Advice regarding slow 124060

[Porschen]

Hi All,

I bought my 124060 in Sept of 2020. It has always run a bit slow, but within spec. It is now slower, about 3 secs per day.

Im considering taking it to the AD, and I’m wondering what I can expect - will they immediately send it out to a RSC (Dallas, New York), or would they typically test / try to regulate before sending out?

Part of me doesn’t want the watch opened up before service, but the other part of me thinks getting a potential issue addressed during the warranty period would be better than waiting for it to get worst and having to pay for an early service.

Last thing I’ll say is I’m not looking to start anything regarding the 32XX movement debate.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts / experiences.

[hutch300]

The could throw it on a timegrapher to see if something is amiss. Probably will end up at RSC. Only AD that would open it is one with a watchmaker and even still depends. I am not sure but I'd think warranty work goes back to RSC. That is an assumption.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Porschen

Hi All,

I bought my 124060 in Sept of 2020. It has always run a bit slow, but within spec. It is now slower, about 3 secs per day.

Im considering taking it to the AD, and I’m wondering what I can expect - will they immediately send it out to a RSC (Dallas, New York), or would they typically test / try to regulate before sending out?

Part of me doesn’t want the watch opened up before service, but the other part of me thinks getting a potential issue addressed during the warranty period would be better than waiting for it to get worst and having to pay for an early service.

Last thing I’ll say is I’m not looking to start anything regarding the 32XX movement debate.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts / experiences.

So you are worried about your watch loosing 3 seconds out of 86400 in a day, speaking for myself I would be praising my watch for being so accurate.Try resting watch in different positions overnight when off wrist might gain back those precious 3 seconds.

[Porschen]

Originally Posted by padi56

So you are worried about your watch loosing 3 seconds out of 86400 in a day.

I know that is your go-to response to folks on this forum who ask questions about accuracy. I’ll assume positive intent and take it as you trying to provide education, so thanks.

Rolex chooses the spec, which is +/- 2 seconds per day, so when the watch accuracy does not follow the spec, especially within the warranty period, it is reasonable to want to address it, which is what I’m considering doing.

[Porschen]

Originally Posted by hutch300

The could throw it on a timegrapher to see if something is amiss. Probably will end up at RSC. Only AD that would open it is one with a watchmaker and even still depends. I am not sure but I'd think warranty work goes back to RSC. That is an assumption.

Thanks, I appreciate the input.

[Rolex1982]

Originally Posted by Porschen

Hi All,

I bought my 124060 in Sept of 2020. It has always run a bit slow, but within spec. It is now slower, about 3 secs per day.

Im considering taking it to the AD, and I’m wondering what I can expect - will they immediately send it out to a RSC (Dallas, New York), or would they typically test / try to regulate before sending out?

Part of me doesn’t want the watch opened up before service, but the other part of me thinks getting a potential issue addressed during the warranty period would be better than waiting for it to get worst and having to pay for an early service.

Last thing I’ll say is I’m not looking to start anything regarding the 32XX movement debate.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts / experiences.

My advice is to wait till it gets worse. -3spd is not bad at all and sending out and opening the watch has it’s own risks. You can get some scratches on the watch or dust under the glass. All sorts of things can happen and I don’t say it will but i wouldn’t want to risk it for 1 second a day out of spec.

Just my 2 cents.

[huncho]

there's no way i would be sending a watch in to be opened for being -3 sec a day. like the post above already mentioned, there's so many things that even rsc has screwed up when opening watches, it's just not worth the headache of sending the watch in, waiting, then hoping everything comes back as it was. if it was -10 secs i would understand, but -3 is negligible

you also have to realize the cosc spec rolex comes up with is tested in a controlled environment and not always applicable to the real world. small deviations are totally normal

[Tim Plains]

I, too, would not send it off for only -3 spd. Just set the time 1 minute ahead once a month, go on with your life, and send it back if it gets really bad or right before the warranty period is over.

