stolen Sub No Date brand new!! by Alvis Stengelis of Blackpool

[Mr. K]

Originally Posted by cenzor

Well, couriers will know whether they delivered an empty package or not?
Ask them to verify the weight of the box they accepted versus the one they delivered.
150-180g (weight of the watch itself) should be easy to pick on the different checkpoints (sorting centers, delivery depot, etc.).
Hope it turns all well for you!

this is very smart.

[Chris B]

Really awful .. things like this makes the WIS kingdom close ranks
Hope it all works out well for you

[Sal_UKSheffield]

This is quiet a bad case

But dont you think looking on linked in is a bit far fetched

There could be dozens of people with the same name?

[ChuckFinlay]

Doubt the UK Police will want to know these days, probably just refer you to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk

[smellychips]

what a scumbag! ... gives us honest UK residents a bad name' hope you get your money back or he is arrested with the watch

[Rootbeer]

Originally Posted by Rootbeer

Guy seems to be a student from a poor(er) country living in an area of relative social deprivation. And maybe he is millionaire sinophile just working for fun, but I would doubt the tips from waiting tables at Chan's Mandarin were sufficient to buy a Rolex.

He is Marketing Management Student at University of Central Lancashire. You could contact them as they may well have a dedicated Police Liaison Officer who can help.

His University has it's own Police Station:

https://www.facebook.com/UCLANPolice
https://twitter.com/uclanpolice

The university also offers courses in Policing so you may find you are in luck:

Lancashire Constabulary's Chief Constable Steve Finnigan commented: "We have a great partnership between the Constabulary and UCLan and we will look to develop our relationship further in the coming years. There is no doubt that UCLan's Foundation Degree in Policing will continue to play an integral role in the recruitment of our police officers."

Since 2001, in the region of 800 students have studied and graduated from a range of UCLan's policing programmes at Foundation Degree, Bachelors and Masters level. The School of Forensic and Investigative Sciences is now the largest HE provider of Forensic Science, Policing and related subjects in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZTf5AZQCdc

[hdrazor251]

Hope you get restitution and he gets what he deserves (in spades). Best of luck.

[Sal_UKSheffield]

Originally Posted by Rootbeer

His University has it's own Police Station:

https://www.facebook.com/UCLANPolice
https://twitter.com/uclanpolice

The university also offers courses in Policing so you may find you are in luck:

Lancashire Constabulary's Chief Constable Steve Finnigan commented: "We have a great partnership between the Constabulary and UCLan and we will look to develop our relationship further in the coming years. There is no doubt that UCLan's Foundation Degree in Policing will continue to play an integral role in the recruitment of our police officers."

Since 2001, in the region of 800 students have studied and graduated from a range of UCLan's policing programmes at Foundation Degree, Bachelors and Masters level. The School of Forensic and Investigative Sciences is now the largest HE provider of Forensic Science, Policing and related subjects in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZTf5AZQCdc

Is this deffo him?????

[Robbyman]

Originally Posted by ChuckFinlay

Doubt the UK Police will want to know these days, probably just refer you to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk

Loads of people with the same name? No chance in England with that name.

[Rootbeer]

Originally Posted by Sal_UKSheffield

Is this deffo him?????

That (UCLan) is his University. This is him:

https://twitter.com/iamalvis

[JDR888]

Originally Posted by Sal_UKSheffield

This is quiet a bad case

But dont you think looking on linked in is a bit far fetched

There could be dozens of people with the same name?

Yeah loads of people in Blackpool with this incredibly unique name............

[cop414]

So sorry to hear this, seems to be happening more and more often. Please keep us updated.

[997.2]

That sucks. Happy you took a video

[Lgear080]

Why did you take PayPal and did you insure?

[nmb]

So sorry to hear this,whilst I live the other side of the UK,I have been on a couple of nights out in Blackpool.Church street is probably one of the worst roads in Blackpool!!This area is seriously run down and the alcoholics and drug users in this area were the subject of a 'fly on the wall' documentary.
I really hope you get this sorted,I just find it rather 'fishy' why a buyer would source a watch such as this, from yourself with the imposed taxes bringing it into the UK,it would probably work out the same to buy one here.It just comes across as a 'scam'

Kind Regards

Nigel

[luvsub]

Hope it is getting sorted out.

