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Luminor · 10 July 2008, 10:23 PM

I don't know if my next watch should be a Milgauss, GMT-Master IIc, Daytona or one of the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms.

Could you guys give me some input, even about the investment value of the Blancpain?

Skippy · 10 July 2008, 11:08 PM

For investment value you probably be best of buying a Daytona but I find the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms a very handsome watch with a great history and also it's own movement.; The investment value at the moment is probably not so good on the Blancpain but things like that can change(also for Rolex but it seems hard to imagine in the short run). All are great watches though so whitch one do you prefer because I would just go with that and if you keep it long enough(+20 years) they all will be pretty valuable I guess.

Steven79 · 10 July 2008, 11:34 PM

The Blancpain FF is one of my all time favorites. They are nearly impossible to buy in Houston. Loooong waiting lists.

I would take a FF over any regular SS Rolex sport watch.

karmatp · 10 July 2008, 11:48 PM

The Blancpain Fifty Fathoms is one of the best watches ever, I would buy that one if I was able to. I will never own one because I can't spend that kind of money on a watch, but to me, it's the ultimate watch. As far as investment, all watches are horrible investments, keep the money in the bank if that's what your looking for. Go buy one and post some pics. here so I can drool all over myself.

Brcmpbl · 11 July 2008, 12:51 AM

The new Fifty Fathoms Flyback Chrono is, to my eyes, the most amazing watch I have ever seen. Unreal. The Rolex SD (I have an M serial) was my favourite watch for years until I laid my eyes on the Fifty.

cbsmohai · 11 July 2008, 12:58 AM

Meh. I think they look nice, but for the $$$, give me a Sub or Dweller any day.

SPORTSFAN · 11 July 2008, 01:15 AM

Hi,

I don't get these "investment" posts.
Collectors control the prices of rare watches by bidding them up at auctions.Of course you have to remember that mostly they are watches that have been out of production for MANY years.
If you like a particular piece buy it and if it holds it's value it is a bonus

I think you can sell at a premium if there is a long waiting list but that would involve not wearing the piece .

Regards Mike.

frostie · 11 July 2008, 01:21 AM

I guess you are thinking of flipping it in the future so that you can buy a new watch

That's why you are taking into consideration the value of the watch as an investment

WatchTimes · 11 July 2008, 01:47 AM

The FF is an AMAZING watch.
Its a good price as its WG.
If they ever bring it out in SS I will get one.

That is what the Sub was based on.

Its a great watch and no watch should be bought as an investment
BUT the FF should hold its value pretty well like a Rolex.

There is one in the For Sale section here right now by a well known member.

Luminor · 11 July 2008, 02:40 AM

About the investment bit, if it's something i hate doing in life is losing money. Buying a watch for $1000 having only to have a market value of $500 is stupid to me. I like my watches to be bang for buck or at least not lost more than $300 in the eventuality that i have to sell.

Yogi the 50 fathoms is SS

GerardoG · 11 July 2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven79

The Blancpain FF is one of my all time favorites. They are nearly impossible to buy in Houston. Loooong waiting lists.

I would take a FF over any regular SS Rolex sport watch.

I was @ Cozumel yesterday (business), local AD had ALL the FF's in stock! Yup, duty free prices.

BigHat · 11 July 2008, 03:03 AM

[QUOTE=JYogi;664348]The FF is an AMAZING watch.
Its a good price as its WG.
If they ever bring it out in SS I will get one.
QUOTE]

It's SS or YG I believe.

http://www.watchbizz.com/current/coverstory.pdf

boa2 · 11 July 2008, 03:10 AM

[QUOTE=BigHat;664420]

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

The FF is an AMAZING watch.
Its a good price as its WG.
If they ever bring it out in SS I will get one.
QUOTE]

It's SS or YG I believe.

The chrono is available in RG, the tourbillon in WG or RG

I'd get the one you want most. I've seen the BP in several ADs, and know people who have paid less than retail. Therefore, I don't think you would lose on the watch. It certainly is a stunner!

BigHat · 11 July 2008, 03:16 AM

[QUOTE=boa2;664424]

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHat

The chrono is available in RG, the tourbillon in WG or RG

I'd get the one you want most. I've seen the BP in several ADs, and know people who have paid less than retail. Therefore, I don't think you would lose on the watch. It certainly is a stunner!

I consider the options associated with the turbo is be interesting yet completely meaningless. That's one pricey "dive watch."

You agree that the basic FF model is SS?

boa2 · 11 July 2008, 03:29 AM

[QUOTE=BigHat;664433]

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

I consider the options associated with the turbo is be interesting yet completely meaningless. That's one pricey "dive watch."

You agree that the basic FF model is SS?

No kidding, Matt. I did see a gent from Spain who posted his Tourbillon RG on Timezone. It's quite beautiful. The turbo has appeared these past few years in quite a few sport/dive watches: GP Laureato, Panerai, Bell & Ross, etc. Tough to wrap my mind around $100K+ sport watches on a rubber strap, but obviously some are more imaginative (and flush) than I am.

