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Guanine71 · 4 September 2018, 07:41 AM

Dear Fellow Members:

I would much appreciate your views as to whether the watch pictured below is fake or real. It was taken to a Houston based jewelry shop (which sells Rolex) and they could not make heads or tails of it. The lucite pearl on the bezel is missing. For my own edification, would also appreciate some rationale as why its fake or real. Many thanks.

august1410 · 4 September 2018, 07:52 AM

Not real.

freefly · 4 September 2018, 07:55 AM

No good.

Guanine71 · 4 September 2018, 07:56 AM

august1410--basis for your conclusion? Many thanks.

august1410 · 4 September 2018, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

august1410--basis for your conclusion? Many thanks.

Forum rules dictate we do not go into specifics, but there are a number of things that stood out to me. If you are considering purchasing this, think twice. If you have purchased it, please seek out a return.

DahMan · 4 September 2018, 08:07 AM

Fake, it has the crown guard of a 6 digit, and the Bezel of a 5 digit, no maxi dial, the dealer was polite in simply declining to call it out as fake.its a bad fake at that, if he really questioned the authenticity he would of opened it up, to inspect the movement, he didn’t need to waste his time.

Guanine71 · 4 September 2018, 08:10 AM

I'm new to the site and have seen folks pick off reasons for why they conclude them to be fake. It also assists people seeking a return as it allows them to articulate the reasons for seeking a return. This was belongs to my uncle who am certain will try to return it. Simply telling someone "its fake" wont do the trick. Can you personal message me your conclusions?

freefly · 4 September 2018, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

I'm new to the site and have seen folks pick off reasons for why they conclude them to be fake. It also assists people seeking a return as it allows them to articulate the reasons for seeking a return. This was belongs to my uncle who am certain will try to return it. Simply telling someone "its fake" wont do the trick. Can you personal message me your conclusions?

It's garbage. That's really all anyone needs to know, especially a brand new member posting fakes on behalf of his "uncle". Just my $0.02 of course...

artschool · 4 September 2018, 08:24 AM

OP you just need to get your granddad to return it he doesn't need to explain to whomever he bought it from.

CorradoBrit · 4 September 2018, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

they could not make heads or tails of it.

LOLZ. That should tell you everything you need to know.

Guanine71 · 4 September 2018, 08:48 AM

LMAOF. You guys poking fun sound like a bunch of tools. Your only claim to fame is knowing your way around a Rolex. Like the saying goes "those that don't know watches know Rolex". I suspect you guys are a combination of $30K millionaires or middle age dip shits that worked all their lives to park a BMW in the driveway, flash a Rolex on your wrist while amassing a negative net worth like 99% of the population. Keep stroking your own egos fellas. I will just sit here and laugh.

J_1964 · 4 September 2018, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefly

it's garbage. That's really all anyone needs to know, especially a brand new member posting fakes on behalf of his "uncle". Just my $0.02 of course...

+1

J_1964 · 4 September 2018, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

LMAOF. You guys poking fun sound like a bunch of tools. Your only claim to fame is knowing your way around a Rolex. Like the saying goes "those that don't know watches know Rolex". I suspect you guys are a combination of $30K millionaires or middle age dip shits that worked all their lives to park a BMW in the driveway, flash a Rolex on your wrist while amassing a negative net worth like 99% of the population. Keep stroking your own egos fellas. I will just sit here and laugh.

What a wonderful way for a NEW MEMBER to ingratiate themselves to the TRF Community.

Rebel · 4 September 2018, 09:36 AM

Hummm.

DahMan · 4 September 2018, 09:55 AM

Fake...

usling15 · 4 September 2018, 10:03 AM

From OP 's original post this outcome is not terribly surprising.
" heads or tails" is all I needed to see.

august1410 · 4 September 2018, 10:07 AM

I received a PM from the OP asking for specifics. I politely told him that I would not go into specifics because counterfeiters could use that information to create watches to deceive buyers.

I'm still going to be a nice guy. I'm still on the forum and he is not.

Neener, neener, neener.

DahMan · 4 September 2018, 10:10 AM

The guy seemed a little intense, I believe a mandatory requirement should be to own a Rolex....

haven_seeker · 4 September 2018, 10:12 AM

That went south fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

LMAOF. You guys poking fun sound like a bunch of tools. Your only claim to fame is knowing your way around a Rolex. Like the saying goes "those that don't know watches know Rolex". I suspect you guys are a combination of $30K millionaires or middle age dip shits that worked all their lives to park a BMW in the driveway, flash a Rolex on your wrist while amassing a negative net worth like 99% of the population. Keep stroking your own egos fellas. I will just sit here and laugh.

CorradoBrit · 4 September 2018, 10:14 AM

Nice tirade. Giving fake Rolex owners a bad name. Good riddance.

Chewbacca · 4 September 2018, 10:20 AM

All fell apart after ‘Dear Fellow Members’.

Aren’t pharmacies open on Labor Day?

J_1964 · 4 September 2018, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by august1410

I received a PM from the OP asking for specifics. I politely told him that I would not go into specifics because counterfeiters could use that information to create watches to deceive buyers.

I'm still going to be a nice guy. I'm still on the forum and he is not.

Neener, neener, neener.

GLADIATOR · 4 September 2018, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by august1410

Not real.

