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11 June 2017, 02:25 PM | #31 |
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11 June 2017, 06:44 PM | #33 |
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11 June 2017, 09:40 PM | #34 |
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I did have one a few years ago, but hardly ever wore it so sold it.
Boy oh boy do I regret that decision :banged: Hence, why I have asked to be placed on the list.
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12 June 2017, 03:59 AM | #35 |
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Interesting but there seems to be a huge disparity between US and EU, in most of EU it is almost, sorry not almost, impossible to get a 5711 in a few months, in the US it seems much easier, even my Swiss AD from which I got my 3 PP told me that he probably wouldn't consider clients wanting either 5711 or 5712 IF they didn't buy another watch as he has a lot of demand from regular customers for these pieces, and that if I got a 5711 very quickly it was because I had gotten a 5167R as well. Can't believe a 5711 sold for 33.5k in Belgium, so there are people buying at these crazy prices. A grey dealer friend from whom I had bought all my Rolexes and a few others and who sold them after for me, told me that Patek is starting to see red at the profits on their watches, we all know that Patek can't stand anyone but them making profits on their watches, so wonder what measures they will take, up production of 5711/12 for more people to get them, or keep the papers for 3 years on those pieces, hard to say, I prefer they keep the papers, as having 2 of the hardest to get SS watches which take a big value should you decide to sell them, is clearly part of the appeal, doesn't mean I would love them less if second hand prices were to fall under retail, but it does add interest to ownership, at least for me...
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12 June 2017, 01:40 PM | #36 |
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Arnaud of course the vslue retention is half the appeal!!! Why else would you want a 4131???
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14 June 2017, 07:48 PM | #37 |
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15 June 2017, 02:08 AM | #38 |
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Went to the London Salon today with a friend. We were told they had closed the waiting lists for all Nautilus models except for 5711/1R
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15 June 2017, 02:13 AM | #39 |
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Interesting that the 5711 sold for $35K at an auction in HK.
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15 June 2017, 03:03 AM | #40 |
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I really like the 5711, but at current pricing it's a no go for me, just too expensive for what it is IMO. The Aquanaut is great deal, relatively and for $30k, you could pick up a nice pre-owned PP annual calendar. You could also, pick up a Royal Oak for a hefty discount to the 5711. Doesn't add up, but if I had money to burn, I'd consider. I'd prefer spending a little more for a nice chocolate dial RG Nautilus.
Pateks do great in resale value, so I doubt we'll see much downward pressure anytime soon. The Daytona C is a different story. |
15 June 2017, 03:51 AM | #41 |
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It's just smoke and mirrors artificially created , it will come back to normal
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15 June 2017, 06:45 AM | #43 |
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A Patek AD in Zurich told me last week, that the demand especially for the 5712 is as high as never before. Even for the said watch, waiting lists are closed in Switzerland
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US retail is already averaging 3k over Swiss retail.... Its all in the demand and supply, something Patek has figured |
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20 June 2017, 01:09 PM | #45 |
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It would take a number of Patek Philippe price increases - based on 10% each time, before the two prices came nearer and that is without the grey dealers marking time.
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don't complain you got yours But even if the 5711/12 are the highest ones on grey, even other SS Nautiluses are almost impossible to get from most AD's or Salons in Europe, except if you are already a serious client... |
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