Panerai newbe questions

[crazymcmichael]

Was looking into Panerai since yesterday and i must say that i start to like them quite a lot..
Now i see a lot of things like:
Do buy at a AD only as the replica market seems huge
question 1: is buying via a trusted seller(grey dealer) as safe as buying a Rolex?
Question 2: i see everybody talking about base models, true DNA.. Which are the Pams to go for so that you have not to much difficulties to get rid of it when you want to?
question 3: How do these 45 or 47 mm watches look on a 6.5 inch wrist? Is it comparable in terms of big wear as a Explorer 2 216570, much larger?
Question 4: How is it with reliability of this watches, service costs? Ultra expensive, normal? As easy to let it service anywhere as let say a Rolex etc??

And sorry for these n00bish questions, for some reason the brand never got my attention besides i known it and not it gets really interessing to me...

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Was looking into Panerai since yesterday and i must say that i start to like them quite a lot..

Now i see a lot of things like:

Do buy at a AD only as the replica market seems huge

question 1: is buying via a trusted seller(grey dealer) as safe as buying a Rolex ? Same

Question 2: i see everybody talking about base models, true DNA.. Which are the Pams to go for so that you have not to much difficulties to get rid of it when you want to? Panerai watches are fun, but when you try to sell you realize that it’s coolness has no correlation with how terribly their retention price goes down, so buy what you like and enjoy

question 3: How do these 45 or 47 mm watches look on a 6.5 inch wrist? Is it comparable in terms of big wear as a Explorer 2 216570, much larger? Is a different fit for sure, you have to try them yourself. My wrist is about the same and fit just fine

Question 4: How is it with reliability of this watches, service costs? Ultra expensive, normal? As easy to let it service anywhere as let say a Rolex etc??

I think their reliability is good, of all the Pams i had own , I had an issue just with one , it was related to the winding mechanism, was fixed under warranty

And sorry for these n00bish questions, for some reason the brand never got my attention besides i known it and not it gets really interessing to me...

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[synequano]

My wrist is around 6,5-6,75 inch and I do wear everything from 40mm radiomir to 47mm luminor 1950





These two are 47mm

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

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Thank you super

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by synequano

My wrist is around 6,5-6,75 inch and I do wear everything from 40mm radiomir to 47mm luminor 1950





These two are 47mm

Looks good!

[crazymcmichael]

So basicly you can be assure that the grey dealer has identified the fake Panerai?

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

So basicly you can be assure that the grey dealer has identified the fake Panerai?

Yes if it's a well known. There is a lot of those sellers at this site and if you find a watch you want ask for pics and let us take a look at them.
But if you not feel safe, just pass. Is it too good to be true, it's not.

About the size so will a 47mm wear smaller. Don't you have a chance to try one somewhere?

BTW. Where are you located?

[brandrea]

One of the best moves I made was buying this Panerai.

They wear very well for their size IMO. They are also fairly lightweight for their size.

I have a 7" flatwrist and this 47mm fits perfectly IMO.

Thank you to the enablers here ... you know who you are



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[Jocke]

Originally Posted by brandrea

One of the best moves I made was buying this Panerai.

They wear very well for their size IMO. They are also fairly lightweight for their size.

I have a 7" flatwrist and this 47mm fits perfectly IMO.

Thank you to the enablers here ... you know who you are



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That one is so cool Brian.

[crazymcmichael]

Im located in the Netherlands, might visit a AD soon to look if i really like them as much as i think. Photo of Brandrea shows exact what i like in this brand looks amazingly classy and though on the same time) When i am after something on the GM will certainly place pics!

[rootbeer7]

Before buying anything go and try them. I was surprised what worked and what didn’t. I couldn’t find a Radiomir to fit comfortably, but have had 2 44mm Radiomir. I still have the 233, 1950 case, exhibition back, dome crystal and a true classic.

[crazymcmichael]

I like the PAM00424 and i see them listed between 4700 euro and about 6500 euro. But with a service you might expect on a 2015 piece or older i guess it better to buy new..
All like this reference? Thoughts ?

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Im located in the Netherlands, might visit a AD soon to look if i really like them as much as i think. Photo of Brandrea shows exact what i like in this brand looks amazingly classy and though on the same time) When i am after something on the GM will certainly place pics!