[Meyrin]

This came with my old 14060 from 1996, and the "dial up" works for me. Yes, I know many will laugh and say these suggestions from Rolex are completely outdated and won´t work with newer models, but it´s worth a try before somebody opens up the watch. Just don´t expect results after just one night, you need to try "dial up" over a good few nights!
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[Bxtek]

I would keep an eye on it and wait for it to get worse before sending it in. You still have some time left before the warranty expires anyway.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Porschen

I know that is your go-to response to folks on this forum who ask questions about accuracy. I’ll assume positive intent and take it as you trying to provide education, so thanks.

Rolex chooses the spec, which is +/- 2 seconds per day, so when the watch accuracy does not follow the spec, especially within the warranty period, it is reasonable to want to address it, which is what I’m considering doing.

No Rolex tests to a precision of -2+2 seconds in a controlled test, this dont mean it will be exactly the same every day for life. As wearing on the wrist there are many many variables.

Even test below would still pass this Rolex precision test.
Position Of Watch seconds Per Day
Dial Up +2
Dial Down -1
6 o’clock +3
9 o’clock -3
3 o’clock +5

[Endoscopist]

I have a 124060 from 2021 which was +2-3spd until about a year ago when it started to lose, now about -10 per day.

Struggling with the same dilemma of send it in or wait due to fear of adding bigger problems by rsc


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[brandrea]

I’m sure you’ve read the 32xx movement thread and that’s why you’re asking?

The responses you get here will be no different here. Some will say yes some will say don’t bother.

Ultimately you have to decide what’s best for you.

I’ve never been fussed by this whole topic, but can understand why others are.

I read somewhere in one of the numerous posts on this and I agree that for me it’s a bit like advertised fuel mileage. I understand it’s possible under certain specific conditions, but in reality I know I’m going to get less.

[The OG Beef]

Mine loses 3-4 seconds if worn for 24 hours. If worn during a normal day it’ll lose a couple seconds and gain those back if left dial up overnight. Timegrapher stats are bang on, it just so happens the way I wear it the negative results are dominant.


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[The OG Beef]

Originally Posted by Meyrin

This came with my old 14060 from 1996, and the "dial up" works for me. Yes, I know many will laugh and say these suggestions from Rolex are completely outdated and won´t work with newer models, but it´s worth a try before somebody opens up the watch. Just don´t expect results after just one night, you need to try "dial up" over a good few nights!
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That certificate absolutely applies to the 3230 in my 124060.


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[Porschen]

Originally Posted by Meyrin

This came with my old 14060 from 1996, and the "dial up" works for me. Yes, I know many will laugh and say these suggestions from Rolex are completely outdated and won´t work with newer models, but it´s worth a try before somebody opens up the watch. Just don´t expect results after just one night, you need to try "dial up" over a good few nights!
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I’ve seen this before! I store it dial up each night when I take it off, so I can only make it worse with the other positions lol!

[Porschen]

Originally Posted by Endoscopist

I have a 124060 from 2021 which was +2-3spd until about a year ago when it started to lose, now about -10 per day.

Struggling with the same dilemma of send it in or wait due to fear of adding bigger problems by rsc


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If mine was losing 10 sec/day, I would definitely take it in.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

The question fundamentally is which bugs you worse, the -3 SPD or the thought of having your watch opened, perhaps needlessly. What I would do is wait until you are closer to the end of your warranty period and evaluate then, perhaps including the regulation with the first service. It doesn’t appear there is any reason to do anything at this particular moment.

[racerx]

Originally Posted by Porschen

I’ve seen this before! I store it dial up each night when I take it off, so I can only make it worse with the other positions lol!

-2+2 is in a controlled situation. As others have said, it’s running quite well. Also take into consideration movement and temperature change when on wrist.
I wouldn’t sweat it.

[Porschen]

Originally Posted by padi56

No Rolex tests to a precision of -2+2 seconds in a controlled test, this dont mean it will be exactly the same every day for life. As wearing on the wrist there are many many variables.

Even test below would still pass this Rolex precision test.
Position Of Watch seconds Per Day
Dial Up +2
Dial Down -1
6 o’clock +3
9 o’clock -3
3 o’clock +5

Interesting, I thought the spec would apply to general wearing (assuming the controlled tests are designed to mimic typical daily movements of most people)?

