad that has now been debunked.

Now I know... All I have to do is hop in a cab to Spanish Harlem in the afternoon, try to grease someone, and alas, hopefully I'll be enjoying my meal at some point during Q1 of 2018, simple!
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Iím not fond of their bottled sauce so I guess Iíll skip the restaurant lol
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Old 14 October 2017, 07:44 AM   #71
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Let's talk steakhouses now that the conversation is evolving a little.

I'll list my favorite dishes and locations they're served at:

Appetizer - Del Frisco's Grille; cheesesteak springrolls, delicious if you're in the mood to be a fatass, I usually am.

Best thick bacon - Quality Meats; their peanut butter and jalapeno jelly bacon is excellent.

Steak - Wolfgangs; while this can be argued ad nauseam, it's just my personal favorite.

Sides - Strip House; their goose fat potatoes are excellent (their creamed spinach is also noteworthy). Wolfgangs German Potatoes give them a run though as does the lobster mac n cheese from Del Frisco's DoubleEagle.

Dessert - Strip House; if you've got room, get the 24 layer cake. The strudel with homemade cream is great at Wolfgangs too (and I'm not even a strudel guy).

I've eaten at just about every steakhouse this city has to offer and have kinda landed on my favorites. I actually used to enjoy Porter House in the Time Warner building, but the quality of the meal has gone down, maybe their chef left or something.
I’m headed to NYC in less than a month and, for the 3rd year in a row, failed to get reservations at Peter Luger. I missed the first day to call and got shut out.
We’re going to Benjamin’s Steakhouse. Ever been?
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Let's talk steakhouses now that the conversation is evolving a little.

I'll list my favorite dishes and locations they're served at:

Appetizer - Del Frisco's Grille; cheesesteak springrolls, delicious if you're in the mood to be a fatass, I usually am.

Best thick bacon - Quality Meats; their peanut butter and jalapeno jelly bacon is excellent.

Steak - Wolfgangs; while this can be argued ad nauseam, it's just my personal favorite.

Sides - Strip House; their goose fat potatoes are excellent (their creamed spinach is also noteworthy). Wolfgangs German Potatoes give them a run though as does the lobster mac n cheese from Del Frisco's DoubleEagle.

Dessert - Strip House; if you've got room, get the 24 layer cake. The strudel with homemade cream is great at Wolfgangs too (and I'm not even a strudel guy).

I've eaten at just about every steakhouse this city has to offer and have kinda landed on my favorites. I actually used to enjoy Porter House in the Time Warner building, but the quality of the meal has gone down, maybe their chef left or something.
Funny you should say that. The last time my wife and I went to Porter House we left less than impressed. We had gone several times before and always enjoyed it but the last time we also thought the quality was off.
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Old 14 October 2017, 09:58 AM   #73
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Advance notice or time is the only things standing in your way of a reservation, anywhere and everywhere. Rao's isn't a private club. You can't call Rao's to get a reservation because the answer will always be No

Walk in between lunch and dinner, ask the guy about a future date (30+ days) and grease his palm a bit and there you go... It's old school NY Italian


It's difficult to get a reservation because its a small restaurant, not because it's extraordinary. If you really want to try it, get on a plane to Vegas and get a table without much of a wait most weekdays or have your VIP host make a reservation.
Or you can run to your local grocery and buy a bottle of their sauce. It isn' t much better at the restaurant, seriously.
My friend's dad has had a table for many years and that's the route I'd use. But frankly I've never had interest in visting.

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Iím headed to NYC in less than a month and, for the 3rd year in a row, failed to get reservations at Peter Luger. I missed the first day to call and got shut out.
Weíre going to Benjaminís Steakhouse. Ever been?


Peter Luger has a restaurant in Great Neck. It is about a 30 minute drive out on Long Island. There is always a debate about whether it is as good as the original but I have had great meals there as well. Much easier to get reservations and identical menu.


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Iím not fond of their bottled sauce so I guess Iíll skip the restaurant lol
Thats as simple as it can get.

My point was if someone wanted to get NY Italian American, you might as well do it at Rao's. IMO its just bad tomato sauce that resembles nothing Italian but distinctly American food at this point.
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Another great NY experience is Don Peppe on lefferts blvd. not far from JFK. Baked clams, linguini with white clam sauce is out of this world! Classic NYC old school place.
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Another great NY experience is Don Peppe on lefferts blvd. not far from JFK. Baked clams, linguini with white clam sauce is out of this world! Classic NYC old school place.
Is that the place they mention in entourage? It has to be haha
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Is that the place they mention in entourage? It has to be haha
could be, I havenít seen that episode.
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Regarding Rao's, I had a fantastic dinner a few years ago with my wife and a friend and her b/f. The table was a already 'owned' by the b/f 's client and that client comped the whole table, so yes, reservations there are impossible.
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Peter Luger has a restaurant in Great Neck. It is about a 30 minute drive out on Long Island. There is always a debate about whether it is as good as the original but I have had great meals there as well. Much easier to get reservations and identical menu.


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There is also the Peter Luger's right at the entrance to the Williamsburg Bridge on the Brooklyn side.... totally classic restaurant

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Another great NY experience is Don Peppe on lefferts blvd. not far from JFK. Baked clams, linguini with white clam sauce is out of this world! Classic NYC old school place.
Love it! Sounds like a great one to add to the list.
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