I believe chrono24 is a good option when you inside EU. All dealers use trusted checkout and chrono24 keep your money until you accept the watch.
There is a lot of honest Panerai dealer's there ou can deal with.

[JorgeCCW]

This is my 47mm Panerai




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[Trog]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

This is my 47mm Panerai




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That's a very handsome watch!

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

This is my 47mm Panerai




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Nice! How big is the wrist ?

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by Trog

That's a very handsome watch!

Thanks mate , appreciate your comment

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Nice! How big is the wrist ?

6.7 or so





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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Jocke

That one is so cool Brian.

Thank you brother

[mfer]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Was looking into Panerai since yesterday and i must say that i start to like them quite a lot..
Now i see a lot of things like:
Do buy at a AD only as the replica market seems huge
question 1: is buying via a trusted seller(grey dealer) as safe as buying a Rolex?
Question 2: i see everybody talking about base models, true DNA.. Which are the Pams to go for so that you have not to much difficulties to get rid of it when you want to?
question 3: How do these 45 or 47 mm watches look on a 6.5 inch wrist? Is it comparable in terms of big wear as a Explorer 2 216570, much larger?
Question 4: How is it with reliability of this watches, service costs? Ultra expensive, normal? As easy to let it service anywhere as let say a Rolex etc??

And sorry for these n00bish questions, for some reason the brand never got my attention besides i known it and not it gets really interessing to me...

1. Greys are fine. Bruce (watches24seven, davidsw , etc)
2. Base is ace as they say and I have to agree. Panerai DNA
3. Varies greatly. 47mm 232 wears small, 45mm 243 wears massive as example. 45mm rads wear very small unless thick. 45mm 1940 rads wear bigger. To me, nothing wears better than a 249/232 47mm even on my 6.5” wrist.
4. Panerai service runs $600 for basics. Xtals are to much imho but you have no choice. Nothing like AP or Patek.

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by mfer

1. Greys are fine. Bruce (watches24seven, davidsw , etc)
2. Base is ace as they say and I have to agree. Panerai DNA
3. Varies greatly. 47mm 232 wears small, 45mm 243 wears massive as example. 45mm rads wear very small unless thick. 45mm 1940 rads wear bigger. To me, nothing wears better than a 249/232 47mm even on my 6.5” wrist.
4. Panerai service runs $600 for basics. Xtals are to much imho but you have no choice. Nothing like AP or Patek.

Xtals are new Crystals ?
I am eyeballing a 424.. I quite like the simplicity and classic looks of that reference. I am buying inside Europe btw..

[mfer]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Xtals are new Crystals ?
I am eyeballing a 424.. I quite like the simplicity and classic looks of that reference. I am buying inside Europe btw..

Yeah, I replaced the crystal on one of mine during service and they wanted like 400-500 for the crystal. I thought it was high.

[nick c]

I’d start with 000. Just my 5c


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[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by nick c

I’d start with 000. Just my 5c


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Nick, what are the benefits of this compared to others? And what is the ref of this watch? Nice watch but i hate rubber straps

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by nick c

I’d start with 000. Just my 5c


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That’s a beauty brother

[nick c]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Nick, what are the benefits of this compared to others? And what is the ref of this watch? Nice watch but i hate rubber straps

The best thing for you is, IMG_5022.jpgto go and try as much as possible panerai, to see which fit best on your wrist.


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[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by nick c

The best thing for you is, Attachment 1062523to go and try as much as possible panerai, to see which fit best on your wrist.


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First two are beauties!! Your collection?

[nick c]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

First two are beauties!! Your collection?

[crazymcmichael]

Are there models in the current line-up you should really stay away from?
I just saw that the WR of all models is gone from 300 to 100 meters :/ what in **** ??? ???

[synequano]

Personally I’d stay away from all models in current line up lol,I’d go with older reference as they’re more reliable and less budget-y (if there’s such word)

[Cryten]

Originally Posted by synequano

Personally I’d stay away from all models in current line up lol,I’d go with older reference as they’re more reliable and less budget-y (if there’s such word)

I don't agree. Some of the current line up are still true Panerai, 372 and 422 for example.

I'd avoid the Due line like the plague. Those are just more Richemont disasters and should never be mentioned in polite company.

Budgety is a quite apt discription of the direction Richemont are taking some of the Paneral line, making buying one even more difficult with out some significant research.