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julianl · 8 June 2018, 07:31 AM

I just purchased a 1985 DJ 16030 and got it checked by my local Rolex AD. He noticed that the seller had the caseback only attached at around 80% (and not with the full pressure Rolex suggests) because if he attaches the caseback as it should the rotor is scraping the caseback. He is suggesting a full service for around 600€ which should fix the problem. Has anyone ever had a similiar problem? Could it be something worse? I still have the option to return the watch, but I really like the model and in general it is in good condition. The seller also offered me a 200€ discount. Looking forward to your feedback!

Tools · 8 June 2018, 08:36 AM

If the caseback is contacting the movement when it is properly screwed down; how is a service going to make the movement slimmer?

julianl · 8 June 2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

If the caseback is contacting the movement when it is properly screwed down; how is a service going to make the movement slimmer?

The AD said the reason for the scraping should be fixed by adjusting the rubin bearing or maybe changing the caseback (in case of it being not the original one).

MILGAUSS88 · 8 June 2018, 10:14 AM

I had one watch that the screw holding the rotor would not stay in. Even after being serviced. As a result the rotor would rub on the case.

NKflyer · 8 June 2018, 12:10 PM

It's almost surely a worn rotor axle which is causing the rotor to be loose and make contact with the caseback. The rotor axle is truly the Achilles heel of Rolex movements.

If the watch is otherwise running well and has good amplitude, it may be possible to just have the rotor axle replaced without getting a full service. But depending on how bad the rubbing is and how long it's been going on, it can introduce a lot of metallic dust which'll necessitate a service. If caught early, maybe not.

You really need to get someone skilled to take a look, not the present person who seems to be talking out his arse.

julianl · 8 June 2018, 10:42 PM

Thank you guys! Bringing it to a renowned watchmaker on Monday.

ROLLiWORKS · 9 June 2018, 03:24 AM

+1 axle for oscillating weight.

SearChart · 9 June 2018, 03:29 AM

Quite common if the axle is super worn. He's very reasonable with the price. I'd have quoted €650 service, €80 rotor (needs to be replaced after scraping because the rhodium flakes off), and most likely a €100-200 premium if a lot of stuff is worn.

8 June 2018, 07:31 AM	#1
julianl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Austria Posts: 3	Datejust 16030 Rotor Scraping Caseback I just purchased a 1985 DJ 16030 and got it checked by my local Rolex AD. He noticed that the seller had the caseback only attached at around 80% (and not with the full pressure Rolex suggests) because if he attaches the caseback as it should the rotor is scraping the caseback. He is suggesting a full service for around 600€ which should fix the problem. Has anyone ever had a similiar problem? Could it be something worse? I still have the option to return the watch, but I really like the model and in general it is in good condition. The seller also offered me a 200€ discount. Looking forward to your feedback!

8 June 2018, 08:36 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,037	If the caseback is contacting the movement when it is properly screwed down; how is a service going to make the movement slimmer? __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 June 2018, 10:14 AM	#4
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,940	I had one watch that the screw holding the rotor would not stay in. Even after being serviced. As a result the rotor would rub on the case.

8 June 2018, 12:10 PM	#5
NKflyer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Richard Location: Colorado Posts: 2,834	It's almost surely a worn rotor axle which is causing the rotor to be loose and make contact with the caseback. The rotor axle is truly the Achilles heel of Rolex movements. If the watch is otherwise running well and has good amplitude, it may be possible to just have the rotor axle replaced without getting a full service. But depending on how bad the rubbing is and how long it's been going on, it can introduce a lot of metallic dust which'll necessitate a service. If caught early, maybe not. You really need to get someone skilled to take a look, not the present person who seems to be talking out his arse.

8 June 2018, 10:42 PM	#6
julianl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Austria Posts: 3	Thank you guys! Bringing it to a renowned watchmaker on Monday.

9 June 2018, 03:24 AM	#7
ROLLiWORKS "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Michael H Posts: 964	+1 axle for oscillating weight.

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