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thesharkfactor · 28 June 2020, 06:56 PM

That is a genuine 16613. It has an aftermarket insert and maybe an over polished bezel too.

The coffee coloured date wheel is correct for this watch.

Andad · 28 June 2020, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GGGMT

Maybe, but can’t see clasp, bracelet, case back, movement etc.

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Neither can l?

watchnut100 · 28 June 2020, 11:54 PM

As I said watch looked genuine to me apart from insert, which is clearly wrong.

GLADIATOR · 29 June 2020, 04:32 AM

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214270Explorer · 29 June 2020, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by keldridge00

Could you elaborate?
I could tell the Bezel was off but the other pictures of it looked legit. I'm seriously asking, what other things were way off?

Thank you again.

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GGGMT · 29 June 2020, 06:10 AM

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PRSWILL · 29 June 2020, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

It’s genuine apart from the insert

that's where I am. Someone put a crap bezel insert on a very nice watch. there's nothing wrong with this Sub for it's vintage except the bezel insert. Please check it out-

GLADIATOR · 29 June 2020, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PRSWILL

that's where I am. Someone put a crap bezel insert on a very nice watch. there's nothing wrong with this Sub for it's vintage except the bezel insert. Please check it out-

You know the movement is untouched? Bracelet end links and clasp all original? Nothing else aftermarket?
Anyone that adds that bezel and markets as all original - I suspect does not have a clue

No one can guarantee that complete watch (excluding bezel) is all 100% original from that photo
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214270Explorer · 29 June 2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

You know the movement is untouched? Bracelet end links and clasp all original? Nothing else aftermarket?
Anyone that adds that bezel and markets as all original - I suspect does not have a clue

No one can guarantee that complete watch (excluding bezel) is all 100% original from that photo
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Yep, exactly. It is so amazing that some people indicate with their questionable posts to have the abilities of 'psychics'.

GGGMT · 29 June 2020, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

You know the movement is untouched? Bracelet end links and clasp all original? Nothing else aftermarket?
Anyone that adds that bezel and markets as all original - I suspect does not have a clue

No one can guarantee that complete watch (excluding bezel) is all 100% original from that photo
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This is 100% correct. Whatever clown

put that bezel on this 16613 likely harvested other valid parts, leaving this thing a

. But, at very most, the maximum answer about genuineness much be “we have no idea based on one picture showing a

insert”. Any other answer is just reckless. Good luck OP sorting thru the wheat and chaff of this post.

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GGGMT · 29 June 2020, 11:25 AM

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Yep, exactly. It is so amazing that some people indicate with their questionable posts to have the abilities of 'psychics'.

Exactly. What

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GGGMT · 29 June 2020, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by keldridge00

Good morning everyone,
This is my first post on these forums, however I have read a lot and I thank you for all of your help.

I'm looking to purchase my first Sub and this one came up here locally.

I will be meeting them at my local jeweler to authenticate, but I wanted to get your feedback first. The Bezel on this watch seems off to me. All of the other Subs that I have looked at have an engraved bezel that you can feel. Does this being a two tone change that? Please see picture.

Also, if you could give me your thoughts on this watch. The band looks good with normal wear. I'm more concerned with the face.

Thank you in advance for your help.

You buy this junker yet?

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keldridge00 · 30 June 2020, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GGGMT

You buy this junker yet?

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Ha, no I did not.

Purchased a GMT Master ii from Timepiece Gentleman in Dallas. Picking it up today.

JohnnyM · 1 July 2020, 11:13 AM

Rule of thumb, walk with any red flags and you will stay safe

GGGMT · 1 July 2020, 11:36 AM

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Ha, no I did not.

Purchased a GMT Master ii from Timepiece Gentleman in Dallas. Picking it up today.

Good move!!

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29 June 2020, 04:32 AM	#34
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28 June 2020, 06:56 PM	#31
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,488	That is a genuine 16613. It has an aftermarket insert and maybe an over polished bezel too. The coffee coloured date wheel is correct for this watch.

28 June 2020, 11:54 PM	#33
watchnut100 SCUMBAG Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: uk Posts: 341	As I said watch looked genuine to me apart from insert, which is clearly wrong.

1 July 2020, 11:13 AM	#44
JohnnyM Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Merica Watch: All the good ones Posts: 173	Rule of thumb, walk with any red flags and you will stay safe

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