Good Work

And yes a FAKE!

GLADIATOR · 4 September 2018, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

LMAOF. Like the saying goes "those that don't know watches know Rolex". I will just sit here and laugh.

I NEVER heard that saying! If it was true - Hans Wilsdorf surely would have "trademarked" it

Bye

Al1969 · 4 September 2018, 12:15 PM

OP.

Uhtred59 · 5 September 2018, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanine71

LMAOF. You guys poking fun sound like a bunch of tools. Your only claim to fame is knowing your way around a Rolex. Like the saying goes "those that don't know watches know Rolex". I suspect you guys are a combination of $30K millionaires or middle age dip shits that worked all their lives to park a BMW in the driveway, flash a Rolex on your wrist while amassing a negative net worth like 99% of the population. Keep stroking your own egos fellas. I will just sit here and laugh.

You have got to be on the knives edge of not being welcomed.

Bigblu10 · 5 September 2018, 04:07 AM

Wow!

Doc Savage · 5 September 2018, 04:17 AM

Wow, that went south quickly.

User_Error · 5 September 2018, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by august1410

...because counterfeiters could use that information to create watches to deceive buyers.

FALSE.

They already are and with absolutely zero help from a bunch of forum nerds.

Can we please put this to rest now?

freefly · 5 September 2018, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User_Error

FALSE.

They already are and with absolutely zero help from a bunch of forum nerds.

Can we please put this to rest now?

You are likely right in many cases.
However, the number/frequency of new members showing up and demanding detailed info on what the "tells" are on the fakes they post is simply too high to be a complete coincidence, IMO.

Further, many here have invested a lot of time/effort educating themselves and are under no obligation to simply give their knowledge away for free. If any of these one-hit-wonder posters would stick around and become more involved/engaged with the forum (and not throw temper tantrums like petulant children, as witnesses above), then I would personally be more inclined to share.
That's just me...

4 September 2018, 07:52 AM	#2
august1410 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Joe Location: North Carolina Watch: 1983 15003 Posts: 626	Not real. __________________ “The timid man yearns for full value and asks for a tenth. The bold man strikes for double value and compromises on par.” - Mark Twain

4 September 2018, 09:36 AM	#14
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,057	Hummm. __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

4 September 2018, 10:07 AM	#17
august1410 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Joe Location: North Carolina Watch: 1983 15003 Posts: 626	I received a PM from the OP asking for specifics. I politely told him that I would not go into specifics because counterfeiters could use that information to create watches to deceive buyers. I'm still going to be a nice guy. I'm still on the forum and he is not. Neener, neener, neener. __________________ “The timid man yearns for full value and asks for a tenth. The bold man strikes for double value and compromises on par.” - Mark Twain

4 September 2018, 12:15 PM	#25
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,607	OP. __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

5 September 2018, 04:17 AM	#28
Doc Savage 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Bill Location: Indiana Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 6,646	Wow, that went south quickly. __________________ “The real problem of humanity is we have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology.” -Edward O. Wilson

4 September 2018, 07:55 AM	#3
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	No good.

4 September 2018, 07:56 AM	#4
Guanine71 Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 4	august1410--basis for your conclusion? Many thanks.

4 September 2018, 08:07 AM	#6
DahMan Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 635	Fake, it has the crown guard of a 6 digit, and the Bezel of a 5 digit, no maxi dial, the dealer was polite in simply declining to call it out as fake.its a bad fake at that, if he really questioned the authenticity he would of opened it up, to inspect the movement, he didn’t need to waste his time.

4 September 2018, 08:10 AM	#7
Guanine71 Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 4	I'm new to the site and have seen folks pick off reasons for why they conclude them to be fake. It also assists people seeking a return as it allows them to articulate the reasons for seeking a return. This was belongs to my uncle who am certain will try to return it. Simply telling someone "its fake" wont do the trick. Can you personal message me your conclusions?

4 September 2018, 08:24 AM	#9
artschool "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: uk Posts: 1,214	OP you just need to get your granddad to return it he doesn't need to explain to whomever he bought it from.

4 September 2018, 08:48 AM	#11
Guanine71 Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 4	LMAOF. You guys poking fun sound like a bunch of tools. Your only claim to fame is knowing your way around a Rolex. Like the saying goes "those that don't know watches know Rolex". I suspect you guys are a combination of $30K millionaires or middle age dip shits that worked all their lives to park a BMW in the driveway, flash a Rolex on your wrist while amassing a negative net worth like 99% of the population. Keep stroking your own egos fellas. I will just sit here and laugh.

4 September 2018, 09:55 AM	#15
DahMan Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 635	Fake...

4 September 2018, 10:03 AM	#16
usling15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 253	From OP 's original post this outcome is not terribly surprising. " heads or tails" is all I needed to see.

4 September 2018, 10:10 AM	#18
DahMan Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 635	The guy seemed a little intense, I believe a mandatory requirement should be to own a Rolex....

4 September 2018, 10:14 AM	#20
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Nice tirade. Giving fake Rolex owners a bad name. Good riddance.

4 September 2018, 10:20 AM	#21
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	All fell apart after ‘Dear Fellow Members’. Aren’t pharmacies open on Labor Day?

5 September 2018, 04:07 AM	#27
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	Wow!

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