[watchwatcher]

Sorry to hear this...hope this guys gets his just reward.

[Rameez-Q]

Originally Posted by James 45

Yup It happened to me.
I have been selling watches for for years now and I sold one to this guy
Alvis Stengelis of 304B Church street Blackpool Lancashire

And when he got the package that i sent and video taped (me packing the watch and affixing the postage etc.) he told pay pal it was empty.

THEIF!!

now it is under review with pay pal and I don't know if I will get my money!!

So here it is, my watch (because it is not paid for) is stolen and here is the
model and serial number in case he tries to sell it.

114060 2015 NEW IN BOX serial #394V12G5 from canada

He is in UK and will be trying to sell it there or maybe on line.

BEWARE

Hi

I have had this happen to me before when buying a watch, except I was sent an empty envelope.
I opened a paypal case and they found in his favour? I appealed made an action fraud report and the decision was reversed in my favour.

The weight of the parcel is irrelevant to paypal. They are idiots. I had this arguement with them many times during that claim. If you contact paypal tell them your history, show them your video etc then you'll be in with a chance. If I see any ad's on ebay or gumtree I will let you know.

Personally, the person who did this to me, I found their house address and faebook and was ready to pay them a visit had paypal not decided in my favour.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by DannyK

Personally, the person who did this to me, I found their house address and faebook and was ready to pay them a visit had paypal not decided in my favour.

You should have at least left a note on his door.

That usually gets a person's attention.

[tomcorkery]

Great idea. Have someone knock on his door.

[iancs]

Hope you get your money or watch back
Makes me ashamed this scumbag is from my country.
Best of luck.

[Rameez-Q]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

You should have at least left a note on his door.

That usually gets a person's attention.

I would have, had I not got a paypal refund. All worked out well in the end I guess.

Just thinking about it now, I visited blackpool just 2 months back for the first time but went during off season

[77T]

Good luck with the case. I'm guessing you did insure - at this stage, you do have a stolen item whether it was the buyer or someone within the shipping process. Time to file a claim.

[James 45]

Hi Guys thanks for your help!
I have some good ideas now with the picture of him.
I did look at his linken page and thought of the boss angle and friends or parents etc.

I cant say everything i have done to this point because I gave him a day to straighten things out because of things I had as evidence. And the police involved to this point.

And today I got an email about Pay pal needing more info from him after I sent in the video. I also showed them the other 5 new watches I sent out the same week. and all made it there as new in the box!!

I had several because of the low cnd dollar here right now, but Rolex is upping the price next week.

Keep you up dated and Thanks again


So we will see what he does now.

[cenzor]

Just two questions - did he claim directly with Paypal or did he contact you first?
And what is his claim - got an empy sealed box or opened (tampered with) box?

[TheTimeAndTraveller]

Goodluck in getting the watch back or the payment for it! Good thing you have evidence. Some people huh...

[venton]

The UK post office is not totally trustworthy. Many times I've had money stolen from birthday cards in certain parts of the country. If you had a corrupt sorter along the chain you might be doing the guy a disservice. You may yourself end up in hot water by spreading his name over the google results.
I hope insurance pays out for you. Let's face it, the guys not going to suddenly say, oh no, I can see a watch in the box.

[James 45]

He went right to pay pal
I just got a email from pay pal that said
a dispute was escalated! So I had to see what dispute?
Then I seen the claim of empty box.
Today pay pal sent an email stating they had requested more info from him.

I sent him an email with a chance to fix this before the police get involved etc...
He did not respond.

So know I am waiting to see what he will do.
I assured him I would not stop till I get what is mine.

[James 45]

An honest buyer would have called or responded to me first or at least answered my email.
He would be very angry if he was telling the truth LIKE I AM!!!!
So I am sure I have the right here to go after him.
Thanks for your input
I have thought a lot of how to go about this.

[James 45]

Originally Posted by cenzor

Just two questions - did he claim directly with Paypal or did he contact you first?
And what is his claim - got an empy sealed box or opened (tampered with) box?

This is the quote from pay pal

2/27/2015 12:31 GMT-05:00 - Buyer: I have received the parcel but the watch box was empty.

So it does not sound like the shipping box was tampered with
He is just trying to steal.