Yes, the basic FF model is SS. That happens to be my favorite of the three. A fellow watch lover sent me this photo of his:

BigHat · 11 July 2008, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

The FF is an AMAZING watch.
Its a good price as its WG.
If they ever bring it out in SS I will get one.

Yogi, yes the price IS for SS and not WG. Whip out that checkbook and be sure to share pics.

Jocke · 11 July 2008, 03:41 AM

If you go for the BP FF you will got a hell of a watch.

But count it will drop at the half price when you take it home unfortunately.

So as a investment (if it is) so will always Rolex be the best choice.

I have wait for some time and get a used BP FF.

Good luck.

Jocke

Luminor · 11 July 2008, 04:01 AM

Thanks for the heads up Jocke.

cbsmohai · 11 July 2008, 04:50 AM

As long as you take lots of pics of it, the we'll all be happy for you Jocke >>>>>

WatchTimes · 11 July 2008, 05:28 AM

For some reason I thought the one I was looking at was WG for about 12G
Hmmm, oh well.

I will wait a couple years and try to pick a used one up, I hope Jocke is right and I think he will be about the resale.

boa2 · 11 July 2008, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

For some reason I thought the one I was looking at was WG for about 12G
Hmmm, oh well.

I will wait a couple years and try to pick a used one up, I hope Jocke is right and I think he will be about the resale.

I've seen a couple of nearly new FFs come up for sale in the $8K range. Hmmm...

f16570 · 11 July 2008, 05:50 AM

That Fifty is stunning, sod the Daytona.

SPORTSFAN · 11 July 2008, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminor

About the investment bit, if it's something i hate doing in life is losing money. Buying a watch for $1000 having only to have a market value of $500 is stupid to me. I like my watches to be bang for buck or at least not lost more than $300 in the eventuality that i have to sell.

Yogi the 50 fathoms is SS

Hi,
But that is how it works.
AD buys watch for 2000 sells for 3000
you pay 3000 after 6 months you take it back....He offers you 1500 why???
Because he can still buy a new one for 2000 so why he pay you 2000 for a second hand one ?
So you keep it for 3 years and take it back then he offers you 2500. Why?
Because a new one now costs him 3000
As for market value you need a crystal ball for that one.

Regards Mike.

WatchTimes · 11 July 2008, 09:12 AM

Thanks
I was looking at the other ones and missed that.
Its a BEAUTIFUL watch, someday I hope to own one but
it will have to be second hand. I think the majority of my
watches now will be second hand or Grey market.
After buying my SD Grey with open papers and saving
a very nice amount of $ and avoiding state sales tax
I just can't see much of a reason to buy at an AD
BUT I can't disagree with those who only buy from an
AD.

Letsgodiving · 11 July 2008, 09:23 AM

Anyone know the retail price of the SS FF and the SS chrono version?

tubojunk · 11 July 2008, 04:22 PM

buy used and dont worry about the the money you lose when you walk out the ADs door if your wanting best bang for your buck

leopardprey · 14 July 2008, 04:43 AM

SS Fifty Fathoms, Retail is $12,200 US. Usually no discount from ADs or the Botique as is a hot seller right now and long waiting list.

I believe the Chrono version is somewhere around $14,000.

The Rose Gold Tourbillion versions, if you have to ask what the price is, you do not have enough money to buy! LOL LOL

boa2 · 14 July 2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey

SS Fifty Fathoms, Retail is $12,200 US. Usually no discount from ADs or the Botique as is a hot seller right now and long waiting list.

4 months ago, two people I knew paid $8800 for theirs. That may have since changed, I'm not sure.

I've seen both the chronometer and chronograph in several ADs. In fact, one friend was offered a discount on the chronograph at Tourneau, of all places.

leopardprey · 14 July 2008, 11:33 PM

Before the price increase in April, the retail price was $11,100. $8800 sounds like the price for the 2007 Fifty Fathoms models with the older movement that had the 100 hour our reserve, and not the newer models with the Cal. 1315 movement, 125 hr power reserve and anti-magnetic case.

boa2 · 15 July 2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Before the price increase in April, the retail price was $11,100. $8800 sounds like the price for the 2007 Fifty Fathoms models with the older movement that had the 100 hour our reserve, and not the newer models with the Cal. 1315 movement, 125 hr power reserve and anti-magnetic case.

He paid $8800 for the latest model, not the older one. It was discounted.

10 July 2008, 10:23 PM	#1
Luminor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Claude Location: Europe Watch: Rolex Deepsea Sea- Posts: 391	Blancpain I don't know if my next watch should be a Milgauss, GMT-Master IIc, Daytona or one of the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Could you guys give me some input, even about the investment value of the Blancpain?

