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Old 23 December 2019, 11:18 PM   #1
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Carbotech owners—have some questions!

Happy Holidays Everyone!!

Anyone own a carbotech? I’m mulling the idea of the Pam 1616. I am however concerned about the durability and feel of this material.

Can anybody expand on this? I am afraid that this might have the feel of a toy on the wrist? Can it take getting knocked around as a daily wearer?

Thank you all and enjoy this time with your families!


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Old 23 December 2019, 11:57 PM   #2
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I’m interested to know as well. I’ve been admiring the PAM960. Curious though if it feels too light or small. Has anyone worn one or tried it on? Thoughts ?

It’s weird they have a 42mm and 47mm. I think a 44mm in this would be perfect.


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Old 24 December 2019, 09:10 AM   #3
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PM TRF member “Mystro” (or search for his threads and posts): he is a HUGE carbotech fan.
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Old 24 December 2019, 01:34 PM   #4
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durability is great. better than any metal, closer to ceramic

the light weight is one of the best features.. but thats subjective
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Old 24 December 2019, 01:36 PM   #5
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durability is great. better than any metal, closer to ceramic

the light weight is one of the best features.. but thats subjective
Interesting insights, I need to try one on when I next visit the Panerai AD here in Singapore.
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Old 26 December 2019, 12:32 PM   #6
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Carbotech is a hate it or love it kinda material

It’s light and feel plasticky so I don’t like it but some people love it (like Mystro)
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Old 26 December 2019, 05:44 PM   #7
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My 616 is the most used watch in my collection for over a year now, I'm not a desk diver only, I'm on construction sites also and have a 3 year old child, the watch looks like new.
Material is better and stronger than the AP FC eg, I've had the AP FC Diver and this one wasn't as tough than the Panerai Carbotech is...
And it's super comfortable also...

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Old 27 December 2019, 03:56 AM   #8
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I love my 1616. 6 months of having it in the rotation and no signs of wear at all. It’s big, but it’s so light it doesn’t feel big.
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Old 30 December 2019, 06:49 AM   #9
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It is THE toughest watch I have ever owned. It’s stronger than titanium yet scratch resistant as ceramic and not brittle. It doesn’t conduct heat/cold on the arm. Carbotech is THE strongest and most durable material I know of in the watch industry. I had mine on several dives this summer and hit it on the side of a bridge pier 12’ under water. Any other watch like a Sub I would have surfaced to access the scuffs and possible dents/ceramic bezel cracking. Not one mark on my Pam 661 Carbotech. Absolutely pristine. Carbotech is in its own league. As far as feel,....If your are familiar with exotic cars or aircrafts, it has that exact light weight carbon fiber compared to its metal counterpart feel. It’s light weight is why it’s so special. Mine is 105 grams on the wrist. Carbon fiber will never be confused with SS.



As far as how the watch wears?.......”Its like wearing a flat black LaFerrari on the wrist”. Very exotic looking, ultra light weight with a very high performance movement under the hood. It’s my most comfortable watch I own. Dial legibility in any/low light is also best in class. I wear mine a lot.

The new Panerai p.9010 movement is outstanding and has shown to have a 80 hour power reserve. The amplitude Panerai achieves with the double barrel mainspring is the highest I have ever tested on the scope. Ceramic rotor bearings, it’s got it all if you are a movement snob. Another unique quality of this watch is the way it transmits it’s movement’s metallic ticking sound through the Carbotech case. It’s almost amplified and wonderful sounding like what a well constructed acoustic guitar body does.
Between the looks and performance, it’s a rockstar and stands out from the crowd.



Lume is outstanding.




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Old 30 December 2019, 07:24 AM   #10
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Wow, that is an awesome review and quite an endorsement.

Thanks for the write-up.

I, too, love my carbotech cased PAM's. :D
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Old 30 December 2019, 07:30 AM   #11
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Have a 292J .Ceramic,like carbotech ..no scratches,zilch,zero .
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Old 30 December 2019, 08:15 AM   #12
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FYI: I wanted to add, even the crown and cam-lock crown guard is made of Carbotech. That is amazing engineering and shows how strong Panerai has tested their proprietary Carbotech material.





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Old 30 December 2019, 05:47 PM   #13
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That´s real enthusiasm...nice writing!
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Old 31 December 2019, 12:02 PM   #14
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Loving mine

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Old 1 January 2020, 12:06 AM   #15
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Love the Carbotech, need to see one in person. Could be my first Panerai
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Old 1 January 2020, 12:20 AM   #16
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scratch resistant, light weight, unique pattern of carbon fibers, turning of the bezel much smoother than the 682. i own the pam 1616, highly recommend it.
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Old 1 January 2020, 12:53 AM   #17
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light weight
very...light weight and you should like it.
I tried a carbotech last week and its really a nice watch but for me just too light. I love to feel my watches on the wrist.
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Old 1 January 2020, 08:39 AM   #18
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Saw a nice stainless steel carbotech the other day
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Old 11 January 2020, 04:31 PM   #19
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Old 12 January 2020, 06:02 AM   #20
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I looked at one at an AD not long ago. Very cool but I can’t pull of a 47mm watch. Looks like a hockey puck on my wrist! If it was 44 or smaller, would have likely bought one.
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Old 14 January 2020, 02:35 AM   #21
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I looked at one at an AD not long ago. Very cool but I can’t pull of a 47mm watch. Looks like a hockey puck on my wrist! If it was 44 or smaller, would have likely bought one.
There are 42mm models to be had.
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Old 14 January 2020, 05:11 AM   #22
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Old 14 January 2020, 06:00 AM   #23
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There are 42mm models to be had.
Didn't know that till you mentioned it. See there is a 960 offered but on a quick search, no one shows any for sale so must be pretty rare. Not even a boutique or limited release so a little surprised no one seems to have them.
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Old 14 January 2020, 06:11 AM   #24
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Didn't know that till you mentioned it. See there is a 960 offered but on a quick search, no one shows any for sale so must be pretty rare. Not even a boutique or limited release so a little surprised no one seems to have them.
Check out instagram for some nice wrist shots.

I'm hoping we see a 42 or 44mm version of the 979 released this year. That would be a sweet piece.

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Old 14 January 2020, 07:20 AM   #25
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Old 15 January 2020, 05:08 AM   #26
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Old 19 January 2020, 11:26 PM   #27
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I just purchased a 945 from the boutique in Doha and got a chance to see the 47mm 1616 (I think?) while I was in there. Fantastic watch! A bit big for me, so I asked about the 960. They did not have one for me to look at. I must admit I was surprised at the price on both, and the 960 specifically. I mean, 17,800 for the 47 seems a little high to me, but it is a big watch and has an in house movement, so okay, maybe a little overpriced? But 17,400 for the 42MM with an ETA movement?

I don't know. I am really enjoying Panerai right now, and would love to add a 960 one day, but the pricing does put me off a bit. I get that it is some new awesome process of development, but still strikes me as a bit of a money grab from Richemont.

Am I reading this wrong?
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Old 24 January 2020, 03:05 PM   #28
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When will the new models for 2020 be announced????

I don't think Panerai will ever make a new model wire lug Radiomir again
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Old 24 January 2020, 04:09 PM   #29
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When will the new models for 2020 be announced????

I don't think Panerai will ever make a new model wire lug Radiomir again
Hi Steve. Ask and you shall receive: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=715213

Both are beauties.
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Old 24 January 2020, 09:44 PM   #30
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Tried on both these models a couple of weeks ago. Fabulous editions. Had the 992 on hold for a couple of days. But now aiming for the 931 instead (hopefully )

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