I work an office job, but walk a decent amount during the day around my company’s campus.

I’m not too worried about the fact the watch is 3 seconds slow, but since it used to be 2 secs, I’m seeing a downward trend.

I’ll likely keep an eye on it and reevaluate again before the warranty is up.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Porschen

Interesting, I thought the spec would apply to general wearing (assuming the controlled tests are designed to mimic typical daily movements of most people)?

I work an office job, but walk a decent amount during the day around my company’s campus.

I’m not too worried about the fact the watch is 3 seconds slow, but since it used to be 2 secs, I’m seeing a downward trend.

I’ll likely keep an eye on it and reevaluate again before the warranty is up.

Regarding controlled environment when I bought my new car about 2 years ago they advertised I would get 45 miles to the gallon.Well these car mileage tests are done in a controlled environment,and myself have never achieved the mileage stated.Why because there are many variables when driving a car things like traffic how heavy foot on gas pedal.Did I take my car back over a few miles per gallon I did not get definitely not, and yes my car was expensive too just like Rolex are.Well its the same for watches most all comes down to owners wearing habits, why some worry today over a few seconds defeats me.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by padi56

why some worry today over a few seconds defeats me.

Users are paranoid, rightfully so, because of the reported 32** issues and the limited time they may have left on their warranty claim

[CarlOver]

Originally Posted by padi56

So you are worried about your watch loosing 3 seconds out of 86400 in a day, speaking for myself I would be praising my watch for being so accurate.Try resting watch in different positions overnight when off wrist might gain back those precious 3 seconds.

Originally Posted by Porschen

I know that is your go-to response to folks on this forum who ask questions about accuracy. I’ll assume positive intent and take it as you trying to provide education, so thanks.

Rolex chooses the spec, which is +/- 2 seconds per day, so when the watch accuracy does not follow the spec, especially within the warranty period, it is reasonable to want to address it, which is what I’m considering doing.

These comments are just typical. Sad, and not helpful.

The watch is out of spec and in warranty and losing time, so I would bring to AD and request that it is serviced by RSC. Should be no problem. If it wasn’t changing that would be one thing. If not serviced now and in a few years, that will be on your dime. I would take photos of the watch to document its condition just in case something gets damaged. Best to you!

[painexpert]

Originally Posted by Endoscopist

I have a 124060 from 2021 which was +2-3spd until about a year ago when it started to lose, now about -10 per day.

Struggling with the same dilemma of send it in or wait due to fear of adding bigger problems by rsc


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10 seconds would be enough for me to send it in.

[2loaded]

Set it 10min ahead and you’ll be early everywhere you go

[amphr1]

There is no need for service. Instead, experiment with how you use or store the watch. Some of my watch keeps perfect time if it stays on my wrist but runs slow if I leave it in my storage box overnight. Some runs slower if it's on wrist vs in watch box. It can even depend on where you store the box due to temperature. As long as it's consistent and not off by more than 5 seconds a day, you should consider the mechanical watch in good working order.

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[joli160]

1 sec/day out of spec is pretty good. AD probably tells you the same

[njlam]

I would send it in for service before the warranty ends, but no real rush.

If there is a 32xx problem, the more time you give them to find a solution, the better. I am for keeping the case openings to a minimum, no matter who is doing it.

[BraveBold]

Originally Posted by Porschen

I know that is your go-to response to folks on this forum who ask questions about accuracy. I’ll assume positive intent and take it as you trying to provide education, so thanks.

Rolex chooses the spec, which is +/- 2 seconds per day, so when the watch accuracy does not follow the spec, especially within the warranty period, it is reasonable to want to address it, which is what I’m considering doing.

Absolutely reasonable. Also, I’d personally find two things problematic more than the deviation. First, that it is slow rather than fast. Second, that it has worsened rather than held stable.

Those in combination absolutely would have many reasonable owners of these watches take advantage of their warranty. Especially users that rely on their watches for time keeping and not merely jewelry.