11 July 2008, 01:21 AM	#8
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	I guess you are thinking of flipping it in the future so that you can buy a new watch That's why you are taking into consideration the value of the watch as an investment __________________ GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN

11 July 2008, 01:47 AM	#9
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,515	The FF is an AMAZING watch. Its a good price as its WG. If they ever bring it out in SS I will get one. That is what the Sub was based on. Its a great watch and no watch should be bought as an investment BUT the FF should hold its value pretty well like a Rolex. There is one in the For Sale section here right now by a well known member. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

11 July 2008, 03:41 AM	#17
Jocke 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,519	If you go for the BP FF you will got a hell of a watch. But count it will drop at the half price when you take it home unfortunately. So as a investment (if it is) so will always Rolex be the best choice. I have wait for some time and get a used BP FF. Good luck. Jocke __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

11 July 2008, 05:28 AM	#20
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,515	For some reason I thought the one I was looking at was WG for about 12G Hmmm, oh well. I will wait a couple years and try to pick a used one up, I hope Jocke is right and I think he will be about the resale. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

10 July 2008, 11:08 PM	#2
Skippy Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Holland Posts: 283	For investment value you probably be best of buying a Daytona but I find the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms a very handsome watch with a great history and also it's own movement.; The investment value at the moment is probably not so good on the Blancpain but things like that can change(also for Rolex but it seems hard to imagine in the short run). All are great watches though so whitch one do you prefer because I would just go with that and if you keep it long enough(+20 years) they all will be pretty valuable I guess.

10 July 2008, 11:34 PM	#3
Steven79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Steven Location: Houston Watch: Sub Posts: 1,175	The Blancpain FF is one of my all time favorites. They are nearly impossible to buy in Houston. Loooong waiting lists. I would take a FF over any regular SS Rolex sport watch.

10 July 2008, 11:48 PM	#4
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	The Blancpain Fifty Fathoms is one of the best watches ever, I would buy that one if I was able to. I will never own one because I can't spend that kind of money on a watch, but to me, it's the ultimate watch. As far as investment, all watches are horrible investments, keep the money in the bank if that's what your looking for. Go buy one and post some pics. here so I can drool all over myself.

11 July 2008, 12:51 AM	#5
Brcmpbl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Calgary, Canada Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 164	The new Fifty Fathoms Flyback Chrono is, to my eyes, the most amazing watch I have ever seen. Unreal. The Rolex SD (I have an M serial) was my favourite watch for years until I laid my eyes on the Fifty.

11 July 2008, 12:58 AM	#6
cbsmohai "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Travis Location: Central Texas Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 284	Meh. I think they look nice, but for the $$$, give me a Sub or Dweller any day.

11 July 2008, 01:15 AM	#7
SPORTSFAN "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: NW England Posts: 791	Hi, I don't get these "investment" posts. Collectors control the prices of rare watches by bidding them up at auctions.Of course you have to remember that mostly they are watches that have been out of production for MANY years. If you like a particular piece buy it and if it holds it's value it is a bonus I think you can sell at a premium if there is a long waiting list but that would involve not wearing the piece . Regards Mike.

11 July 2008, 02:40 AM	#10
Luminor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Claude Location: Europe Watch: Rolex Deepsea Sea- Posts: 391	About the investment bit, if it's something i hate doing in life is losing money. Buying a watch for $1000 having only to have a market value of $500 is stupid to me. I like my watches to be bang for buck or at least not lost more than $300 in the eventuality that i have to sell. Yogi the 50 fathoms is SS

11 July 2008, 03:03 AM	#12
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	[QUOTE=JYogi;664348]The FF is an AMAZING watch. Its a good price as its WG. If they ever bring it out in SS I will get one. QUOTE] It's SS or YG I believe. http://www.watchbizz.com/current/coverstory.pdf

11 July 2008, 04:01 AM	#18
Luminor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Claude Location: Europe Watch: Rolex Deepsea Sea- Posts: 391	Thanks for the heads up Jocke.

11 July 2008, 04:50 AM	#19
cbsmohai "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Travis Location: Central Texas Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 284	As long as you take lots of pics of it, the we'll all be happy for you Jocke >>>>>

11 July 2008, 05:50 AM	#22
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	That Fifty is stunning, sod the Daytona. __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

11 July 2008, 09:12 AM	#24
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,515	Thanks I was looking at the other ones and missed that. Its a BEAUTIFUL watch, someday I hope to own one but it will have to be second hand. I think the majority of my watches now will be second hand or Grey market. After buying my SD Grey with open papers and saving a very nice amount of $ and avoiding state sales tax I just can't see much of a reason to buy at an AD BUT I can't disagree with those who only buy from an AD. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

11 July 2008, 09:23 AM	#25
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,310	Anyone know the retail price of the SS FF and the SS chrono version? __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

11 July 2008, 04:22 PM	#26
tubojunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 507	buy used and dont worry about the the money you lose when you walk out the ADs door if your wanting best bang for your buck __________________ Audemars 15707ce Lange 191.032 Patek 5990/1a Rolex 126610LN

14 July 2008, 04:43 AM	#27
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	SS Fifty Fathoms, Retail is $12,200 US. Usually no discount from ADs or the Botique as is a hot seller right now and long waiting list. I believe the Chrono version is somewhere around $14,000. The Rose Gold Tourbillion versions, if you have to ask what the price is, you do not have enough money to buy! LOL LOL

14 July 2008, 11:33 PM	#29
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Before the price increase in April, the retail price was $11,100. $8800 sounds like the price for the 2007 Fifty Fathoms models with the older movement that had the 100 hour our reserve, and not the newer models with the Cal. 1315 movement, 125 hr power reserve and anti-magnetic case.

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